Occupy Wall Street Fail

Locutus

Adorable Deplorable
Jun 18, 2007
32,230
47
48
66
Is It Effective to Occupy Wall Street?



If you stopped by Zuccotti Park in New York and asked 10 protesters what their goals were for Occupy Wall Street, you might get 10 different answers. This has led some reports to call the group unfocused.

So what are the demonstrators doing right, and what could they be doing better? Do these people, like others worldwide who are disillusioned with their governments, have the potential to spark a mass movement? What are they missing?

The proper address.

Can Occupy Wall Street Spark a Revolution? - Room for Debate - NYTimes.com



For Some, Wall Street Is Main Street


Panini and Company Cafe normally sells sandwiches to tourists in Lower Manhattan and the residents nearby, but in recent days its owner, Stacey Tzortzatos, has also become something of a restroom monitor. Protesters from Occupy Wall Street, who are encamped in a nearby park, have been tromping in by the scores, and not because they are hungry.

Ms. Tzortzatos’s tolerance for the newcomers finally vanished when the sink was broken and fell to the floor. She installed a $200 lock on the bathroom to thwart nonpaying customers, angering the protesters.
“I’m looked at as the enemy of the people,” she said.





more...


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/08/n...treet-begins-to-chafe-its-neighbors.html?_r=1






The educated hipsters and union-backed whiners can't scrape enough cash together to rent port-a-potties?



These idiots are picking on innocent people just trying to make a go.


Go to the White House.
 

damngrumpy

Executive Branch Member
Mar 16, 2005
9,949
21
38
kelowna bc
This movement could bring in a whole new era in politics and economics.
It is said someone must stand up against those multinational companies.
You know all those companies that we criticize while investing our retirement
funds in/
The protesters no doubt are counting on the words of Gandhi,

First they ignore you
then they laugh at you
then they become angry with you
and then you win.

It was something like that anyway. People of various political stripes are
involved here because there is no work. They are tired of big salaries and
huge profits and bailouts. If everyone was working no one would care.
Funny how that works. Never the less there is change in the air all over
the world, it is the young people knocking on the door, waiting to be heard,
many will remember the sixties when the war was the big issue, but this
time it is about the structure of society and the economic system. People
are demanding accountability and should I say this, more regulation of
the system that Ronald Reagan dismantled.
Bob Dylan said it best years ago, The times they are a changing.
 

Cliffy

Standing Member
Nov 19, 2008
44,850
193
63
Nakusp, BC
There seems to be a lot on here that can't handle change. They mock anybody who wants things to change, except, for some strange reason, the loons in the tea party. Go figure!

The local coffee hangout had a sign on their tips jar that read, "If you can't handle change, leave it here."
 

WLDB

Senate Member
Jun 24, 2011
6,182
0
36
Ottawa
what did you ascertain to be the key concerns for these 99ers?? What is making them the most angry?? Besides protesting......what ideas do they have that would go towards solving this mess??

They don't seem to be giving ideas, just letting it be known that they're unhappy. There's a wide variety of people there. Some just for the hell of it and want to cause trouble. For the ones who are genuinely pissed off the main issue seems to be jobs. They can't get any that are livable.
 

CDNBear

Custom Troll
Sep 24, 2006
43,839
207
63
Ontario
There seems to be a lot on here that can't handle change. They mock anybody who wants things to change, except, for some strange reason, the loons in the tea party. Go figure!

The Tea Party folk want change too. You and your ilk, mock them.

I mock any protester/s that act like an ass.

I actually support the Tea Partier's and the 99'ers. For various reasons.

Now if only the 99'ers had one clear, coherent, intelligent message. I know why I don't like the folks on Wall/Bay streets.

I know what my message would be.
 
Last edited:

SLM

The Velvet Hammer
Mar 5, 2011
29,151
5
36
London, Ontario
They don't seem to be giving ideas, just letting it be known that they're unhappy. There's a wide variety of people there. Some just for the hell of it and want to cause trouble. For the ones who are genuinely pissed off the main issue seems to be jobs. They can't get any that are livable.

So it's a large group of angry people without a leader and no clear, coherent message?

