Non-Coalition Coalition that’s Definitely NOT a Coalition…

Ron in Regina

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I have been trying to mentally sort out what the purchase price for Jagmeet Singh & the NDP Party will be on March 24th, when the Canadian Parliament is allowed to actually sit again due to a procurement bill….that Justin & the Libs will need passed, and I think I might’ve figured it out.

I was leaning towards Jagmeet Singh being thrown the bone of an ambassadorship to Britain or France…by the Libs before they’re shown the door, which would buy his loyalty, but not the rest of his party’s, so it just didn’t fit.

To purchase (rent, anyway) the loyalty of the rest of the NDP party…here’s my best guess at this point. It’s the election date.

If the election happens on before Oct 20th, 2025, then a whole pile of Libs & NDP MP’s that got elected in 2019, & are toast, they don’t get pension because they’ve missed the golden parachute date by one day!!!

At this point, I think the purchase price for NDP support of the Liberals on March 24th is extending the mandatory election date past October 20th 2025 far enough so that all the outgoing Liberal & NDP MP’s elected in 2019 we all get pensions that they wouldn’t otherwise get, indexed to inflation, for six years of service, for life!!!

I think that’s the price, and I think the deal is already made, and that’s what fits into Trudeau’s timing, so I don’t think we’re gonna see an election until after October 21st 2025 regardless of what the elections act states.
 

Ron in Regina

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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said Tuesday he is open to working with the Liberal government to pass relief measures for workers if U.S. President Donald Trump moves ahead with devastating tariffs on Canadian goods.

If the Liberal government needs a partner to get a bill through Parliament to help rescue a tariff-battered economy, Singh is willing to listen to what Ottawa is proposing, he said.
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"I will be voting against the government at the earliest opportunity? If the Liberals are serious, though, about a plan to support workers, call the opposition leaders together. Discuss that plan with us," he said.
Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet, conversely, ruled out supporting the Liberals.

He said it's a bad idea to give the Liberals any more time to get something done in Parliament because the promise of only a few extra days to pass emergency legislation could turn into something longer.

"If the Liberals want to help people, they should simply start the election sooner," he said.

Pressed to say clearly what he intends to do if the Liberals need a parliamentary dance partner to get potential relief legislation through the House of Commons, Singh said he wants to help workers.

Singh raised what the Liberal government did during the pandemic when it worked with the other parties to quickly pass relief at a time of national crisis.

"I think we need to have a discussion like we did during COVID to discuss how to support workers," he said.

The minority Liberal government didn't have to worry about falling on a confidence vote because it had the support of the other parties (= the NDP😉) to carry on through the health emergency.

A news report Tuesday quoting federal sources suggest that Ottawa is thinking along similar lines, with preparations for a multibillion-dollar pandemic style bailout for workers and businesses.
I have been trying to mentally sort out what the purchase price for Jagmeet Singh & the NDP Party will be on March 24th, when the Canadian Parliament is allowed to actually sit again due to a procurement bill….that Justin & the Libs will need passed…
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I have been trying to mentally sort out what the purchase price for Jagmeet Singh & the NDP Party will be on March 24th, when the Canadian Parliament is allowed to actually sit again due to a procurement bill….that Justin & the Libs will need passed, and I think I might’ve figured it out.
Removal from the international "no fly list".
 
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Ron in Regina

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….aaaand Trudeau “intends” to resign once the Liberals select a new leader, & make he/she/them/there the de facto PM. Coincidentally Jagmeet gets his pension.😉
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….aaaand Trudeau is out, except he’s not. He’s managed to suspend parliament, resign (sort of), appoint himself as interim leader, for the next several months, without parliamentary oversight…with Trump coming in…in 2 weeks…not four months from now. How much damage can this guy do in the next 1/3rd to 1/2 of a year as he’s written himself a blank cheque on Canadian…everything…
…& here we are.
 

Ron in Regina

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Surprise (not surprised)!!! With the NDP staring down some of the worst poll numbers in their history, leader Jagmeet Singh is suddenly walking back his pledge to bring down the Liberal government at the earliest opportunity.😳
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Following Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s prorogation of Parliament on Jan. 6, Singh repeatedly promised a lot of things including that as soon as the House of Commons reconvened on March 24, his first action would be to trigger an election with a vote of non confidence.😉

“I’ve been really clear, and I remain clear, and I appreciate the opportunity to repeat it. We will be voting to bring down the government at the earliest opportunity,” he told CTV on Jan. 20.

