NSA collecting phone records of millions of Americans daily

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Just a bonehead.


But back to life, back to reality:

Piers Morgan Now Claims Obama 'Worse' Than George W. Bush


During Thursday night's edition of CNN's “Piers Morgan Tonight,” the liberal host harshly criticized President Barack Obama and his administration for allowing the National Security Agency to secretly obtain the telephone records of millions of Americans.​

While interviewing Senator Bernie Sanders, Morgan asked the socialist from Vermont if he believed Obama's actions on surveillance are “worse than anything George W. Bush did.”​

The CNN host led up to his question by quoting the editorial board of the New York Times, which stated on Thursday that the administration “has now lost all credibility on this issue.”​

Has what Barack Obama been doing -- and his administration -- not just with all these revelations in the last 24 hours, but also the IRS, going after AP and FOX News, and so on, has what he's been doing worse than anything George W. Bush did?​


Sanders took advantage of the opportunity to criticize the previous Republican president by stating:​

Well, I think Bush started the process, and what I had hoped, and I think millions of Americans had hoped, that Barack Obama, who knew something about constitutional law, would not only change Bush's policies in a number of ways but certainly with regard with civil liberties.​

“I think it's fair to say that many of us are deeply disappointed that he did not end many of those programs and provide a lot more transparency than he has,” the senator added.​

Morgan responded: “You could argue he was right to say he'd be different. He's worse!”
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I had to give you a negative for not only watching CNN but equally as moronic, watching and quoting Piers Morgan................
 
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I had to give you a negative for not only watching CNN but equally as moronic, watching and quoting Piers Morgan................
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Oh good. More childishness. That's something that's certainly in short supply around here.
 
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Oh good. More childishness. That's something that's certainly in short supply around here.
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Have you watched CNN in the last 10 years? Actually they went a different path starting with the OJ trial. They went away from reporting news to 'opinions' and the people on there are, well, the newest programm director they hired said they were 'going to compete with Fox'.

Say no more.......




Dear CNN, are you F***ing KIDDING ME?!?!


CNN Brings On Psychics To Tell Us What The Economy Will Be Like


mean, just listening to the "journalist" at CNN asking specific economic questions to people who predict the love fortunes for drunk college sorority girls, and then tell me with a straight face that we aren't two more brain damaging MTV reality shows away from Idiocracy, and then hold your sides while the toxins of this bull**** makes your eyes water as you watch this insipid attempt at News while the anchor lady looks seriously interested in the very serious "predictions" that the lady with the crystal ball is making. This is pathetic kabuki at best, or deliberate idiocy at worst.

At this point, CNN, I understand why Jon Stewart is relentless on you. You just deserve it. This is the laziest kind of infotainment I have ever stumbled across, and as an American media consumer, you should be ashamed of that. Why not just get a roulette wheel with different political platitudes on and spin it once every 10 minutes throughout the whole 24/7 news cycle, then you can go back to playing Farmville or Solitaire or whatever the hell you tell your bosses that you're doing 9 to 5 every day.


watch




http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/its-come-cnn-brings-psychics-tell-us-
 
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Doesn't seem to be top secret any more. :D

I wanna massacre the NSA. Not any of the rest of America, just the NSA. Oh, fer pete sakes, I forgot I'm a Canuck in Canada so the NSA probly aren't paying me any attention. Well, there goes my chances of getting their knickers in a knot. :/
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Does your provider have their server in the States? Yahoo, GMail?

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts...mbers_the_nsas_super_secret_spy_program_prism

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/06/07/the_prism_spin_war_has_begun
 
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We're pretty much done as far as having any privacy goes...............



Google patents new facial recognition technology


Google patents new facial recognition technology to let users unlock phones with a wink and a smile










 
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Check out AT&T after WW2 and how the info was monitored.
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In the 60s I worked for Northern Telecom as a draftsman. We set up switching systems for Ma Bell. Even then it was common knowledge that the phone systems were being used to spy on people.

tay said:
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I read an article back in the early 70s that was titled, "If You liked 1984, You will love 1973". It went on to show how much surveillance was going on and how it had surpassed anything Orwell could have imagined.
 
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Oh good. More childishness. That's something that's certainly in short supply around here.
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Lol...didn't notice that earlier...felt more like a 'pink' coming from her/him/whatever.

At any rate,

 
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Does your provider have their server in the States? Yahoo, GMail?

By the numbers: The NSA's super-secret spy program, PRISM | FP Passport

The PRISM spin war has begun | FP Passport
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Nope. Maybe I should switch to one. Maybe then I could have fun with the NSA Phobics. :D

Still no uniforms at the door. Sneaky buggers. Good thing I built a med-nuke-proof bunker, stocked it with comfy living quarters, escape routes, food, a small nuclear fusion power generator, tapped into underground water supplies, more weapons than the CAF, and trained loads of regular wildlife to give warnings of suspicious intruders, lined the bunker with electronically impenetrable shielding, have set a myriad of booby-traps around, etc. :D
 
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“I trust President Obama, but it’s a bad precedent because he won’t be president forever.”

Al Sharpton: I trust Obama on wiretapping, but he won't be president forever - YouTube



“But derp, we much… we must… and we will much… about… that… be derped.”


