Obama Gives $192M to Palestinians
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I'm stating facts that our MSM doesn't report. Also, unlike some trolls on this thread, I'm not attacking anyone here.
Palestinians faced a difficult choice in the last election. The US and Israel expected that the Palestinians could be convinced to re-elect the corrupt incumbent party led by Abbas. They expected that with the right spin and enough campaign financing, Palestinians could be bamboozled into voting for their corrupt candidates despite a record of selling them out.
Instead the Palestinian electorate handed a majority government to the religious zealot party which had a record of raising money for charity and building schools and hospitals.
Popularity Poses a Dilemma for Hamas - TIME
The US and Israel didn't like the election results, so they armed Abbas and rented him a small army of mercenaries. Abbas successfully overthrew the democratically elected Palestinian government in the West Bank, but the democratically elected government successfully defended themselves in Gaza in part due to their successful interception of seizure of US/Israeli arms shipments to Abbas operatives in Gaza.
US and Israeli aid to dictator Abbas is not intended to help average Palestinians. The US and Israel buys arms and mercenaries for Abbas. If they stop paying Abbas's mercenaries, the Palestinians would overthrow their dictator. My position is that the US and Israel should stop wasting their money supporting their puppet dictator. He'll be overthrown by popular revolt sooner or later. If the US and Israel cut off his "aid", he'll be overthrown sooner.
Palestinians faced a difficult choice in the last election. The US and Israel expected that the Palestinians could be convinced to re-elect the corrupt incumbent party led by Abbas. They expected that with the right spin and enough campaign financing, Palestinians could be bamboozled into voting for their corrupt candidates despite a record of selling them out.
Instead the Palestinian electorate handed a majority government to the religious zealot party which had a record of raising money for charity and building schools and hospitals.
Popularity Poses a Dilemma for Hamas - TIME
The US and Israel didn't like the election results, so they armed Abbas and rented him a small army of mercenaries. Abbas successfully overthrew the democratically elected Palestinian government in the West Bank, but the democratically elected government successfully defended themselves in Gaza in part due to their successful interception of seizure of US/Israeli arms shipments to Abbas operatives in Gaza.
US and Israeli aid to dictator Abbas is not intended to help average Palestinians. The US and Israel buys arms and mercenaries for Abbas. If they stop paying Abbas's mercenaries, the Palestinians would overthrow their dictator. My position is that the US and Israel should stop wasting their money supporting their puppet dictator. He'll be overthrown by popular revolt sooner or later. If the US and Israel cut off his "aid", he'll be overthrown sooner.
While omitting things that don't support your agenda.
Just because they're off line, doesn't change a thing.
Feel free to fill in the blanks. At the same time, please try to respect forum rules regarding trolling and personal attacks. This thread is about US aid to Abbas. The news is trying to make it sound like this aid will benefit the Palestinian people in some way. My point is this money buys arms and rents mercenaries for a corrupt dictator. The only food it buys makes the corrupt dictator fatter, while the Palestinian people get skinnier.
AI already did.
Spare me your hypocrisy.
And other than your usual rhetoric, you haven't proven it will not.
Interesting choice of words considering Palestinians are suffering from obesity...
Obesity in a rural and an urba... [Int J Obes Relat Metab Disord. 2003] - PubMed - NCBI
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Aid comes without strings, this had strings so it was a bribe, I remember when that used to be against the law, or at least a few token heads got loped off, literally, course they were guilty as sin so it isn't like they didn't do worse when they were alive. Now the worst of the worst are given sanctuary in luxurious accommodations.
That may change, instead of letting the widows keep the bribes it will end up being confiscated and eaten up my interest on new loans to the old banks. Have to see how Egypt settles their crooked dictators and that should be the model for everybody. Egypt and Saudi are going to have to cuddle up if the Red Sea is going to have ports that can handle the superships.
