Occupy Wall Street Fail

Ron in Regina

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It's a weird dance between the Charter, & the Bylaws, & common sense
or a lack there of on both sides of the issue. I think this would be much
more effective if the protesters has a united front with more organization,
in the "winning the hearts & minds" department of those that're going to
work everyday, and paying their rents & mortgages & utility bills and so
on and so forth. Five weeks in, the optics have soured without a clear
message as to what the protest is really about in a downtown park.

I've looked, and the only list of demands (a Canadian version, and not
one copied from an American pamphlet) comes out'a Vancouver, and
has about 60 demands...and most of them are truly nutty. Maybe if the
protestors all headed to Ottawa and camped out on the Hill....I don't know.
 

petros

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If they simply grabbed an issue and run with it they'd be useful.

The obviously most critical problem in Regina right now is affordable housing.

Even if they were working full time at minimum wage, they'd still have to live two to a bachelor suite to get by.

There hasn't been an apartment block built since the 80's when the city cranked up taxes so high it isn't feasible to build them.
 

Ron in Regina

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If they simply grabbed an issue and run with it they'd be useful.

The obviously most critical problem in Regina right now is affordable housing.

Even if they were working fulltime at minimum wage, they'd still have to live two to a bachelor suite to get by.


There! Bang! An issue to get behind that others (working, etc...) can get behind.
The generic rambling list isn't cutting it.
 

mentalfloss

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Hopefully they can get into the network and post the upcoming budget for us to finally see.

Leave Occupy Toronto alone, hackers warn

An international hacking group has threatened the City of Toronto with a cyber attack if it interferes with the Occupy Toronto protest downtown.

A YouTube video from the group called Anonymous says it will launch an already planned “operation” if it sees any interference in the Toronto protest.

Mayor Rob Ford has said he wants the protesters to “move on” from their campsite at St. James Park, where nearby businesses have complained about the disruption.

His words seem to have provoked Anonymous, which originally promised to stay away from Occupy Canada protests as long as authorities didn’t try to stop them.

Occupiers praised as brave


“The brave citizens of Toronto are peaceful and well mannered occupiers, and we will not let the city, or the mayor that uses vulgar language in public, get involved,” a voice on the Anonymous video says.

Anonymous, with its free-speech activist hackers, became known through its efforts in support of the whistleblower website WikiLeaks and its founder, Julian Assange. Anonymous's hackers claim to have disrupted a variety of websites, including sites for credit cards, law enforcement and San Francisco area rapid transit.

The Anonymous video aimed at Toronto turned up just as some local protesters made a failed attempt to shift their tents to Queen’s Park. They set up tents outside the Ontario legislature on Saturday but later took them down, reportedly after being told they were breaking the law.

That smaller group of protesters said they moved to Queen's Park to bring their cause closer to provincial politicians. Protester John Erg said Occupy Toronto had become so popular, it had outgrown its space at St. James Park.

But the new campsite was short-lived after the protesters were told the land was provincial property and they couldn't camp on it, police said. Queen’s Park was quiet on Sunday.

The majority of protesters had stayed at St. James Park but said they planned to discuss whether they should relocate.

Leave Occupy Toronto alone, hackers warn - Toronto - CBC News
 

Locutus

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Meet the Ad Men Behind Occupy Wall Street



On July 13, the Canadian anti-consumerist magazine Adbusters posted what they called “Memo One” on their site under the newly minted hash tag #OCCUPYWALLSTREET: “Are you ready for a Tahrir moment? / On Sept 17th flood into lower Manhattan, set up tents, kitchens, peaceful barricades and occupy Wall Street.” Shockingly, just over two months later, this is nearly exactly what happened.

Among the many reasons that made the feat surprising—the pitfalls of collective action, widespread anomie on the left, etc.—was the fact that Adbusters has been trying to pull this off, or something like it, for over 20 years.

