Non-Coalition Coalition that’s Definitely NOT a Coalition…
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And SURPRISE!!! (Not surprised) NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh on Wednesday ended any speculation his party would pull out of its deal with the minority Liberal government by finally agreeing to support the government's budget.
Phew!! Close call (not). Singh said his party wanted time to digest the document, which was tabled April 16, but is ultimately voting in favour of it because of shared initiatives that it proposes.
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh confirms his party will support the Liberals' federal budget — The Canadian Press
OTTAWA - NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh on Wednesday ended any speculation his party would pull out of its deal with the minority Liberal government by finally agreeing to support the government's budget.
Well golly Andy , surprise surprise surprise .And SURPRISE!!! (Not surprised) NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh on Wednesday ended any speculation his party would pull out of its deal with the minority Liberal government by finally agreeing to support the government's budget.
Phew!! Close call (not). Singh said his party wanted time to digest the document, which was tabled April 16, but is ultimately voting in favour of it because of shared initiatives that it proposes.
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh confirms his party will support the Liberals' federal budget — The Canadian Press
OTTAWA - NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh on Wednesday ended any speculation his party would pull out of its deal with the minority Liberal government by finally agreeing to support the government's budget.apple.news
You've convinced me that it's overwhelmingly likely the Tories will take Parliament in a tsunami.
What will they do with it? What are your priority issues? If this board is anything to go by, seems like outlawing anything and everything that hurts the feels of prairie farmboys would be Job 1.
What will they do with it? What are your priority issues? If this board is anything to go by, seems like outlawing anything and everything that hurts the feels of prairie farmboys would be Job 1.
Odds are good at this point, but an election is still a long ways away.
Not to oversimplify, but a reset of the pocketbook back towards (and then eventually to) living within our means, & the combination of factors to achieve that (increasing income while cutting expenses is what it boils down to). We’re so far down the rabbit hole of spending borrowed money that it needs to be reeled in before our peso is worth fifty cents on the dollar. Yes it’ll be painful and yes it needs to happen.
I'd rather have social unity than an extra $200 to eat high end steak with just my wife.
Based on his rhetoric, Canadians might think that Jagmeet Singh was a harsh critic of the Trudeau government — one who holds the Liberals to account. Yet, by his actions, Canadians who are paying attention will quickly realize that Singh has turned his party into a doormat for the Liberals to walk all over.
During the last couple of weeks, Singh has blasted the Trudeau Liberals as unable to fix the housing crisis, leaving disabled people in poverty, of favouring oil and gas CEOs over ordinary Canadians and failing Canadians on foreign interference.
You would think with a roster of complaints like that, the NDP would take the latest budget as a chance to vote down the Trudeau government. Instead, Singh and his party complained loudly, but tucked tail and announced they would support the budget while “fighting Liberal failures.”
Those Liberal failures have only been able to continue for the last two years due to the coalition the NDP formed with the Liberals in March 2022. Despite the Liberals missing several deadlines, despite failing to deliver on the promises of that agreement, Singh — with an eye on his pension — has chosen to keep propping up the Trudeau Liberals.
Better to sell out all principles and collect millions in future pension payments than stand up for what is right seems to be Singh’s mantra.
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I’m still trying to figure out what seat where Federally in Saskatchewan that is predicted to potentially vote Liberal in the next Federal election on Oct 27th, 2025 is located…
During the last couple of weeks, Singh has blasted the Trudeau Liberals as unable to fix the housing crisis, leaving disabled people in poverty, of favouring oil and gas CEOs over ordinary Canadians and failing Canadians on foreign interference.
You would think with a roster of complaints like that, the NDP would take the latest budget as a chance to vote down the Trudeau government. Instead, Singh and his party complained loudly, but tucked tail and announced they would support the budget while “fighting Liberal failures.”
Those Liberal failures have only been able to continue for the last two years due to the coalition the NDP formed with the Liberals in March 2022. Despite the Liberals missing several deadlines, despite failing to deliver on the promises of that agreement, Singh — with an eye on his pension — has chosen to keep propping up the Trudeau Liberals.
Better to sell out all principles and collect millions in future pension payments than stand up for what is right seems to be Singh’s mantra.
LILLEY: Scotland's Greens show Jagmeet Singh and the NDP how to act — Toronto Sun
Unlike the weak NDP, Scotland's Greens flexed their muscle in a minority to force change.
