Obesity 'not individuals' fault'

[Twila]

I don't recall specific parasite names...However 1 thing that was mentioned was that even if you have your doctor test you unless they test for these specifically the test will come up negative.

Found this:

http://www.parasite-cleanse.com/internal-parasites.html

 

[triedit]

can someone give me information on any cleanse that does not contain soy or fruit extracts/juices, or nuts? (allergies). I have so many toxins. I know my life would be SO much better if I could quit smoking. The weight is the least of my worries...I have great blood pressure (usually 100/70) and no sugar issues. The smoking would be awesome to quit. I keep trying...no success yet....

 

[karrie]

And those doctors will often have a system for you to buy too.

I've seen so many like that peddling their cures since I started researching ways to cope with fibro. It gets sickening after awhile. One of the big ones marketed as a magic bullet for fibro is a pill guaranteed to kill the yeast in your intestinal tract. The yeast, in theory, perforates your intestines and causes fecal matter to leak, microscopically, into your blood stream. True perhaps, but I tend to be jaded in what I'll believe from the guy trying to sell me the cure.

I was just hearing on the radio about a doctor talking about the parasites that live in our intestinal tract and how a parasite cleanse is a good thing for us. Cultures all across the globe had been doing such for eons, but us here in North America seem to have stopped. The excrement from these unwelcome guests can cause all kinds of pollution in the body and can trigger autoimmune problems.

Interesting stuff.

 

[karrie]

can someone give me information on any cleanse that does not contain soy or fruit extracts/juices, or nuts? (allergies). I have so many toxins. I know my life would be SO much better if I could quit smoking. The weight is the least of my worries...I have great blood pressure (usually 100/70) and no sugar issues. The smoking would be awesome to quit. I keep trying...no success yet....

The only medically recommended cleansing practices I've seen for fibro are water, lots of dietary fibre, deep breathing, and massage of the tender points, where a large amount of toxins accumulate.

 

[triedit]

Ive been wondering about massage actually. Deep tissue massage is part of my physio regimen since the accident and thats also when I started losing weight....my activity level went way down yet I lost about half a pound a week! One of the things he does (when I can tolerate it) is massage my tenderest points. Hurts like the dickens but it does seem to help. On about the third day LOL

I wonder how long I will be allowed the physio from the insurance....Ive been at it 6 months. Im down to once a week now.

 

[karrie]

Well, if they do take away your physio, there are a few good ways to work those points at home. put a tennis ball in the leg of a nylon, drape it over your shoulder so that it hangs on your back and the needed spot, and lean into a wall with it. Cheap and effective, and easy even for physically immobile people to get it to where it needs to be.

Another one I do, is to lie on the floor with a rolling pin under my tender points. I lay on it until it quits hurting.

And of course, hubbies are handy at working them out too. My whole backside is completely numb from hubby just working out the ones above my hips. He increases the pressure until I beg him to stop, and holds the pressure there until it quits hurting. Works wonders, but can feel totally bizarre once its finished.... the only thing I can find to explain it is the way rubbing alcohol feels when it evaporates... it feels like I've had it poured all down my hips.

Ive been wondering about massage actually. Deep tissue massage is part of my physio regimen since the accident and thats also when I started losing weight....my activity level went way down yet I lost about half a pound a week! One of the things he does (when I can tolerate it) is massage my tenderest points. Hurts like the dickens but it does seem to help. On about the third day LOL

I wonder how long I will be allowed the physio from the insurance....Ive been at it 6 months. Im down to once a week now.

 

[Outta here]

I've no idea if this could be helpful or not, I'm just going to pass along a conversation I had today with a co-worker.

She suffers quite badly from arthritis in her hands. This morning she told me she'd just come back from a trip to the accuncture clinic and was feeling marvelous. She's been going once a week for almost 2 years now, and has been off all of her arthritis and pain meds for over a year. The clinic she goes to is at a college, and her visits cost her only $10.00 each. She also says she gets very good quality treatment, as it's only the 3rd year students that are allowed to practice on patients and they are very well supervised by instructors who obviously have to be very current in their knowledge.

Could be something you could look into triedit - I imagine all colleges offering programs in acupuncture would have a similar fee scale?

 

[karrie]

I had to walk with a cane before acupuncture at my physiotherapist.

