Obligation of the church

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gerryh

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Shut it Pudney you can't reverse the roles and wiggle out of your stupidity. Best talk about something you know about dummy.

You obviously do not tithe as suggested by the bible your religion calls the word of god. No funeral for your ignorant azz by your church unless you pay them dummy.

Fact of the matter is with all the atrocities she and her offspring are responsible for the ultra rich harlot should buy everyone a new home as well. How's that set with ye Pudney? :).


Here ya go, numbnuts.Not that it will make any difference. This also proves that you don't know as much about the Bible as you thought you did. I'm sure though, that you will come up with some kind of bullshyte that the OT over rides the NT.




After the death of Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law, the New Testament nowhere commands, or even recommends, that Christians submit to a legalistic tithe system. The New Testament nowhere designates a percentage of income a person should set aside, but only says gifts should be “in keeping with income” (1 Corinthians 16:2). Some in the Christian church have taken the 10 percent figure from the Old Testament tithe and applied it as a “recommended minimum” for Christians in their giving.

The New Testament talks about the importance and benefits of giving. We are to give as we are able. Sometimes that means giving more than 10 percent; sometimes that may mean giving less. It all depends on the ability of the Christian and the needs of the body of Christ. Every Christian should diligently pray and seek God’s wisdom in the matter of participating in tithing and/or how much to give (James 1:5). Above all, all tithes and offerings should be given with pure motives and an attitude of worship to God and service to the body of Christ. “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver” (2 Corinthians 9:7).


https://gotquestions.org/tithing-Christian.html
 

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Here ya go, numbnuts.Not that it will make any difference. This also proves that you don't know as much about the Bible as you thought you did. I'm sure though, that you will come up with some kind of bullshyte that the OT over rides the NT.




After the death of Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law, the New Testament nowhere commands, or even recommends, that Christians submit to a legalistic tithe system. The New Testament nowhere designates a percentage of income a person should set aside, but only says gifts should be “in keeping with income” (1 Corinthians 16:2). Some in the Christian church have taken the 10 percent figure from the Old Testament tithe and applied it as a “recommended minimum” for Christians in their giving.

The New Testament talks about the importance and benefits of giving. We are to give as we are able. Sometimes that means giving more than 10 percent; sometimes that may mean giving less. It all depends on the ability of the Christian and the needs of the body of Christ. Every Christian should diligently pray and seek God’s wisdom in the matter of participating in tithing and/or how much to give (James 1:5). Above all, all tithes and offerings should be given with pure motives and an attitude of worship to God and service to the body of Christ. “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver” (2 Corinthians 9:7).


https://gotquestions.org/tithing-Christian.html
Don't tell me moron tell your church . They're the ones getting filthy rich off of you brain dead freaks.
 

gerryh

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Don't tell me moron tell your church . They're the ones getting filthy rich off of you brain dead freaks.

and Petros has already proven to you that the Catholic Church does not require Tithing.


You ready to admit you were wrong?
 

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Incidentally dummy, in case you didn't know the bible records Jesus as saying he did not come to change the law but to fulfill it, and one jot or tittle shall not pass from it. Historically speaking your Jesus was not Catholic. He was probably an obscure Rabbi who studied under Rabbi Hillel. He was most probably deeply Jewish and loyal to the Torah. He bucked the Roman authority and was executed by the Romans for that. A few centuries later with the help of the imposter Saul , the bastardized religion called Christianity was legalized in Rome by Constantine and a decade later the corrupted books compiled by the council of Nicea were assembled at the maniacle emperor Constantines request. There is your religion. Sucking the life out of the naive and ignorant for centuries. Several hundred years later the daughters of the harlot protested things like indugences and out of that came the reformation and hundreds of new little money grubbers were born to suck the life out of "again', the naive and ignorant. this is just the biggest of the three Abrahamic faiths that have made the world we have today and the crooked saps owe the "naive and ignorant", that they have screwed for thousands of years, to at least pay to plant the poor fukkers. That's how I feel. You don't like it,,,why in the fuk would I care. Your opinion means dick to me Pudney. Now go crawl in your hole you nauseating weasel and read a book because you are most assuredly an ignorant buffoon.
 

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Catholics pay only if they want and if they do, and it's 100% their choice on the amount. I believe the Pentecostal, mormons, have a 10% imposed fee. Islam is similar to Catholics on this respect, giving is voluntary and funds are raise by hosting dinners, etc.. but a collection plate is passed at the end of the sermons/ speech.
 

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and Petros has already proven to you that the Catholic Church does not require Tithing.


You ready to admit you were wrong?

The Catholic church requires you to sureender your children to pedophilia.


