No Distinction - Same Gospel

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But please honour and respect those who chose another path.

Cliffy, when only one version ends up being the correct one you should be payiong attention to what others are saying rather than you get in your 2 cebts and the rest of the conversation is noise that hurts your ears.

Paul acknowledges the Athenian religion and culture, incorporating them into his presentation:
"Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: 'People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious. For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: 'TO AN UNKNOWN GOD." (Acts 17:22-23 NIV)

Why is the part where he uses that to turn the crowd into Christians left out in that Bible. Little sneaky but and excellent move overall. "Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you."

Paul cites the Cretan philosopher Epimenides and the Cilician Stoic philosopher Aratus in his message:
"For in him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring." (Acts 17:28 NIV)

In this encounter, we witness the honor and respect the apostle Paul gives to his first century audience.

The Bibles isn't a book of poems, it is a book full of instructions. Poorly understood at this time is just what the book predicts. The verse below is about Judgement Day rather than the day of return. God celebrates salvation when the last one is brought in rather than a few who blindly make into the first group. (as grace alone makes that possible)

Ac:17:31:
Because he hath appointed a day,
in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained;
whereof he hath given assurance unto all men,
in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Heb:12:22: But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb:12:23-29:
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,
and to the blood of sprinkling,
that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
See that ye refuse not him that speaketh.
For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth,
much more shall not we escape,
if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
Whose voice then shook the earth:
but now he hath promised,
saying,
Yet once more I shake not the earth only,
but also heaven.
And this word,
Yet once more,
signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken,
as of things that are made,
that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved,
let us have grace,
whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
For our God is a consuming fire.

 

[Ludlow]

you know it's as if ya think no one has ever read this before.

 

[DaSleeper]

you know it's as if ya think no one has ever read this before.

What we need is a couple dozen zebras in this dumb thread!

 

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Are Peter, James and Paul preaching the same gospel? Why or why not?

Same Gospel even though they didn't meet face to face until some time after the 2 events in Acts:10. When they did it was for 2 weeks and the one thing they were in conflict was as minor as you can get and still call it a conflict. Paul would have had the original copies of the 4 books that make up a single Gospel (as all are slightly different) as he could read Greek because of his travels.
The writers of those 4 books got their language skills in Act:2 which was very soon after the cross.
Is the message the same as the one given to Moses, no unless it topic is only about the 10 Commandments as they are preserved word for word until the day of the return when the Law changes to the one that used to judge the world in sin before Noah's flood.

The variance is there because the words are meant for 2 different groups. The 12 Tribes were given a set of instructions to follow once the exodus from Egypt was factual. The role of the 12 Tribes was to establish the conditions that would enable the completion of all things to do with the bruise to the heel that is mentioned in Ge:3:15. The list in the 70 weeks chapter in Daniel is also about that same verse as it the words, 'It is finished.' moments before Jesus died on the cross. (glorification would have given him the knowledge that is in Proverbs:8 so the 40 days after the cross were as a Judge rather than High Priest).

Acts:10 contains two events that Peter was the first to know about. The lifting of the diet laws included all the other laws from that same book and feeding the poor was the replacement. The Gentiles preached to would have been the same set of instruction Moses was tasked with but the group the words are for are not the 12 Tribes, it is for the Gentiles as they are the people that are affected by the events that are associated with the 2nd bruise mentioned in Ge:3:15. That bruise is completed when Christ pours out the last vial in Re:16. The rest of it takes some reading and thinking so I'll stop here for now.

After Stephen was killed it was only the Apostles left in Jerusalem and the other Christians would have migrated away from Judea so that when 70AD came around there were no Christians left in the area. James starts off mentioning the scattering so his words are for Gentiles and the instruction are what you should be doing to get through the trumps with your skin attached, skin of your teeth kind of close.

What we need is a couple dozen zebras in this dumb thread!

The stripes you will get will be enough for you. (fewer stripes and God certainly hasn't claimed you yet) The only tears at that event will be yours.

Lu:12:48:
But he that knew not,
and did commit things worthy of stripes,
shall be beaten with few stripes.
For unto whomsoever much is given,
of him shall be much required:
and to whom men have committed much,
of him they will ask the more.

 

[DaSleeper]

 

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Are Peter, James and Paul preaching the same gospel?