But don't believe the hype that's based around relaxational therapies with it. If you're going for acupuncture for a muscular issue like fibro, they go DEEP with the needles, and it HURTS when they hit a muscle that's in spasm.

It works wonders, but it's tough.

 

[Tonington]

I don't recall specific parasite names...However 1 thing that was mentioned was that even if you have your doctor test you unless they test for these specifically the test will come up negative.

Found this:

http://www.parasite-cleanse.com/internal-parasites.html

Ahh, I figured giardia would be one of them.

 

[Tonington]

I had to walk with a cane before acupuncture at my physiotherapist.

But don't believe the hype that's based around relaxational therapies with it. If you're going for acupuncture for a muscular issue like fibro, they go DEEP with the needles, and it HURTS when they hit a muscle that's in spasm.

It works wonders, but it's tough.

Yah, my physio with the accupuncture sucked. Arm felt hot and heavy for hours afterwards. I was expecting much different.

 

[triedit]

Yep accupuncture got me off the cane (most days) as well. I love it!

 

[karrie]

Mine was a hip flexor that was in such a permanent state of spasm, that it was pinching off the nerves in my leg, and making the whole thing go numb. So I'd trip on my own foot, or my knee wouldn't be locked when I'd hoped it would. lol. So, every two days I'd have to go for physio and drop trou for a hot South African physiotherapist. Every woman's dream... with a sadistic twist.

 

[Tonington]

hot South African physiotherapist. Every woman's dream... with a sadistic twist.

LOL, that's hilarious. My physiotherapist was a hot South African gal. Every guys dream. She was very popular amongst the Junior A hockey players. But she was too classy for them :lol: Also a tad sadistic.

 

[dancing-loon]

but when you weigh 400lbs it's SO hard to get out the door...

:lol: I like your sense of humor, Trude!! Clearly, one shouldn't let it get that far.
Aren't we due for a third World War soon and some rationing cards??? That would fix the problem in a hurry, don't you think?

 

[Unforgiven]

There are as many factors involved with weight problems as there are with poverty. Why bother to throw blame around anyway? What good does that do?
Obesity is an obvious problem but there are plenty of flaws to go around. Some just take a liitle closer examination to see as well.

 

[shadowshiv]

It's not my fault. Nobody is responsible anymore. Sounds about right.

Try eating less food and getting active.



Individuals can no longer be held responsible for obesity and government must act to stop Britain "sleepwalking" into a crisis, a report has concluded.


The largest ever UK study into obesity, backed by government and compiled by 250 experts, said excess weight was now the norm in our "obesogenic" society.
Dramatic and comprehensive action was required to stop the majority of us becoming obese by 2050, they said. But the authors admitted proof that any anti-obesity policy worked "was scant".

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7047244.stm

I have a bit of a gut on me, and it is no one's fault but my own. If I ate better, and exercised more, I would be in better health. One of these days, I am going to get off my ass and do something about it.:-(

 

[s243a]

Has anyone watched the CNN documentary, "America's killer diet". Some people blame the obesity problems on the agriculture bills in the Untied States. I'm not sure how much truth their is in it but it is interesting.

 

[Twila]

Ahh, I figured giardia would be one of them

why is that? and Is this the same one the infects cats?

 

[MikeyDB]

What's reasonable to expect from a society that rushes out to buy pet rocks? What's reasonable to expect from a society that sits glued to their TV set to watch as OJ Simpson hires high-priced defense to thumb his nose at the law? What's reasonable to expect from a society that lionizes Paris Hilton and would let Conrad Black Ken Lay and white collar criminals off the hook by sending them to prisons with golf-courses and riding lessons?

What's reasonable to expect from a society that can be placated with nonsense like "Guns are bad and the source of everything that's wrong in our society..." when the underlying and supporting rationale behind violence is drug abuse and all forms of criminality...some actively endorsed by our political system?

While Stephen Harper makes nice with Columbia, we have youngsters selling drugs and guns on our streets, the development of which comes directly from the leverage that drug cartels and big-money available through these activities offer young people....

If you want to understand what's going on you have to broaden your horizon....

 

[Tonington]

why is that? and Is this the same one the infects cats?

Yah, it's the protozoan that causes diarrhea and other rhea's, extreme gas, foul smelling gas(or perhaps more foul ) and a host of other symptoms.

It affects more than just humans, also cats, dogs, cows and sheep.

Unfortunately, because it is Eukaryotic like us, the drugs also have crappy side effects.