Singh was even more explicit at a public appearance in Sault Ste Marie, Ont., where he said, “We will be voting against the government when we return to Parliament at the end of March and there will be an election in the spring.”
But when the NDP leader was reminded of the pledge at a Parliament Hill press availability this week, he replied that an election can wait.🤥

This isn’t the first time that Singh has softened his promise to trigger a general election as soon as possible, although in earlier iterations the NDP leader has suggested that the House of Commons be convened earlier to pass a trade war relief package — after which they could stick with the plan of bringing down the Liberal government on March 24.

Singh’s comments this week are the first time he’s suggested that even upon the March 24 return of Parliament, he’ll continue propping up the minority Liberals for at least a little while…so little while enough for his party to try and rebuild itself? That kind of little while?

The NDP’s apparent about-face on the issue of an immediate non-confidence vote just happens to coincide with a series of polls showing that the party appears to be lurching towards their worst-ever showing in a general election.

With the announced probable departure of Trudeau and the coronation of Mark Carney as his replacement, the party has experienced a mild polling boost, almost entirely at the expense of the NDP. Whoopsies.

While this briefly made Carney a favourite to win the next general election, polls have now reverted back to predicting a scenario in which the Conservatives are poised to secure victory, if not a majority.

(The NDP party has only just finished paying off a $20 million loan it had to take out to contest the 2021 federal election, and as of last year the party barely had enough cash on hand to cover Singh’s travel expenses for a national campaign)
 

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I would call Jagmeet Singh horrible if i had to give it a name but he has a good game going knowing the influx of East Indian immigrants will all be supporters of his BS causes and eventually give him the votes he needs to transform Canada into his vision of working from home and being important. The more the merrier as far as he is concerned.

I still say regional representation works best
 

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I would call Jagmeet Singh horrible if i had to give it a name but he has a good game going knowing the influx of East Indian immigrants will all be supporters of his BS causes and eventually give him the votes he needs to transform Canada into his vision of working from home and being important. The more the merrier as far as he is concerned.

I still say regional representation works best
Not the Hindu’s .
 

Ron in Regina

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"When you go back to the moment where Jagmeet Singh decided to rip up the agreement with the Liberals, there was a need for a game plan to bring down the Trudeau government on your own terms," said Karl Bélanger, a former NDP national director. "You were in the driver's seat, and he let that slip away from him."
(YouTube & If you haven’t heard, Jagmeet Singh has ripped up his agreement with the Liberals)
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(Ironically, it’s now the Liberals that have plagiarized much of the Conservatives platform, but watered down, with caveats to ensure they’ll not have to actually implement them)

“So…how did hitching your wagon to the Liberals to keep them in power for years work out for you?” One of the arguments, Bélanger said, was that a seemingly inevitable Poilievre government was "something we must stop at all costs." The NDP had spent all its political capital on a deal that had propped up Trudeau's minority government, and it was not prepared to see its achievements vanish if the Conservatives took power.

That goal (of not only the NDP but also the Greens have shot them both in their feet) of stopping the Conservatives may now be realized, Bélanger said, but "it will be at the cost of New Democratic seats."
Sources say some NDP MPs feel threatened by their Conservative opponents in different regions of the country. They say they fear that their association with the Liberals will become a burden that could harm their chances of re-election — and they need a major win on drug coverage to boost their chances.
Singh’s also no longer the star of his party's message. The NDP is directing its resources toward fewer ridings than usual, running a targeted campaign that aims to save incumbents' seats and pick up more in urban battlegrounds. And in many of those crucial races, Singh is absent from campaign flyers and messaging.
Signed in 2022 in the aftermath of the so-called "Freedom Convoy" occupation of Ottawa, and as Canada shouldered the fallout of the COVID-19 pandemic, the non-coalition coalition that definitely was not a coalition-type coalition supply-and-confidence agreement Singh made with Trudeau ensured the Liberal minority government maintained the confidence of Parliament in exchange for progress on a number of shared priorities and magic beans.