The list of transgressions would seem to be damning evidence, numbering as it does in the hundreds of thousands, Gods message? Fuk off!
 

gerryh

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Incidentally dummy, in case you didn't know the bible records Jesus as saying he did not come to change the law but to fulfill it, and one jot or tittle shall not pass from it. Historically speaking your Jesus was not Catholic. He was probably an obscure Rabbi who studied under Rabbi Hillel. He was most probably deeply Jewish and loyal to the Torah. He bucked the Roman authority and was executed by the Romans for that. A few centuries later with the help of the imposter Saul , the bastardized religion called Christianity was legalized in Rome by Constantine and a decade later the corrupted books compiled by the council of Nicea were assembled at the maniacle emperor Constantines request. There is your religion. Sucking the life out of the naive and ignorant for centuries. Several hundred years later the daughters of the harlot protested things like indugences and out of that came the reformation and hundredscof new little money grubbers were born to suck the life out of "again', the naive and ignorant. this is just the biggest of the three Abrahamic faithsxthat have made the world we have today and the crooked saps owe the "naive and ignorant", that they have screwed for thousands of years, to at least pay to plant the poor fukkers. That's how I feel. You don't like it,,,why in the fuk would I care. Your opinion means dick to me Pudney. Now go crawl in your hole you nauseating weasel and read a book because you are most assuredly an ignorant buffoon.


and all of those "assumptions" have what to do with present day Christianity and what the NT and the Catholic Church says about tithing? I know what Christ said about the Law and he was referring to God's law, The 10 commandments, not levitican law (which were man's laws) He never changed the law, as a matter of fact, he expanded on them.

At the Last Supper, Jesus made it very clear where the "old" covenants stood when he stated that he was bringing a "New and everlasting covenant". This covenant supersedes the previous covenant that God had made with man. This, however, is not news to you since you are such a learned man when it comes to the Bible, right? :roll:


So, you go ahead and keep putting your foot in it and continue to lie to yourself about what you know and don't know concerning Christianity, Christ, and the Roman Catholic Faith.

The Catholic church requires you to sureender your children to pedophilia.


The list of transgressions would seem to be damning evidence, numbering as it does in the hundreds of thousands, Gods message? Fuk off!



Time for your meds
 

Ludlow

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Catholics pay only if they want and if they do, and it's 100% their choice on the amount. I believe the Pentecostal, mormons, have a 10% imposed fee. Islam is similar to Catholics on this respect, giving is voluntary and funds are raise by hosting dinners, etc.. but a collection plate is passed at the end of the sermons/ speech.
Yes we all are familiar with the fear and guilt trip part associated with tithing.

and all of those "assumptions" have what to do with present day Christianity and what the NT and the Catholic Church says about tithing? I know what Christ said about the Law and he was referring to God's law, The 10 commandments, not levitican law (which were man's laws) He never changed the law, as a matter of fact, he expanded on them.

At the Last Supper, Jesus made it very clear where the "old" covenants stood when he stated that he was bringing a "New and everlasting covenant". This covenant supersedes the previous covenant that God had made with man. This, however, is not news to you since you are such a learned man when it comes to the Bible, right? :roll:


So, you go ahead and keep putting your foot in it and continue to lie to yourself about what you know and don't know concerning Christianity, Christ, and the Roman Catholic Faith.





Time for your meds
Time for your meds idiot. Do the words "willful ignorance" mean anything to you. Might I suggest some thorazine you're obviously delusional.
 

gerryh

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Yes we all are familiar with the fear and guilt trip part associated with tithing.


Time for your meds idiot. Do the words "willful ignorance" mean anything to you. Might I suggest some thorazine you're obviously delusional.



Even after all the evidence Petro's and I have posted, you still won't admit you're wrong. Oh well, they say ignorance is bliss, and judging from your ignorance, you must be the most blissful dumba$$ in the states.

and btw, I have never experienced fear, or guilt when it comes to my faith.
 

Ludlow

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and all of those "assumptions" have what to do with present day Christianity and what the NT and the Catholic Church says about tithing? I know what Christ said about the Law and he was referring to God's law, The 10 commandments, not levitican law (which were man's laws) He never changed the law, as a matter of fact, he expanded on them.

At the Last Supper, Jesus made it very clear where the "old" covenants stood when he stated that he was bringing a "New and everlasting covenant". This covenant supersedes the previous covenant that God had made with man. This, however, is not news to you since you are such a learned man when it comes to the Bible, right? :roll:


So, you go ahead and keep putting your foot in it and continue to lie to yourself about what you know and don't know concerning Christianity, Christ, and the Roman Catholic Faith.





Time for your meds
Incidentally Pudney this "New Covenant" you speak of , which is pure grace, was like many threads in this forum,,,"derailed". No one put more burdens on mens shoulders than your hero Saul. Your religion is the shyt. Tell it to your neighbor I've already heard it..
 

gerryh

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Incidentally Pudney this "New Covenant" you speak of , which is pure grace, was like many threads in this forum,,,"derailed". No one put more burdens on mens shoulders than your hero Saul. Your religion is the shyt. Tell it to your neighbor I've already heard it..



ROFLMAO.... showing more of your ignorance when it comes to me and my faith. Keep going, stupid, soon you will completely disappear up your a$$ along with your head.
 

Ludlow

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ROFLMAO.... showing more of your ignorance when it comes to me and my faith. Keep going, stupid, soon you will completely disappear up your a$$ along with your head.
Good come back. I guess I'll reciprocate with, No you are". Go clean the kitchen ma'am.

An interesting study would be if the early church fathers were guilty of pedophilia as they are today. Who was it,,Origen that whacked off his own pecker? That Pedo stuff goes back to Nero. Looks like tradition to me.