Noam Chomsky: “The United States created ISIS.”

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darkbeaver said:
Yes, that is the popular history, easily discounted by some alternative reading. You're a bit of a romantic aren't you?
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The fact that I actually am a romantic, aside. Any alternative reading requires you to believe in alternative history and alternative forms of fact gathering, that leave a lot to bedesired.

They fight them exactly like they used to. The art of war ain't new.
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That's base and silly, and though not altogether untrue, the way we fight wars now, has changed quite a bit since SunTzu put ink to paper.

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Oh c'mon ; Bear said they don't so they don't How dare you hold a differing opinion ?
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Now Nuggy, there's no need to start fights that will only end in you being angry and looking silly.
 
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There is a lot of truth going round in many aspects of this thread. First the headline is inflammatory
it suggest that America or the West set up shop for ISIS directly. Not true. They did however set the
stage for ISIS to operate in a vacuum as taking out Saddam and attacking Syria through rebels did
contribute to the strength of ISIS,
In addition to this Obama does have to take some responsibility for the current state of Iraq. America
did not finish the job that should never have been started in the first place Once done the occupation
had to continue.
The current situation is a mere escalation as a preview to sending boots on the ground that will come
because air alone will not do it. America and her allies will proceed slowly allowing the various factions
to weaken themselves to serve as to control the situation down the road. In any event this will be a long
and bitter struggle which will result in problems both overseas and here at home. As soon as boots on
the ground come to play we will see limited violence here and how we handle it will determine the
level. There is no doubt at all we are at war like it or not and regardless of what party you support in
the USA or Canada.
 
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CDNBear said:
Can we merge this will the ISIS threads already in progress?
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No, your ISIS threads were meant to be a joke. This guy has some facts and due to the number that are dead already and will die before it is over it deserves a spot that is not a joke. Now you have to contribute something with some worth or be the most visible troll on the planet.
 
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Hey Sal...

Your pet project got off his leash. Maybe if you kept it under control, he wouldn't get whacked with the rolled up news paper so often.
 
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damngrumpy said:
There is a lot of truth going round in many aspects of this thread. First the headline is inflammatory
it suggest that America or the West set up shop for ISIS directly. Not true. .
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Rather than your opinion do you have some documented facts to back it up.
ISIS was trained and they got military equipment from Jordan, Jordan is Israeli/USA territory. Just before ISIS went mainstream Israel was doing strikes inside Syria to support those same rebels. (not that the campaign did what it was supposed to do)
 
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Meh, I just really wish Sal would clean her pet projects litter box, so we don't have to hear hers or anyone elses whining when it gets smacked on the nose.
 
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Floor drain


Backflow/cleanout port



One would think somebody claiming to be a millwright would know the difference between the two.
 
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MHz said:
Floor drain


Backflow/cleanout port



One would think somebody claiming to be a millwright would know the difference between the two.
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First, I never claimed to be a millwright.....you just assumed that


Next you bloody dingbat.....read what you post before posting it....
Let me give you a little hint dummy....right click on that picture you claim to be a clean-out then click on properties and tell me what it says.....then go hang your head in shame....you loon...............
 
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MHz said:
Floor drain


Backflow/cleanout port



One would think somebody claiming to be a millwright would know the difference between the two.
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yup, the second one is a back flow. Notice the angled access. Also note that it is all plastic, not cast. Need I say more, no, I don't think so. Once again, proving your ignorance.

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First, I never claimed to be a millwright.....you just assumed that


Next you bloody dingbat.....read what you post before posting it....
Let me give you a little hint dummy....right click on that picture you claim to be a clean-out then click on properties and tell me what it says.....then go hang your head in shame....you loon...............
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Das, he's an idiot, he just keeps proving it over and over again. Yes, the pic you posted is a clean out. It is the conventional. Most cleanouts are at the bottom of the stack to give easy access to the main. Not all houses have a back flow. Newer houses, yes. Older houses, no. We install back flows all the time on older houses. It is NOW a code requirement. It was not in the past. The angled port on the top of the back flow is a clean out. It is required so that you can auger the main without having to try and auger through the back flow and possibly get your auger stuck. Houses that do not have back flows, and I will bet the house that dumbdumb lived in didn't have a backflow will have clean outs(note the plural) in different places possibly. Including, but not limited to, the bottom of the stack and in the main, possibly buried in the floor. These clean outs can be a straight T but should be a Y angled towards the downstream side.
 
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No gerr you just showed your ignorance again and followed it up with a lie.

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I have reviewed your email and a couple things come to mind. It looks to me that the picture is of a backwater valve. We have found that these old cast backwater valves can be tough to repair. Lots of times the bolts will break off and the o-ring under the cap is hard and deformed. If the bolts are still good you may be able to get a new o-ring to create an air/water tight seal. If the bolts are broken you could try to drill them out and/or retap them. It is sometimes easier to just replace the backwater valve and install a new one. It should be sealed to prevent sewer gas from escaping even though it may only be a negligible amount. At the very least it could be silicone to keep the gases out. There are some test procedures in the plumbing code but they are for new construction ( section 2.3.6). I have not heard back yet from the building inspector but for the most part they patrol the new construction. If you have more questions please feel free to email or call me back.

Bruins Plumbing & Heating Ltd.

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gerryh said:
yup, the second one is a back flow. Notice the angled access. Also note that it is all plastic, not cast. Need I say more, no, I don't think so. Once again, proving your ignorance.




Das, he's an idiot, he just keeps proving it over and over again. Yes, the pic you posted is a clean out. It is the conventional. Most cleanouts are at the bottom of the stack to give easy access to the main. Not all houses have a back flow. Newer houses, yes. Older houses, no. We install back flows all the time on older houses. It is NOW a code requirement. It was not in the past. The angled port on the top of the back flow is a clean out. It is required so that you can auger the main without having to try and auger through the back flow and possibly get your auger stuck. Houses that do not have back flows, and I will bet the house that dumbdumb lived in didn't have a backflow will have clean outs(note the plural) in different places possibly. Including, but not limited to, the bottom of the stack and in the main, possibly buried in the floor. These clean outs can be a straight T but should be a Y angled towards the downstream side.
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I inquired about putting a backflow valve just for the basement drains and the washing machine since all the other drains in the house are upstairs and flow into that six incher in my previous picture. It would save me a few bucks in house insurance. The local shop that I asked for an estimate says that where I live on high ground, I really don't need it, and the cost of chipping the cement to get at the floor drain line going to the main and installing one would take years to be offset by the insurance saving
 
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