Now Ray Lahey Down to Sleep, He Asks the Lord...
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Googling his name I see his history goes back decades. Mt Cashel..hiding evidence (or forgetting to report it) during subsequent investigations in the 90's...two brothers who reported him in the 80's. This appears more than a one-off situation.
So, you're saying the priesthood under its current configuration self-selects a different demographic than it would if it were open to married men or women. That's exactly what I've been saying. Thanks, Les! And now, your "Huh" is clarified.
Thanks again!
To a point. There are also male homosexual people drawn to YMCAs and other men's clubs, too. Likewise, lesbians probably prefer to go to women's clubs. But I doubt it is a conscious self-selection.
What this has to do with celibacy in the priesthood, pedophilia, ephebophilia, etc. is incidental. I doubt it goes beyond that.
What I think spade has proven is.....pedophiles in general population...approxamitley 4%...pedophils in Preisthood....2%
Homosexuals in general population 5%.....Homosexuals in Preisthood(by spades numbers) 48%.
Obviously, being hetrosexual makes you more likley to become a pedophile than being homosexual. I would like to thank Spade for bringing these facts forward and clearing up the myth that homosexuality l;eads to pedophilia, because obviously, the opposite is true.
Homosexuals in general population 5%.....Homosexuals in Preisthood(by spades numbers) 48%.
Obviously, being hetrosexual makes you more likley to become a pedophile than being homosexual. I would like to thank Spade for bringing these facts forward and clearing up the myth that homosexuality l;eads to pedophilia, because obviously, the opposite is true.
The opposite is true? Pedophilia leads to homosexuality?
Relax, I know what you meant. lol It just looked funny the way you put it.
So... pretty much EVERYone has explained the reasons there is a higher percentage of 'gay' priests, yet you still fail to provide any reasoned proof of what that has to do with paedophilia, other than to provide yet another link that alludes to the two being connected. Either put up with some numbers about gays being more prone to paedophilia, or stop with the links.
- LG
I think so, too. So that leaves any connection between being gay and sexually offensive a tenuous one at best.
Not me, although there is a term for a certain activity concerning people and "eating" that I do partake of at times.
It was you who mentioned steak, remember. lolAnd I can't think of BBQed priest steak as being tasty, anyway, racked or not. lol
Numbers (stats) collected cannot be trusted because of
1. Bias
2. Buying in to a certain political correctness
3 Dishonesty
Look, I said the current celibacy rules are "perhaps" part of the problem. And, there is a problem. For example, some quote as many as 10% of priests were named in the Boston Archdiocese. You explain it! All I am asking for is a honest dialogue. There is an obvious problem in the Church. You say it has nothing to do with homosexuality. That may be correct; but being overly defensive doesn't address the issue - root causes and a way out.
Catholics do not believe in homosexuality but they seem to have the most priests that have sex with little boys.
Does God agree with this?
Does God agree with this?
There is a problem in the church with cover-ups, transfers, and thus a form of enablement. There is a problem indeed. I simply disagree with your assertion that 'the problem' is celibacy. If you want to discuss changes and ways out, demanding transparency when such charges are brought forward seems much smarter than trying to change something that doesn't seem to have any significant effect statistically.
And if you think posters such as Les Gilbert are simply arguing with you to be dishonest or politically correct, then you might want to research his post history in regards to religion.