NATO yelling we musty keep them from taking this to court, what kind of example would that set for the world at large. This is so ****ing twisted it is still ass-backwards in the mirror image. Guess that is why it gets so many cheers around here. lol
That may change, instead of letting the widows keep the bribes it will end up being confiscated and eaten up my interest on new loans to the old banks. Have to see how Egypt settles their crooked dictators and that should be the model for everybody. Egypt and Saudi are going to have to cuddle up if the Red Sea is going to have ports that can handle the superships.
NATO yelling we musty keep them from taking this to court, what kind of example would that set for the world at large. This is so ****ing twisted it is still ass-backwards in the mirror image. Guess that is why it gets so many cheers around here. lol
Now if you change that $192million to $192trillion you might be close to what the US has given Israel to use against the Palestinians. The utter height of hypocrisy to say they are helping Palestine. $192 million wouldn't even buy enough band-aids for the minor wounds Israel has inflicted collaterally.
The US isn't under any obligation to provide charity to Palestine. If they decide to fund Israel, that's their business.
If the money actually went to help Palestinians. But this "aid" is about propping up the American/Israeli puppet dictator
...the PA (Palestinian Authority) itself has neither legitimacy nor credibility. Whatever remained of the latter was lost during the Israeli war on Gaza and the publishing of the Palestine Papers by Al-Jazeera and The Guardian. The papers showed that the very individuals now championing a Palestinian statehood bid at the UN once regularly collaborated with Israel to crack down on Palestinian resistance. They helped Israel undermine Palestinian democracy, isolate democratically-elected Hamas, give away the refugees' right of return, and worse, deprive Palestinians from any meaningful sovereignty in occupied Jerusalem. As for its lack of legitimacy, the matter requires no leaked documents. In fact, Fatah's refusal to concede to 2006 election results led to circumstances that gave birth to civil war in Gaza. Gaza's besiegement (a direct consequence of elections and the civil war) continues to serve both Israel and the PA equally. The latter is functioning in the West Bank with no popular mandate, surviving on international handouts and "security coordination" with the Israeli army...
Al-Ahram Weekly | Opinion | Behind Abbas's political gambit
This Gwynne Dyer article accurately describes the current situation:
Mahmoud Abbas | Gwynne Dyer
...the PA (Palestinian Authority) itself has neither legitimacy nor credibility. Whatever remained of the latter was lost during the Israeli war on Gaza and the publishing of the Palestine Papers by Al-Jazeera and The Guardian. The papers showed that the very individuals now championing a Palestinian statehood bid at the UN once regularly collaborated with Israel to crack down on Palestinian resistance. They helped Israel undermine Palestinian democracy, isolate democratically-elected Hamas, give away the refugees' right of return, and worse, deprive Palestinians from any meaningful sovereignty in occupied Jerusalem. As for its lack of legitimacy, the matter requires no leaked documents. In fact, Fatah's refusal to concede to 2006 election results led to circumstances that gave birth to civil war in Gaza. Gaza's besiegement (a direct consequence of elections and the civil war) continues to serve both Israel and the PA equally. The latter is functioning in the West Bank with no popular mandate, surviving on international handouts and "security coordination" with the Israeli army...
Al-Ahram Weekly | Opinion | Behind Abbas's political gambit
This Gwynne Dyer article accurately describes the current situation:
Mahmoud Abbas | Gwynne Dyer
If they quit stealing from them the Arabs would be smothering them in money, so what if the price of oil went up a few $$, it was the West's idea to have things this way against the better judgment of those that lived in the area. Now they can foot the bill for a very bad plan, or was that the plan, follow a plan that could not possibly cause anything but misery, and at a high interest rate. They don't supply charity they never have, the back Israel's economic war against Gaza and the West Bank.
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JERUSALEM — As Israel ordered a slight easing of its blockade of the Gaza Strip Wednesday, McClatchy obtained an Israeli government document that describes the blockade not as a security measure but as "economic warfare" against the Islamist group Hamas, which rules the Palestinian territory.