The magazine, founded on the premise that the advertising techniques of advanced capitalized societies could be employed to subvert the structures of capitalism itself, has long made a habit of churning out pithy rallying cries and calls for days of protest. But unlike all its other attempts, this one hit home; striking a raw nerve that ran throughout an American populace, it provided a unifying expression for a deep sense of frustration amidst a jobless recovery from the great recession.

And while the movement has since grown much larger than Adbusters, it still bears the unique and quirky imprint of the Canadian zine—one that hints at both the strength and limitations of the Occupy Wall Street movement itself.

Adbusters was founded in Vancouver in 1989 by an impish Estonian, former ad man cum activist named Kalle Lasn. Lasn had spent his twenties working for an advertising firm in Japan before leaving the industry in disgust over its moral apathy. In an interview he gave in 2002, Lasn explained, “it was an ethically neutral business, where people didn’t really give a damn whether they were selling cigarettes, or alcohol, or Pepsi-Cola. For them it was all one big interesting game, and the social repercussions were somehow irrelevant.” Done with advertising, Lasn moved to Vancouver in the 1970s to make environmental documentaries, but soon got swept up in a heated confrontation with the logging industry that had begun brewing in the province.





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Thomas Stackpole: Meet The Ad Men Behind Occupy Wall Street | The New Republic







Live feed of standoff between Portland PD and Occupy Portland protestors


Live Video - Koinlocal6.com
 

Ron in Regina

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Hopefully they can get into the network and post the upcoming budget for us to finally see.

Leave Occupy Toronto alone, hackers warn

An international hacking group has threatened the City of Toronto with....


Ugh.....OK. The people elect the mayor, and this group threatens the city of Toronto
(& in turn the majority of the people whom elected the current mayor, etc....), and
this really pisses me off, to be perfectly honest.

Those that cheer this group of hackers on maybe don't see things the way I do, but
I see them as threatening the entire city of Toronto (including the residents who're
involved in the protest) and its residents.

Who the Hell do these people think they are to threaten the entire City of Toronto
with a "Do this our way, legal or not, or else" statement? Isn't this terrorism?
 

Ron in Regina

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It depends. Council could be hacked on a personal level to dig up dirt or ???


Could'a/Would'a/Should'a....is that the Threat, or a general blaket Threat against
the city in a "Our way or else!" sort of manner? If I was a Torontonian, I'd be pissed!

I've listened to the YouTube video threat by this group, & they don't specify.
It's at the LINK below:

From: Hackers threaten to 'remove' Toronto from Internet if it evicts Occupy protesters

TORONTO — The notorious hacker group Anonymous is threatening to
have the City of Toronto “removed from the Internet” if they move
forward on plans to evict the Occupy Toronto camp.

Are they specifying it's just City Hall....or the City of Toronto? What would the damage
be (to the city, to the nation) if these folks Threaten and then influence the decisions
of Gov't without consequences, setting a precedent for others to follow. Wouldn't this
be something to step on (those that threaten, not the protest movement) ASAP with
a big boot?


 

Cliffy

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Nobody seems to notice that all the focus in the media is on the protestors and the stuff going on there. It is another case of the left hand slapping your face while the right hand picks your pocket. The real villains here are being ignored, which is exactly what they want - the crooks who broke the world economy by stealing all the money and giving themselves multimillion dollar bonuses while laughing their balls off at our stupidity.

The bail out money was extortion. They engineered a crash and then threatened to pull the plug if they were not bailed out. They were never in danger of losing anything while they engineered the loses to everyone else. All this focus on the protestors is a classic divide and conquer tactic and y'all fell for it hook, lie and sinker.
 

Locutus

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Occupoopers raise stink in Calgary



CALGARY - The protest ongoing at Olympic Plaza is more about occupooping than occupying, if tickets being issued by police and bylaw officers are any indication.
Bylaw head Bill Bruce said officers have handed out around two-dozen tickets so far during the month-long occupation, including some for urinating and defecating in public.


