Occupy Wall Street Fail

[TenPenny]

.. And if that company operates within the bounds of the law, it has every right to be run as they, themselves see fit... It is the right of the shareholders to vote in a BOD and assign the leadership on the basis of their conscious. It is not the right of some snot-nosed college student that is mad at anyone that has more than them to control the company.

You are absolutely right.

There is nothing wrong, and never has been, with corporate America. I believe that is so true that there is no need for any government bailouts, tax breaks, or subsidies to any industry. In fact, the gov't should get rid of their GM stock right this minute. The gov't should never be involved in corporate America in any way shape or form. The only way the world will be successful is if we allow corporate interests to proceed unhindered.

 

[mentalfloss]

It used to be that the government was the greatest evil. But they've taken a distance second to corporations since the 80s.

 

[CDNBear]

It used to be that the government was the greatest evil. But they've taken a distance second to corporations since the 80s.

Who regulates the corporations?

 

[damngrumpy]

The rise of this movement will mellow out but it will continue to grow as an
international movement. The real problem is, and most people don't understand
it, that the socialists and the capitalists need each other to maintain a safe level
of civilization and society.
We need capitalists to provide the spirit of competition and new advancements
The capitalists need the socialists to remind them of the debt we all owe to our
respective societies. Capitalists need to understand the world is not operated on
profit alone, and the socialists need to understand that in the universe some hard
cold facts of economic apply and must be adhered to if we are to succeed.
The problem is everyone is polarized and against each other, when these groups
must come together to assist in providing the balance needed to get us collectively
out of the mess we are in.
The Wall Street protesters are actually a positive step, in that there are socialists,
liberals and even conservatives who are demonstrating and asking questions as
to how the mess got so out of control.
We are on the brink of saving ourselves or going down in the greatest depression
the world has ever known and the jury is still out.

 

[taxslave]

So the only slides you looked at were about taxes?

You didn't think about the profitability of the banks, along with the multiple of CEO salary times workers (which has gone up drastically), or any of that other stuff.

out of the whole thing, the only idea you got was taxes.

No wonder you don't understand.

Banks making a profit is a good thing. Check where your pension fund has your money invested before you cry about execs getting rich. ANd it is all about taxes. If you tax the rich too much they will take their money and leave much like so many multi millionaire stars did in England a few decades ago. Also compare the pay of the highest paid CEOs and jocks. Now which one contributes more to the economy?

That's a perfect solution, and with no profits....have a basic minimum salary for CEOs.

In my humble opinion, no CEO should be rewarded with a bonus for losing money.

Extend that to the public service and we might agree with you.

It used to be that the government was the greatest evil. But they've taken a distance second to corporations since the 80s.

Are you old enough to remember the 80s?

 

[captain morgan]

You are absolutely right.

There is nothing wrong, and never has been, with corporate America. I believe that is so true that there is no need for any government bailouts, tax breaks, or subsidies to any industry. In fact, the gov't should get rid of their GM stock right this minute. The gov't should never be involved in corporate America in any way shape or form. The only way the world will be successful is if we allow corporate interests to proceed unhindered.

Excellent point TenPenny... Why, I'll gladly take every share owned by the US and CDN gvts off of their hands to placate the demands of folks like yourself.

Get in touch when you're ready, but I'll have the equivalent of $0.02 per share waiting for them and then we can rid our (respective) gvts of that heinous albatross that they wear around their necks,

Deal?

 

[petros]

Are you old enough to remember the 80s?

It's still the 80's in Surrey.

 

[Locutus]

Godwinism strikes again:


Wall Street Protester Proclaims 'The Jews Control Wall Street' In Zuccotti Park Rant « CBS New York

 

[Tonington]

Godwinism strikes again:


Wall Street Protester Proclaims 'The Jews Control Wall Street' In Zuccotti Park Rant « CBS New York

Only if you liken the protester to a Nazi/Hitler would that be Godwinism...

 

[mentalfloss]

who regulates the corporations?

Nobody.

That's the problem.

Believe me, I would love it if a free market of competitive corporations and denouncement of monopolies meant a better life for all of us. But that's the quackery of extreme right-wing ideology that's helped bring the U.S. into trillions of debt.

Like any good game, there has to be a practical hybrid of control and freedom.

We need to get to the root of the problem:

The Profit Margin

 

[GreenFish66]

The Top 1% have seen their wealth increase by 300%+ in the last 10 yrs - As the Gap between the Rich and Poor continues to grow Ever larger...( Washington Post Commentator - Republican Debate)...