Read more here: Israeli document: Gaza blockade isn't about security | McClatchy
One part you are not up to speed on is the 'gifted money' is to restore services taken out some years ago by the IDF with 'gifted American weapons' that is part of a yearly $3B deal, paid for by the American taxpayer as would the 'bribe money'.
(in part)
JERUSALEM — As Israel ordered a slight easing of its blockade of the Gaza Strip Wednesday, McClatchy obtained an Israeli government document that describes the blockade not as a security measure but as "economic warfare" against the Islamist group Hamas, which rules the Palestinian territory.
Read more here: Israeli document: Gaza blockade isn't about security | McClatchy
One part you are not up to speed on is the 'gifted money' is to restore services taken out some years ago by the IDF with 'gifted American weapons' that is part of a yearly $3B deal, paid for by the American taxpayer as would the 'bribe money'.
The US and Israel seem to have unlimited budgets to oppress, torture and kill Palestinians. Israel also has no limits on how much they will spend to cleanse Palestine of Palestinians in order to create Jewish only colonies on land supposedly reserved for a future Palestinian state (Palestinians have been waiting over 40 years for this state).
The only Palestinian worthy of US and Israeli charity is their puppet dictator. The US and Israel are willing to spend millions to arm the unpopular dictator and rent him a small army of mercenaries so that he isn't killed by Palestinians.
Then there is all the tax money Israel collects from Palestinians and holds indefinitely. I believe Americans call that system "taxation without representation" and was one of the stated reason for American colonists to commit acts of terrorism against the British crown around 1776.
Israel cuts off Palestinian tax funds as relations hit new low - Middle East - World - The Independent
But the US apparently has no money when it comes to reducing the cruel living conditions, oppression and injustice suffered by millions of Palestinians.
The only Palestinian worthy of US and Israeli charity is their puppet dictator. The US and Israel are willing to spend millions to arm the unpopular dictator and rent him a small army of mercenaries so that he isn't killed by Palestinians.
Then there is all the tax money Israel collects from Palestinians and holds indefinitely. I believe Americans call that system "taxation without representation" and was one of the stated reason for American colonists to commit acts of terrorism against the British crown around 1776.
Israel cuts off Palestinian tax funds as relations hit new low - Middle East - World - The Independent
But the US apparently has no money when it comes to reducing the cruel living conditions, oppression and injustice suffered by millions of Palestinians.
You keep saying that. Without any proof.
I see you dropped the "Palestinians just get skinnier" BS, and ignored my post that tore a big hole in your silly lies.
That is why you garner nothing but contempt. You get proven wrong, yet you keep making the same claims. You make claims you can't support, on and on and on.
Why do you have such a problem understanding why you get treated so poorly?
Doesn't support your claim.
Nope, doesn't support your claim either.
After U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak intervened last month, $200 million for the Palestinian Authority was unfrozen. Fifty million of those funds was to go toward ongoing projects, and $150 million was pegged for Palestinian security services....Palestinian Authority leaders have been accused of being security agents for Israel. ... even though Palestinians have provided unprecedented cooperation on security, Israeli provocations continue. The Israelis have not stopped building settlements or expropriating Palestinian lands...
Why the Palestinians might reject U.S. aid - The Washington Post
So at least 3/4 of the aid goes towards Abbas security. Likely a significant amount of the money earmarked for "projects" end up in Abbas's pocket?
Why the Palestinians might reject U.S. aid - The Washington Post
So at least 3/4 of the aid goes towards Abbas security. Likely a significant amount of the money earmarked for "projects" end up in Abbas's pocket?
Conjecture EAO.
I see you're still ignoring post #85. Where I soundly disproved your silly claim that Palestinians are getting skinnier.
You can ignore it all you want. It only strengthens my assertions about you.
Rest assured, I'll continue to point out your serious lack of credibility on this topic, using that very fact.
Removed about 18 posts that consisted of personal attacks towards other members. I would also like to mention that calling other members a "fag" or "faggot" will NOT be tolerated. If I see those words used in that manner in the future, I will issue Infractions at the very least.