I’m still trying to figure out what seat where Federally in Saskatchewan that is predicted to potentially vote Liberal in the next Federal election on Oct 27th, 2025 is located…
Probably Moose Knuckle or Camel Toe or someplace like that.
Nothing like that but how about Elbow, Eyebrow or Climax?
Here it is, boiled down to a 30 second clip…
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…explaining why the Liberal/NDP non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition will endure to the bitter end regardless of any scandal or shenanigans on the part of Trudeau & his merry band of Libtards.
Jagmeet Singh is CRUSHED, then ADMITS he is Propping Up Trudeau #shorts
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With the Liberals deeply unpopular across the country, traditional wisdom would suggest the NDP should be surging as the traditional party of protest against the incumbent national government, whether it be Liberal or Conservative.
But because of Singh’s deal with Trudeau, many Canadians opposed to the Liberals logically see Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives as the real party of protest today.
Indeed, current polling shows the Conservatives are higher in popular support than the Liberals and NDP combined.
The latest numbers from polling aggregator 338Canada.com put Conservative support at 44%, three points higher than the combined support of the Liberals at 24% and the NDP, treading water, at 17%.
According to 338Canada.com seat projections, the NDP would be reduced to 19 seats if an election was held today, losing almost one quarter of the 25 ridings it won in 2021, in an expanded Parliament where 343 seats will be up for grabs in the 2025 election, compared to 338 today.
Singh has cried wolf so often about bringing down the Liberals if they don’t do what the NDP wants — before inevitably announcing he will support them on confidence matters such as the budget, where a defeat would bring down the government — that his political credibility has been shredded.
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(Make that Oct 27th, 2025)
But because of Singh’s deal with Trudeau, many Canadians opposed to the Liberals logically see Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives as the real party of protest today.
Indeed, current polling shows the Conservatives are higher in popular support than the Liberals and NDP combined.
The latest numbers from polling aggregator 338Canada.com put Conservative support at 44%, three points higher than the combined support of the Liberals at 24% and the NDP, treading water, at 17%.
According to 338Canada.com seat projections, the NDP would be reduced to 19 seats if an election was held today, losing almost one quarter of the 25 ridings it won in 2021, in an expanded Parliament where 343 seats will be up for grabs in the 2025 election, compared to 338 today.
Singh has cried wolf so often about bringing down the Liberals if they don’t do what the NDP wants — before inevitably announcing he will support them on confidence matters such as the budget, where a defeat would bring down the government — that his political credibility has been shredded.
EDITORIAL: Singh-Trudeau deal weakened the NDP — Toronto Sun
NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and his party must be having second thoughts about their “confidence and supply” agreement that keeps Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals in power until June 2025. With the Liberals deeply unpopular across the country, traditional wisdom would suggest the NDP...
It’s not April Fools’ Day and this isn’t from the Beaverton…I checked…both…The federal New Democrats want to amend the Liberal government's electoral reform legislation to scrap the proposal to push back the vote by a week and consequently secure pensions for dozens of MPs, CTV News has learned???
It is a perk of the date change NDP MP and the party's democratic institutions critic Lisa Marie Barron says "doesn't look good," (???) in the broader context of Canadians' cost of living concerns. Oh???
"I've had constituents and Canadians bring this to my attention (???), and I just want to make very clear that right now is not the time for members of Parliament to be thinking about their own financial gain," she said in an interview. "We want to make sure that we're very clear from the onset around the necessary amendments for us to move forward on this."
Stitched in to Bill C-65, the "Electoral Participation Act" – among a series of elections law reforms aimed at making it easier for Canadians to vote and harder for bad actors to meddle – the Liberals are trying to move the 2025 fixed Oct. 20 election date to the following Monday, Oct. 27….so…the NDP might hold steady at 18% on average election after election, but will be absolutely decimated if they support this date change to Oct 27th, 2025? Is that what I’m hearing?
When Democratic Institutions Minister Dominic LeBlanc tabled the bill in March, the Liberals said this proposed date change was to ensure election day did not conflict with Diwali, a widely-celebrated religious holiday that also falls on Oct. 20 next year…which absolutely nobody believes.
But, it quickly became clear that a knock-on advantage of moving voting day by a week, would be securing lucrative pensions for a slate of MPs that otherwise wouldn't have qualified if the vote was held one week sooner and had they lost their seats.