Yes, same gospel in culturally-relevant form for different audiences.

"For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles." (Galatians 2:8 NIV)

Why or why not?

Same message from the same Source.

"Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you." (Galatians 3:8 NIV)

 

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Yes, same gospel in culturally-relevant form for different audiences.

"For God, who was at work in Peter as an apostle to the circumcised, was also at work in me as an apostle to the Gentiles." (Galatians 2:8 NIV)

The prophecy and fulfillment of 'that change' for Peter was in Acts:10 when the vision said not to question who came to the door as they were there under inspiration from God already. The 'divine part' is they both recieved the same instructions while never having 'met'. The messages to the Gentiles from Paul would have been the letters to the Congregations as it takes all of them before you have the 'whole set'.

M't:26:53-56:
Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father,
and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled,
that thus it must be?
In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes,
Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me?
I sat daily with you teaching in the temple,
and ye laid no hold on me.
But all this was done,
that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled.
Then all the disciples forsook him,
and fled.


Zec:13:7-9:
Awake,
O sword,
against my shepherd,
and against the man that is my fellow,
saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd,
and the sheep shall be scattered:
and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them:
I will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.

The 2/3 that dies suffer the punishment below during their transition from followers of Satan to openly mocking him (from a safe distance). Those people stay in place until the GWT event and then they are resurrected to life without any possibility of falling into sin. For the ones that are alive for that same period there is a 'test' at the end and if you fail you would be sent to the fiery lake with the fallen angels. That is the difference between the punishment for sin for beings of the 1st birth and those who have had the 2nd birth.

Same message from the same Source.

"Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you." (Galatians 3:8 NIV)

I'm pretty sure 'arm' is meant to be strength as in Moses like powers being 'common'.

Isa:40:14-17:
With whom took he counsel,
and who instructed him,
and taught him in the path of judgment,
and taught him knowledge,
and shewed to him the way of understanding?
Behold,
the nations are as a drop of a bucket,
and are counted as the small dust of the balance:
behold,
he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.
And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn,
nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering.
All nations before him are as nothing;
and they are counted to him less than nothing,
and vanity.

Isa:66:18:
For I know their works and their thoughts:
it shall come,
that I will gather all nations and tongues;
and they shall come,
and see my glory.

The most important bruise of the two bruises from Ge:3:15 was the bruise to the heel just because it was the 1st one to be completed and it was the 'hardest one' so the completion of the last bruise is more like e celebration for perfected beings. Men get to join those same ranks and the 1,000 years is the 'schooling part'.

The era that was the completion of the heel bruise had Jesus as the main character before that day came about, during the same length of time Satan will be the main character in the 3 1/2 years before that bruise is a done deal. Satan is in chains in the Pit just outside the gates of hell. The Beast from the Pit that is released from there will be sent to the fiery lake because it has already been to the 'prison'. That works out best for understanding the determination that is pronounced in the nations part of Matt:25. All the people in the grave and awake and all the people on the land that are alive will fulfill these verses for the full duration of the 1,000 year reign. After the GWT event those people will be in the same condition as the people who lived for the 1,000 year reign, saved but with no understanding about the Kingdom of God.

M't:18:2-5:
And Jesus called a little child unto him,
and set him in the midst of them,
And said,
Verily I say unto you,
Except ye be converted,
and become as little children,
ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child,
the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

Heb:5:12-13:
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers,
ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God;
and are become such as have need of milk,
and not of strong meat.
For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness:
for he is a babe.

1Pe:2:2:
As newborn babes,
desire the sincere milk of the word,
that ye may grow thereby:

Isa:65:13-15:
Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD,
Behold,
my servants shall eat,
but ye shall be hungry:
behold,
my servants shall drink,
but ye shall be thirsty:
behold,
my servants shall rejoice,
but ye shall be ashamed:
Behold,
my servants shall sing for joy of heart,
but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart,
and shall howl for vexation of spirit.
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:

 

[Motar]

"Even now my witness is in heaven; my Advocate is on high." (Job 16:19 NIV)

 

[B00Mer]

What we need is a couple dozen zebras in this dumb thread!

It's the Motar and MegaButtHurtz Circle Jerk Thread..

At least they are now contained...

