Obesity and Supermarkets, Is there a Connection?

petros

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There is plenty of bull**** abound when it comes to what is "healthy". They push milk on kids as though they are going to die without it. Do human children gain 450kg in a year like a calf? Should children graze on grass too?
 

Chiliagon

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you can slice an apple into 80 pieces

Slice up an apple and make a pie. Ever heard of Dorito pie? A gateway drug to a triple by-pass.

ya but 1 apple sliced into 80 pieces is still 1 apple made smaller. still not the same amount.

i'm talking 80 whole apples vs 80 pieces of chips.

There is plenty of bull**** abound when it comes to what is "healthy". They push milk on kids as though they are going to die without it. Do human children gain 450kg in a year like a calf? Should children graze on grass too?

they have proven in scientific studies that the Calcium and Fat in Milk for children is important.

as you get older they say you should reduce the amt of fat in the milk you drink.


I remember as a child I drank 2% milk and when I was a late teenager into my early 20's I was on 1%

for the last 6 years or so I have been drinking Skim Milk. and nothing else.
 

petros

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A bag of doritos start as an ear of corn which is great but you'd never eat corn torillas without it's weight in corn being macthed equally with sodium.

ya but 1 apple sliced into 80 pieces is still 1 apple made smaller. still not the same amount.

i'm talking 80 whole apples vs 80 pieces of chips.



they have proven in scientific studies that the Calcium and Fat in Milk for children is important.

as you get older they say you should reduce the amt of fat in the milk you drink.


I remember as a child I drank 2% milk and when I was a late teenager into my early 20's I was on 1%

for the last 6 years or so I have been drinking Skim Milk. and nothing else.
I've been off the teat since I was 18 months and was fed good stuff like broccoli with more than enough calcium and oodles of protein.
 

petros

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well, I just think that Society promotes obesity. yes, we are the ultimate deciders of our fate.. but Society seems to encourage it.
Society doesn't promote it. Commerce does.

If you need help, for every temptation there is a NPO to help you overcome. THAT is society at work. Not promoting you to over consume.
 

Chiliagon

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Society doesn't promote it. Commerce does.

If you need help, for every temptation there is a NPO to help you overcome. THAT is society at work. Not promoting you to over consume.


doesn't our society today openly promote at a constant rate and through spending millions to make us aware of McDonalds, Wendy's Burger King, JAck in the Box, Pizza Hut, KFC, and others?

knowing that this food will kill you if you eat it regularly?

Canada has at least banned advertising for Smoking Products.

Just once I'd like to see Safeway or Superstore, create a TV commercial promoting and suggesting that we buy and eat apples, oranges, bananas, strawberries, carrots, lettuce, potatos, tomatos.. etc.
 

Chiliagon

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I dunno. I am not sure if Society will ever change when it comes to nutrition on a whole scale..

maybe not unless suddenly the death rate rises significantly and they start to notice a high trend developing where people are dying from things like obesity and heart disease linked to obesity and eating.

might take 100 years.

didn't they have in Star Trek that they wiped all that out with technology and new scientific discoveries?
 
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Chiliagon

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ya I know

funny, Society and marketing is what brought on the whole obesity issue.

they introduced Mcdonalds and fast food, they introduced processed foods, they began the reign of fatty foods and chemicals into our food.

yet they can't remove it.
 

karrie

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I would like to see us be able to buy more Apples per $1 than what it currently is.

You want to be able to get more than a full pound of food for a dollar? btw, quickly whipped out the kitchen scale and gave a quick weigh, and 1lb (which I pay anywhere from 70 cents to 99 cents for, depending on which store), is 3 full apples. 30 cents per snack apprx. I can't think of any packaged snack I can put in my kids' lunch that is that cheap per serving, except perhaps the yogurt I buy them which is around 50 cents a unit. No bag of chips comes anywhere near that price.

While I agree with you that it would be nice to see staples cheaper (what mom wouldn't?), I can't really agree with what you're implying in this thread, that it's the stores' fault that people buy other stuff instead.
 

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Bad Food? Tax It, and Subsidize Vegetables

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/o...ml?pagewanted=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha212

"This program would, of course, upset the processed food industry. Oh well. It would also bug those who might resent paying more for soda and chips and argue that their right to eat whatever they wanted was being breached. But public health is the role of the government, and our diet is right up there with any other public responsibility you can name, from water treatment to mass transit."



"Currently, instead of taxing sodas and other unhealthful food, we subsidize them (with, I might note, tax dollars!). Direct subsidies to farmers for crops like corn (used, for example, to make now-ubiquitous high-fructose corn syrup) and soybeans (vegetable oil) keep the prices of many unhealthful foods and beverages artificially low. There are indirect subsidies as well, because prices of junk foods don’t reflect the costs of repairing our health and the environment."
 

taxslave

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yup , think about this..

the number of surgeries for heart related issues due to cholesterol and fat, and clogged arteries increase, Insurance costs go up,

The Cities and the Country see that there's a demand for more technology and doctors to deal with the increasing health problems due to Obesity problems, and so in order to pay for it they have to increase taxes and healthcare costs.

so our income goes down due to paying more taxes.

Thats because our stupid socialist health care system trys to treat everyone equally regardless of how well or poorly they look after themselves. People that do not at least half ways look after their bodies should not be eligible for full free health care. Same goes for smokers that get cancer, they cn py for their own chemo.