 

[mentalfloss]

The Top 1% have seen their wealth increase by 300%+ in the last 10 yrs - As the Gap between the Rich and Poor continues to grow Ever larger...( Washington Post Commentator - Republican Debate)...

It will be bad for business when everyone is too poor to become a consumer.

 

[Walter]

The Top 1% have seen their wealth increase by 300%+ in the last 10 yrs - As the Gap between the Rich and Poor continues to grow Ever larger...( Washington Post Commentator - Republican Debate)...

What's your point?

 

[mentalfloss]

Yes, Walt, we already know you're an astroturfer. No need to get so vocal about it.

 

[taxslave]

Nobody.

That's the problem.

Believe me, I would love it if a free market of competitive corporations and denouncement of monopolies meant a better life for all of us. But that's the quackery of extreme right-wing ideology that's helped bring the U.S. into trillions of debt.

Like any good game, there has to be a practical hybrid of control and freedom.

We need to get to the root of the problem:

The Profit Margin

Please explain how if there was a margin of profit that the auto makers required a bail out.

 

[GreenFish66]

The Auto sector is there to keep the Zombie Slave Drones Busy ....Auto Sector doesn't generate wealth ..Gov feeds industry to create jobs...

 

[mentalfloss]

Please explain how if there was a margin of profit that the auto makers required a bail out.

Please explain why your pointed question assumes I think auto makers required a bail out?

 

[captain morgan]

The Top 1% have seen their wealth increase by 300%+ in the last 10 yrs - As the Gap between the Rich and Poor continues to grow Ever larger...( Washington Post Commentator - Republican Debate)...

What does this really mean GF? Further, that increase in wealth translates into an increase in opportunity for everyone, regardless of income demographic.

Perhaps that percentage you quoted should also be tied to the relative increase in taxes generated and compared to the increase in gvt spending on social programs, services, etc.

 

[GreenFish66]

Think my statements are self explanatory...

Nickel and diming the poor keeps the Zombie Slave Drones working to barely live..While the Wealthy few get all the Breaks(tax cuts)

..Everytime you pull/muscle yourself above the bar.One Fat Cat removes the floor, couple others raise the Bar ...Still another jumps on your shoulders...and Crash! ..The Middle Class to Broken Poor pay again....and Again ...And Again ..

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/102405-people-just-getting-too-selfish.html - A lot of The Wealthy " Fat Cats " are Simply getting Too Selfish and Greedy - Addicted to $$$ ( A lot, not all )

.Is all B.S..Games...

Things have got to change...

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Green/Clean Tech is now ...Is the best way to ensure a Sustainable/Prosperous Future...For all ...

Peace .... Out ...

 

[Locutus]

Who's behind the Wall Steet protests?


Anti-Wall Street protesters say the rich are getting richer while average Americans suffer, but the group that started it all may have benefited indirectly from the largesse of one of the world's richest men.


Who's behind the Wall Steet protests? | Reuters

MEET THE FLEA PARTY! :lol:



So far, the only major accomplishment of the "Occupy Wall Street" protesters is that they have finally put an end to their previous initiative, "Occupy Our Mothers' Basements."

Oddly enough for such a respectable-looking group -- a mixture of adolescents looking for a cause, public sector union members, drug dealers, criminals, teenage runaways, people who have been at every protest since the Berkeley Free Speech Movement, Andrea Dworkin look-alikes, people 95 percent of whose hair is concentrated in their ponytails and other average Democrats -- they can't even explain what they're protesting.

The protesters either treat inquiries about their purpose as a trick question, or -- worse -- instantly rattle off a series of insane causes: "No. 1, abolish capitalism; No. 2, because 9/11 was an inside job; No. 3, because Mumia is innocent ..."

Curiously, the only point universally agreed upon by the protesters and their admirers in the Democratic Party and the mainstream media is that "Occupy Wall Street" should be compared to the tea party. Yes, that would be the same tea party that has been denounced and slandered by the Democratic Party and the mainstream media for the last three years.

As a refresher: The Democratic National Committee called the tea partiers "angry mobs" and "rabid right-wing extremists." ABC said they were a "mob." CNN accused them of "rabble rousing." Harry Reid called them "evil mongers." Nancy Pelosi said they were "un-American." CNN's Anderson Cooper and every single host on MSNBC called the tea partiers a name that referred to an obscure gay sex act.


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Ann Coulter - October 12, 2011 - WINGLESS, BLOODSUCKING AND PARASITIC: MEET THE FLEA PARTY!




p.s. Mark, I'll have Ann's nudes soon.