The dumbest man on cable news strikes again.
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As I mentioned it did not begin under Obama. He expanded it though. Same as he expanded Drone attacks- Same as he realized the Stan was a lost War. Same with Iraq.
And these programs such as Prism will only expand.
With data so cheap, easy to store, gadgets up the ring piece, your Grandchildren will have all their data stored.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/06/08/nsa-phone-records.html
 
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Cliffy said:
In the 60s I worked for Northern Telecom as a draftsman. We set up switching systems for Ma Bell. Even then it was common knowledge that the phone systems were being used to spy on people.


I read an article back in the early 70s that was titled, "If You liked 1984, You will love 1973". It went on to show how much surveillance was going on and how it had surpassed anything Orwell could have imagined.
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But that was spying on selective people not everyone who mentions certain words the computer algorithim picks out.

And let's not forget Bradley Manning, Assange or Gitmo which show us that nowadays you can be held forever without a court case just on the basis of suspicion.......




Why I'm boycotting US cloud tech - and you should too
'Not subject to American law' - the next desirable IT feature



They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." – Benjamin Franklin


Canadians, for I am one, are viewed by the world as timid and meek. We cheekily disagree but our ancestors have bled and died fighting for what they believed in, the same as anyone else's.

Many of those brave men and women sacrificed themselves for a dream given form by the American founding fathers. We have our own history – and we're damned proud of it, thank you very much – but the truth of the matter is that the entire Western world owes the very foundation of its modern beliefs to the US Constitution, in my opinion.

Our place in the world, our relationship with our nation, the role of our government, military, law enforcement and intelligence services were informed by the belief in an inalienable personal liberty that said "governments are beholden to their people". Many of the laws of not only Canada but most of the Western world can be traced back to these beliefs.

The definition of words changes over time, but when our ancestors died with the word freedom on their lips they did not mean "protection of material property and security theatre". They meant "the liberty of individuals to live the lives they choose free of interference". Look across dozens of nations and you will see a history of people fighting and dying for that same liberty, thousands of years before pen was put to paper to immortalise it. Liberty – ours and those of our loved ones – is not only worth dying for, it may well be one of the only things that is.



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NSA Prism: Why I'm boycotting US cloud tech - and you should too ? The Register
 
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Lawmakers rebut Obama's data defense



President Barack Obama’s chief defense of his administration’s wide-ranging data-gathering programs Friday: Congress authorized them, with “every member” well aware of the details.


Not so, say many members of Congress — Democrats and Republicans alike.


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Lawmakers rebut Obama's data defense - Reid J. Epstein - POLITICO.com

and of course...

Government likely to open criminal probe into NSA leaks: officials



(Reuters) - President Barack Obama's administration is likely to open a criminal investigation into the leaking of highly classified documents that revealed the secret surveillance of Americans' telephone and email traffic, U.S. officials said on Friday.








we'll show you!


Government likely to open criminal probe into NSA leaks: officials | Reuters
 
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So you're unhappy with the NSA spying on you? The EFF is an organization who helps fight for your rights.


https://www.eff.org/



As Obama defends counterterrorism tactics, he finds himself in Bush territory



http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/as-obama-defends-counterterrorism-tactics-he-finds-himself-in-bush-territory/2013/06/07/39bae3f6-cf82-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story.html?hpid=z1

Anyone remember Qwest?



We know what happened in the case of QWest before 9/11. They contacted the CEO/Chairman asking to wiretap all the customers.

After he consulted with Legal, he refused. As a result, NSA canceled a bunch of unrelated billion dollar contracts that QWest was the top bidder for. And then the DoJ targeted him and prosecuted him and put him in prison for insider trading -- on the theory that he knew of anticipated income from secret programs that QWest was planning for the government, while the public didn't because it was classified and he couldn't legally tell them, and then he bought or sold QWest stock knowing those things.

This CEO's name is Joseph P. Nacchio and TODAY he's still serving a trumped-up 6-year federal prison sentence today for quietly refusing an NSA demand to massively wiretap his customers.

This has ugly parallels with the Aaron Swartz case and with the federal persecution of hundreds of state-legal medical marijuana providers. In this case a corrupt federal prosecutor (is there any other kind?) did the dirty work of the NSA by performing an "ordinary, everyday" legal rape of an innocent person: find any of the half a dozen federal felonies that every person commits every day, and prosecute them for it. Not because their "crime" was terrible or
heinous. But because they didn't kowtow to some smiling bastard in an out-of-control agency.


http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_7230967?source=commented

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Nacchio
 
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The same folks who swindled American taxpayers in 2008 had already paved the way for all kinds on illicit activities when they scared us into thinking our Constitution was keeping them from doing their job of protecting us. Now you can see the facts for what they really are. We sit back and look while all this goes on under our nose. We asked for it and now we got more of what we don't need.
 
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How about when Bush was creating the Department of Strategic Information (intended to disseminate misinformation), also known as lies, then his Defense Secretary said they decided not to? (The liars club saying they wouldn't create a lying department). I'll bet there is so much **** going on right now the truth would be stranger than fiction.
 
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