But the agreement also drew the ire of New Democrats who were wary of appearing too cosy with the (toxically corrupt?) Liberals, especially amid a campaign by Poilievre's Conservatives to dub the unpopular government the "NDP-Liberal coalition," and brand Singh a "sellout" for supporting Trudeau.
 
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"When you go back to the moment where Jagmeet Singh decided to rip up the agreement with the Liberals, there was a need for a game plan to bring down the Trudeau government on your own terms," said Karl Bélanger, a former NDP national director. "You were in the driver's seat, and he let that slip away from him."
(YouTube & If you haven’t heard, Jagmeet Singh has ripped up his agreement with the Liberals)
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(Ironically, it’s now the Liberals that have plagiarized much of the Conservatives platform, but watered down, with caveats to ensure they’ll not have to actually implement them)

“So…how did hitching your wagon to the Liberals to keep them in power for years work out for you?” One of the arguments, Bélanger said, was that a seemingly inevitable Poilievre government was "something we must stop at all costs." The NDP had spent all its political capital on a deal that had propped up Trudeau's minority government, and it was not prepared to see its achievements vanish if the Conservatives took power.

That goal (of not only the NDP but also the Greens have shot them both in their feet) of stopping the Conservatives may now be realized, Bélanger said, but "it will be at the cost of New Democratic seats."

Singh’s also no longer the star of his party's message. The NDP is directing its resources toward fewer ridings than usual, running a targeted campaign that aims to save incumbents' seats and pick up more in urban battlegrounds. And in many of those crucial races, Singh is absent from campaign flyers and messaging.
Signed in 2022 in the aftermath of the so-called "Freedom Convoy" occupation of Ottawa, and as Canada shouldered the fallout of the COVID-19 pandemic, the non-coalition coalition that definitely was not a coalition-type coalition supply-and-confidence agreement Singh made with Trudeau ensured the Liberal minority government maintained the confidence of Parliament in exchange for progress on a number of shared priorities and magic beans.

But the agreement also drew the ire of New Democrats who were wary of appearing too cosy with the (toxically corrupt?) Liberals, especially amid a campaign by Poilievre's Conservatives to dub the unpopular government the "NDP-Liberal coalition," and brand Singh a "sellout" for supporting Trudeau.
Singh needs to go. He has nothing of value to provide Canadians because he sucks at his job. He needs to re-educate himself for another vocation that he MIGHT do better at. Politics isn't it.
 

Ron in Regina

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Singh needs to go. He has nothing of value to provide Canadians because he sucks at his job. He needs to re-educate himself for another vocation that he MIGHT do better at. Politics isn't it.
1745412024569.jpegI believe he’s a lawyer by trade, & I believe the NDP themselves will toss him as soon as they can after this next election.
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Ron in Regina

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If the NDP are not seen as the party of change and the aspirations of the hard up, they are failing. Under Singh, the NDP are so far from that after six years of supporting the Liberal government that Mark Carney, an elite central banker, is seen as a superior change candidate, & that’s beyond sad…

At the ballot box, Singh and the NDP will receive the body blow of all the frustrations with the Trudeau government. The failures of the past decade to build a wealthier and more just Canada has created a generation of the hopeless, and Singh’s NDP are its last visible vestige after Carney managed to convincingly set himself apart from Trudeau for millions of voters.

The English-language debate was probably the last time most Canadians will ever see or hear Singh on television. He spent most of it behaving like a newly elected student councillor, and attempting to talk over Poilievre. On social media and living rooms across Canada, Liberals and Conservatives were united in expressing their desire for Singh to simply go away.
Now that he’s dropped the fiction that he’s running for prime minister, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh is urging voters to elect New Democrat MPs to prevent a Liberal “super majority.”

The reason that argument is falling flat is that no one has contributed more to the prospect of a Liberal “super majority” than Singh.

He propped up the current Liberal minority government under former prime minister Justin Trudeau, through the non-coalition coalition that definitely wasn’t a coalition-type coalition supply and confidence agreement he signed with them in March 2022.

He continued that support right up to September 2024, despite the polls showing increasing disillusionment with the Liberals and growing support for a federal election.

To now argue (by the NDP/Liberals) it’s a bad idea to give the Liberal/NDP’s a big majority government, after he was in bed with them for two-and-a-half years, is absurd.
 
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