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Occupoopers raise stink in Calgary | Canada | News | Toronto Sun








Occupy Harvard: Nation's most exclusive tent city



The Occupy Wall Street movement, which has spread from one tent city to another across this country, has finally arrived at Harvard University.
And because this is Harvard, the encampment has turned into the most exclusive Occupy protest in the nation. Students have pitched tents in the university's Harvard Yard, but you can't join the protest unless you possess a Harvard ID card.
The occupiers had no intention of turning Occupy Harvard into a clubby experience. Harvard's administration, however, decided to post police at the entrances with instructions to keep all outsiders away.
One protestor, who is a junior, lamented upon the heightened security to a reporter for the Harvard Crimson: "I think it's absurd. Do we really need eight guards per gate?"
In a statement released Friday by Occupy Harvard, the group complained that the lockdown has "reinforced the institutional exclusivity and elitism that Occupy Harvard seeks to change."


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Occupy Harvard: Nation's most exclusive tent city - CBS News








Justifying OWS Philly Rape?



The horrific and violent crime of rape should never be minimized, justified or accepted. One rape within any society is too many.
However, when a rape was reported in the Occupy Philadelphia camp and the news of that rape was posted on the Facebook page of 53%-er Kevin Eder, it prompted a strange reaction from a DC-based feminist organizer named Abigail Collazo.


Here’s the initial Facebook post from Eder;





The post drew comments as well as “likes” from FB members. But, it was the first comment that seemed strange;











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Alleged rape reported at camp - Philly.com


Rape in Occupy Philadelphia | TheBlaze.com










Occupy Crackdown: Beginning of the End for Protests?



The tension is mounting outside Oakland's City Hall after police issued three eviction notices to anti-Wall Street protesters over the weekend, telling demonstrators they do not have the right to camp overnight.
Still, 150 tents remained today in Frank Ogawa Plaza.
Though authorities have not said when or if they plan to raid the encampment, protesters are bracing for a crackdown when the sun goes down.
Oakland police issued similar warnings to Occupy Oakland before raiding the campsite on Oct. 25. More than 80 protesters were arrested and the clashes turned violent. Police used tear gas and bean bags, seriously injuring an Iraq war veteran in the process. He was reportedly released from the hospital, but his friends say he still has trouble speaking.
But the movement that garnered support around the country, is now facing backlash from city governments nationwide.
Police in many cities say they have run out of patience and officials are raising concerns about what they call unsanitary conditions, even a growing number of crimes at some camps.



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Occupy Crackdown: Beginning of the End for Protests? - ABC News
 

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Occupy N.S. questions legality of Halifax mayor's eviction notice

Organizers of the Occupy Nova Scotia demonstration say they are having a legal team review the eviction notice used to dismantle their camp in a Halifax park.

Kyle Buott said today that a committee was checking the legality of the notice to see whether the mayor had the right to evict demonstrators from the park.

Halifax Mayor Peter Kelly issued an eviction notice Friday, telling them they were in violation of a bylaw prohibiting them from setting up tents on the property.

Fourteen people were arrested and several accused the police of roughing them up when officers tore down their tents.

Three more people were arrested after a rally Saturday at another park and Buott says supporters plan on being at the courthouse Monday when one of the cases is heard.

Demonstrators have not set up tents in the city since the order was issued, but planned to hold a meeting today to plan their next move.

Occupy N.S. questions legality of Halifax mayor's eviction notice - The Globe and Mail
 

DurkaDurka

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It depends. Council could be hacked on a personal level to dig up dirt or ???

You don't need to hack 'council' to do that, if there is personal dirt it could easily be dug up by background checks, bank hacks, facebook etc. Anonymous usually operates by launching massive DDOS attacks, which aim for volume opposed to precision. If anything, the IP ranges owned by the City of Toronto will probably be unreachable for an hour or two.