80 MPs stand to benefit…which is very misleading because the conservatives aren’t gonna lose very many seats if any at all…so it only benefits Liberal/NDP & NDP/Liberals…Bloc, etc…
That's because MPs need to serve for at least six years in order to qualify for a pension upon retirement, and for the 80 MPs who were first elected on Oct. 21, 2019, if they were to be defeated on Oct. 20, 2025 they'd just miss that six year mark and instead only qualify for a one-time severance allowance.
Under the Canada Elections Act, federal votes must be held on the third Monday in October four years after the previous election. With this bill, the Liberals are seeking a one-time carve-out to that rule.
Should Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's minority government fall anytime before then, & pigs fly, etc…forcing an earlier election than the fixed date, these MPs would also be out of luck.
In a March interview on The Alex Pierson Show, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said he opposed delaying the fixed election date, and vowed to vote against it.
"I'm not good with the changes. I agree that the election shouldn't be on holiday for millions of Canadians. However, the answer to that is move the election forward," he said. "Of course it's not about Diwali, they want to get their pensions."
There are 22 Liberal MPs, 19 Bloc Quebecois MPs— more than half their caucus— and six NDP MPs elected in 2019 who would be among those standing to secure pensions if they were defeated in 2025.
Barron, elected in 2021, is not one of them. Neither is NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh as he secured his seat in a 2019 federal byelection months before the general election.
Liberals didn't mention pension perk…
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In many respects, Bill C-65 was a co-production with the NDP, as tied into the two-party supply-and-confidence pact was a pledge to advance electoral reform measures to expand "the ability for people to vote."
It is a perk of the date change NDP MP and the party's democratic institutions critic Lisa Marie Barron says "doesn't look good," (???) in the broader context of Canadians' cost of living concerns. Oh???
"I've had constituents and Canadians bring this to my attention (???), and I just want to make very clear that right now is not the time for members of Parliament to be thinking about their own financial gain," she said in an interview. "We want to make sure that we're very clear from the onset around the necessary amendments for us to move forward on this."
Stitched in to Bill C-65, the "Electoral Participation Act" – among a series of elections law reforms aimed at making it easier for Canadians to vote and harder for bad actors to meddle – the Liberals are trying to move the 2025 fixed Oct. 20 election date to the following Monday, Oct. 27….so…the NDP might hold steady at 18% on average election after election, but will be absolutely decimated if they support this date change to Oct 27th, 2025? Is that what I’m hearing?
When Democratic Institutions Minister Dominic LeBlanc tabled the bill in March, the Liberals said this proposed date change was to ensure election day did not conflict with Diwali, a widely-celebrated religious holiday that also falls on Oct. 20 next year…which absolutely nobody believes.
But, it quickly became clear that a knock-on advantage of moving voting day by a week, would be securing lucrative pensions for a slate of MPs that otherwise wouldn't have qualified if the vote was held one week sooner and had they lost their seats.
80 MPs stand to benefit…which is very misleading because the conservatives aren’t gonna lose very many seats if any at all…so it only benefits Liberal/NDP & NDP/Liberals…Bloc, etc…
That's because MPs need to serve for at least six years in order to qualify for a pension upon retirement, and for the 80 MPs who were first elected on Oct. 21, 2019, if they were to be defeated on Oct. 20, 2025 they'd just miss that six year mark and instead only qualify for a one-time severance allowance.
Under the Canada Elections Act, federal votes must be held on the third Monday in October four years after the previous election. With this bill, the Liberals are seeking a one-time carve-out to that rule.
Should Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's minority government fall anytime before then, & pigs fly, etc…forcing an earlier election than the fixed date, these MPs would also be out of luck.
In a March interview on The Alex Pierson Show, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said he opposed delaying the fixed election date, and vowed to vote against it.
"I'm not good with the changes. I agree that the election shouldn't be on holiday for millions of Canadians. However, the answer to that is move the election forward," he said. "Of course it's not about Diwali, they want to get their pensions."
There are 22 Liberal MPs, 19 Bloc Quebecois MPs— more than half their caucus— and six NDP MPs elected in 2019 who would be among those standing to secure pensions if they were defeated in 2025.
Barron, elected in 2021, is not one of them. Neither is NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh as he secured his seat in a 2019 federal byelection months before the general election.
Liberals didn't mention pension perk…
NDP wants Liberals to scrap proposed election date change that could secure pensions for many MPs — CTV News
The federal New Democrats want to amend the Liberal government's electoral reform legislation to scrap the proposal to push back the vote by a week and consequently secure pensions for dozens of MPs, CTV News has learned.