Gee, that always ends so well.
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
ES, I think you're stretching the truth a little. That isn't how a pension plan normally works, and even if it did I suspect such a case of intentional retirement accident would be rare and likely uncovered as fraud.

I am not stretching the truth at all. This happens a lot here in Massachusetts.

Read for yourself...

Corruption Loves Company : NPR

An exerpt...

"It's part of a bigger story, Bennett points out. In recent years, Boston's fire department has had twice the disability retirement rate as those in comparable cities, and between 2001 and 2006, 102 Boston firefighters were granted inflated disability pensions because they reported suffering career-ending injuries while filling in for a superior, sometimes for a single day. "
 

Locutus

Adorable Deplorable
Jun 18, 2007
32,230
47
48
66
Kanye Visited Occupy Wall Street In $355 Givenchy Plaid & $1000 Balmain Jeans


He feels their pain man.


Kanye West Visits Occupy Wall Street | Styleite


Kanye West Visits Occupy Wall Street Without Removing Gold Chains [Updated] -- Daily Intel

A very privileged protest:



Wearing $300 jeans and from some of the most exclusive schools, the children of the one per cent out for a good time at Occupy Wall Street


TEA PARTY Invades OCCUPY DC- (explicit) - YouTube
 

WLDB

Senate Member
Jun 24, 2011
6,182
0
36
Ottawa
So it's a large group of angry people without a leader and no clear, coherent message?

Gee, that always ends so well.

It doesn't yet, but it is still early. I've seen a lot of people saying this could be a Tea Party-esque movement if it keeps going. It'd be interesting. Two radical groups taking over the mainstream American parties-if it happens.
 

s_lone

Council Member
Feb 16, 2005
2,233
30
48
44
Montreal
 

Locutus

Adorable Deplorable
Jun 18, 2007
32,230
47
48
66
Even some of the liberal media are trying to speak through the MSM filter that has been put on this thing. High time too.


CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: (Asked of Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz) Well, can you list the things that you would do as a member of Congress and a leader of the Party that's going to make them happy? What are you doing to win the support? From what I understand, the people in the streets are so alienated right now, so angry, they don't like either political party. It's not a place where President Obama, for example, could go up and get a big applause from showing up, or he'd be there now. How do you make them see you guys as the good guys?


RON REAGAN JR., RADIO HOST: This is a movement that has a broad-based anger. And the challenge, it seems to me, for the Democratic Party, if they want to somehow join the movement or co-opt the movement, however you want to put it, is that these folks are just as mad at them as they are at the Republicans.


MATTHEWS: Yes.


REAGAN: The Republicans may be more egregiously in the hip pocket of Wall Street and the bankers, but the Democrats are too. There are plenty of Democratic Congressmen and Senators who staked their whole careers on providing tax loopholes for the richest one percent. They're not the natural allies of the Occupy Wall Street movement.
MATTHEWS: And by the way, let's not forget the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the White House at numerous times in our lifetimes, and they didn't fix the tax system when they had all the power in the world.


REAGAN: These people are angry at a system that has been rigged by both parties to serve moneyed interests. The Democrats have been complicit in that, just as the Republicans have been complicit in that. Your question to Debbie Wasserman Schultz, what are you going to offer these people, is exactly the question. What are the Democrats going to offer these people? They going to throw some bankers in jail? Are they going to close the loopholes for the richest one percent? I'm not so sure that all the Democrats are on board with that?
MATTHEWS: Yeah, I wonder if both parties aren’t hoping for colder weather that comes soon, because then they can say, “What a great demonstration of unhappiness and how wonderful it's over so we don't have to worry about it anymore.”

Very related:


Gingrich: Media Blaming Business Community for Financial Crisis Should Go After Politicians That Caused it First


Similar:


Protesters Occupy the Liberal Media



Bozell Column: Protesters Occupy the Liberal Media | NewsBusters.org
 

ironsides

Executive Branch Member
Feb 13, 2009
8,583
60
48
United States
"We want it now, what do we want, we don't know." It is not Wall Street they should be protesting, but the politicians who actually created these problems. (all of them both Democrats and Republicans)