We see that in other societies - blood money is one aspect - as to humane punishment- that is a very broad brush to use.
Norway Build A Ward For Breivik
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We see that in other societies - blood money is one aspect - as to humane punishment- that is a very broad brush to use.
I was thinking more along the lines of Tort:
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Where people who suffer "tortious injury" are entitled to receive compensation for "damages", usually monetary, from the person or people responsible — or liable — for those injuries.
Tort - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Where people who suffer "tortious injury" are entitled to receive compensation for "damages", usually monetary, from the person or people responsible — or liable — for those injuries.
In the above statement you leave it to those families who has Sons, Daughters, Mothers, Fathers murdered. Now it has changed to what????? Tort- Oh really - perhaps you should read your links before posting them- It appears that when confronted with an off the wall philosophy then you backtrack or try to clarify- or change it - or reinterpret it in a much different way then it was presented.
I do not think anyone would buy Tort as you refer to for a mass murderer.
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In much of the common law world, the most prominent tort liability is negligence. If the injured party can prove that the person believed to have caused the injury acted negligently – that is, without taking reasonable care to avoid injuring others – tort law will allow compensation.
I just hope his incarceration mean no television and no internet.. so he can't revel in his infamy. Let him read, listen to music.. and socialize for an hour a day. After that let him think about his crime and all the young lives took. That's humane enough. And you can pretty well forget about 'rehabilitation'.. it will never be safe to let him out.
As for gun ownership in Scandinavia.. i think you'd find almost all of it is in the form of hunting rifles. Hunting is deeply engrained in northern lifestyles.. in Norway.. as in northern and rural areas of Canada.
As for gun ownership in Scandinavia.. i think you'd find almost all of it is in the form of hunting rifles. Hunting is deeply engrained in northern lifestyles.. in Norway.. as in northern and rural areas of Canada.
I listened to a norwegian fellow being interviewed this morning, explaining this situation, and although
we imagine him having a cushy soft life, he will never have any interaction with others, he will be in
a very small area that is only for him, he will have a computer, 'but' no internet, and he will not be
able to talk or mingle or workout or eat with anyone again.
I do feel that is very close to torture, so on with it, he won't bother anyone again, and he will be
given another five years each time his case comes up for review, so he will never get out of prison.
He won't hurt anyone again, but he will stay alive to think each day about how his day will go, and
live a life of a hermit.
we imagine him having a cushy soft life, he will never have any interaction with others, he will be in
a very small area that is only for him, he will have a computer, 'but' no internet, and he will not be
able to talk or mingle or workout or eat with anyone again.
I do feel that is very close to torture, so on with it, he won't bother anyone again, and he will be
given another five years each time his case comes up for review, so he will never get out of prison.
He won't hurt anyone again, but he will stay alive to think each day about how his day will go, and
live a life of a hermit.
Charlie Mason has it better.
To make things a real living hell, there should be a TV in his cell that plays nothing but Ellen 24/7
...in the O. J. Simpson murder trial, the jury was not convinced beyond reasonable doubt that O. J. Simpson had committed the crime of murder; but in a later civil trial, the jury in that case felt that there was sufficient evidence to meet the standard of preponderance of the evidence required to prove the tort of wrongful death.
Tort - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Tort - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I don't see it that way at all, MD. No society should deprive a criminal no matter how heinous the crime, of his right to humane conditions. Now putting the dude in a country club setting with all the perks..................that would upset everyone.
I had read an article that 20 years was the max- papers do not always get it right- I was also reading how people in the country were concerned about such a light sentence for mass murder. This part adds some clarity to those that commit such atrocities.
If he is not held in prison till he dies I would say that they would amend the law. They may even be contemplating that as we speak.
Norway shooter Breivik apologizes for not killing more than 77 people | News | National Post
The five-judge panel in the Oslo district court unanimously convicted Breivik, 33, of terrorism and premeditated murder and ordered him imprisoned for a period between 10 and 21 years, the maximum allowed under Norwegian law. Such sentences can be extended as long as an inmate is considered too dangerous to be released, and legal experts say Breivik will almost certainly spend the rest of his life in prison.
“He has killed 77 people, most of them youth, who were shot without mercy, face to face. The cruelty is unparalleled in Norwegian history,” Judge Arne Lyng said. “This means that the defendant even after serving 21 years in prison would be a very dangerous man.”
Humane condition yes,but not what some get,when a guy in jail got access to thing most people on minimum wage can't afford,it nullify the punishment.