North American Shale

hunboldt

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No mistaking your inputs champ... Tough to not to recognize Standard Oil as they were the first big monopoly to fall.

Maybe think about posting something that either an accurate reflection of what you really want to say or find an example to blame on Harper that isn't over 100 years old, m'kay?


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Nick Danger

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If you're going to try to base your opinion on what's being delivered to you, my suggestion is to consider a wide variety of publications from all sides of the argument.

It's a balancing act between the people who have the most to gain from drilling, and the people who have the most to lose from drilling. And often, the loud environmental lobby is not living in it, does not have much to lose from it, and stands everything to gain from telling you the sky is falling. Just as the oil companies have everything to gain from telling you nothing is wrong, ever.

What I find the most reliable source of info is the oilpatch workers. They're living in it. Hell they're being doused in it. They're more familiar with the geological formations, the chemicals, the casing, etc., than any of the loudmouths arguing the issue on tv.

Try hunting down trade publications for oil patch guys.

That pretty much makes the same point I made a couple of pages back, that trying to get a reasonable handle on an issue from a distance is a feat that has to be tempered with a hearty helping of judiciousness. A truly objective source is hard to come by one has to factor possible bias and limited information into the mix. Oil patch workers I would consider a potential source for technical information on subjects like extraction methods and materials used, but would hardly expect frank admissions from them on possible harmful aspects of their trade. By the way, in regards to "get bent", the comment I made was directed at one particular poster who is inclined to argue the person rather than the point, a strategy I don't generally use but one I am not completely incapable of. ;)
 

Nick Danger

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The closing lines says to do so to "comfort" people not because they weren't careful.

That's close. It says that in addition to ensuring a sustainable future for the industry smartening up will help restore public confidence. Just why public confidence has been lost is what we're discussing here isn't it?
 
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karrie

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but would hardly expect frank admissions from them on possible harmful aspects of their trade

I dare you to go tell the HS&E guys at any oil company, service company, rig company, or pipeline company, that they are not being frank about the harmful aspects of their trade. It's the entire job. You will hear more truth from them than you ever will on tv.

Please don't feed the troll, Karrie..

You're right, I should probably just put you on ignore.
 

hunboldt

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I dare you to go tell the HS&E guys at any oil company, service company, rig company, or pipeline company, that they are not being frank about the harmful aspects of their trade. It's the entire job. You will hear more truth from them than you ever will on tv.



You're right, I should probably just put you on ignore.

Good idea, HOn. NOT Buvvered at all.
 

Nick Danger

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I dare you to go tell the HS&E guys at any oil company, service company, rig company, or pipeline company, that they are not being frank about the harmful aspects of their trade. It's the entire job. You will hear more truth from them than you ever will on tv.

Like I said, I am ever mindful of possible bias from any source, it's just the way I am.
 

hunboldt

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That's close. It says that in addition to ensuring a sustainable future for the industry smartening up will help restore public confidence. Just why public confidence has been lost is what we're discussing here isn't it?


After Imperial oil lost its supreme court case on the Closed Calgary refinery site, Nick, the industry has adopted the practise of contracting out liabilities to Juniors and independent service companies.

It's a way of capping liability. On the plus side, it creates a lot more industry wide competition.
Bitter with the Better...
 

lone wolf

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Unlike yourself, I have responded directly to some comments from Nick(?) on the overall subject matter... How about you, other than referencing a company that hadn't been around for over 100 years and, of course, blame Harper and rail at the Conservatives.

Really man... Get over it
Harper type isn't Harper. You just proved you don't read. You derail with stupidity