The Trudeau Liberals’ plan to pick the pockets of Canadians of up to $120 million to give 80 newbie MPs a lifetime pension is unravelling.
The NDP is so disgusted by the shady arrangement to give MPs the sweetheart deal that they want to scrap the proposal put forward by the senior partner in their parliamentary pact.
The question now is whether Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will reverse course — something he is not good at — or fight to keep the dodgy deal to line 80 MPs pockets at a time when Canadians are finding it hard to buy groceries and pay rent.
The Liberal machinations around this pension payout have verged on the nefarious from the outset; not so much the whiff of financial impropriety more a pungent, foul-smelling odour.
The mechanism to achieve the possible windfall was hidden in an election bill and the NDP, we now discover, were not even aware of the Liberals’ true purpose. Huh?????? Wow…
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Of the 80 MPs, 32 are Conservative (whom this really doesn’t affect because they’re pretty much all gonna get reelected), 22 Liberal, 20 are from the Bloc and six are NDP.
However, current voting intentions around a federal election, if reflected next year, would see many Liberal seats disappearing. So the newbie Liberals have more skin in the game when it comes to pensions.
The NDP is so disgusted by the shady arrangement to give MPs the sweetheart deal that they want to scrap the proposal put forward by the senior partner in their parliamentary pact.
The question now is whether Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will reverse course — something he is not good at — or fight to keep the dodgy deal to line 80 MPs pockets at a time when Canadians are finding it hard to buy groceries and pay rent.
The Liberal machinations around this pension payout have verged on the nefarious from the outset; not so much the whiff of financial impropriety more a pungent, foul-smelling odour.
The mechanism to achieve the possible windfall was hidden in an election bill and the NDP, we now discover, were not even aware of the Liberals’ true purpose. Huh?????? Wow…
Michael Higgins: The Liberals’ secretive pension bonanza all too typical — National Post
The NDP comes out against delaying 2025 election by a day to secure pensions
However, current voting intentions around a federal election, if reflected next year, would see many Liberal seats disappearing. So the newbie Liberals have more skin in the game when it comes to pensions.
NDP has a shot as opposition if they ditch the pact.The Trudeau Liberals’ plan to pick the pockets of Canadians of up to $120 million to give 80 newbie MPs a lifetime pension is unravelling.
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The NDP is so disgusted by the shady arrangement to give MPs the sweetheart deal that they want to scrap the proposal put forward by the senior partner in their parliamentary pact.
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The question now is whether Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will reverse course — something he is not good at — or fight to keep the dodgy deal to line 80 MPs pockets at a time when Canadians are finding it hard to buy groceries and pay rent.
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The Liberal machinations around this pension payout have verged on the nefarious from the outset; not so much the whiff of financial impropriety more a pungent, foul-smelling odour.
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The mechanism to achieve the possible windfall was hidden in an election bill and the NDP, we now discover, were not even aware of the Liberals’ true purpose. Huh?????? Wow…
Of the 80 MPs, 32 are Conservative (whom this really doesn’t affect because they’re pretty much all gonna get reelected), 22 Liberal, 20 are from the Bloc and six are NDP.Michael Higgins: The Liberals’ secretive pension bonanza all too typical — National Post
The NDP comes out against delaying 2025 election by a day to secure pensions
However, current voting intentions around a federal election, if reflected next year, would see many Liberal seats disappearing. So the newbie Liberals have more skin in the game when it comes to pensions.
I’m betting that the opposition might very well be the Bloc. It’s a little late for the NDP to pretend that they’re not in bed with the Liberals since pre-Ottawa parking situation that was saved by the bell for the government by Putin invading Ukraine…
If the NDP ditches the non-coalition coalition that’s definitely not a coalition-type coalition…it will survive being decimated, but will still hover in the 15-18% range is my best guess, which is the best that they can hope for.
I've been noticing the Ontario number of Tory seats declining slightly on your polls. The last shows 81. Earlier you showed 88. I saw a poll on Twitter that showed 88 and the NDP getting more seats than the Liberals. I forget which pollster.
Voter intentions… if the election was gonna happen today… but it probably won’t for another 12 to 17 months. It just kinda gives a rough idea of a finger on the pulse sort of thing.
It’s going up and down for each party somewhat… but it’s good to look at trends over the long term. The conservatives have been way out in front since last summer as far as a trend goes.