 

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So saith the infiltrator

"Even now my witness is in heaven; my Advocate is on high." (Job 16:19 NIV)

Heb:12:1: Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Heb:12:4-13:
Ye have not yet resisted unto blood,
striving against sin.
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children,
My son,
despise not thou the chastening of the Lord,
nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth,
and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening,
God dealeth with you as with sons;
for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement,
whereof all are partakers,
then are ye bastards,
and not sons.
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us,
and we gave them reverence:
shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits,
and live?
For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure;
but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous,
but grievous:
nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down,
and the feeble knees;
And make straight paths for your feet,
lest that which is lame be turned out of the way;
but let it rather be healed.


Brother Boomer, BB for short from now on, I feel the desire to renovate Reservations by the homeless so the Indians know what they are turning down. Let alone all the cars that are now running thanks to a new set of spark-plugs. Hobos are good at tinkering, amd picking tunes.

Isa:65:16-19:
That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth;
and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth;
because the former troubles are forgotten,
and because they are hid from mine eyes.
For,
behold,
I create new heavens and a new earth:
and the former shall not be remembered,
nor come into mind.
But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create:
for,
behold,
I create Jerusalem a rejoicing,
and her people a joy.
And I will rejoice in Jerusalem,
and joy in my people:
and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her,
nor the voice of crying.

Isa:65:22-23:
They shall not build,
and another inhabit;
they shall not plant,
and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people,
and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
They shall not labour in vain,
nor bring forth for trouble;
for they are the seed of the blessed of the LORD,
and their offspring with them.
And it shall come to pass,
that before they call,
I will answer;
and while they are yet speaking,
I will hear.
The wolf and the lamb shall feed together,
and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock:
and dust shall be the serpent's meat.
They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain,
saith the LORD.

BB, the verses I lefty out is about the time between conception and getting a glorified body, immortality is but one of the gifts waiting behind door #2.

BB, skill testing question #1. When I say 'peace unto your house' that is a blessing is it not? The correct answer is 'not' because it is said on the way into a house rather than when leaving it. When leaving your place, for example purposes only, what if I knocked the dust off my boots instead?
I'm thinking it would have been better not to open the door as you never know what petitions have been said in your name.

M'r:6:11:
And whosoever shall not receive you,
nor hear you,
when ye depart thence,
shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them.
Verily I say unto you,
It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment,
than for that city.

A person can be turned in the time leading up to the sound of the 7th trump, after that mercy at the GWT is their passport into the new and perfected earth where life is actually worth living for all concerned. On the other hand some can get protection because of persecution. The strongest measure would come if you were a sinner when that trump sounded.
The Christian should be able to 'get away' by what would normally be considered to be a fluke rather than by skill equal to Moriarty .

 

[Motar]

Heb:12:1: Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Yes, let us...

"For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?" (1 Peter 4:17 NIV)

 

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If the repented Gentiles are the ones that survive the 7 vials of wrath and they have a period of 42 months in which more can join (compared to ones dropping out) to make that final number.
There should be 7 Angels acting as heads of the 7 Churches that would be helping people with a 'bad relationship' transition over to the other side of the isle and that would get you a position as being a witness to what that destruction looks likes as the 'remnant in Zec:14 is the Church. The 12 Tribes are in their Promised Land going back to Abraham's sons. There will be 1,000 feasts of the Tabernacles before Satan is released for his execution.
One thing they have in common is they are all single as no one in that period of time is given in marriage and that has two aspects. Going from a believer to a perfected man is the key to remaining alive when Satan is being sent to the fiery lake. Their place in the new earth is to reside inside of New Jerusalem and they also have a static population in the City or over eternity they would out grow it. The population that does grow in the new earth is the ones that live outside the City will be the ones that have children.

God gave Eve's children 120 years before they would face judgment in Ge:6 and Moses was the first man to die so he didn't reach that age as he was a sinner. Death cleansed that sin from him so when resurrected he get a glorified body.

The verses in Isa:65 that deal with age goes like this. A child is born as an eternal being so they are equal to Adam in the Garden. They need to eat food to remain alive. From 0-20 years they are called an infant and at 20 the infant title dies and is replaced by the term Child (of God) and over the next 100 year they operate like adults today so they marry and have 100 children in that 100 years. 20-120 is 100 years and a sinner of a 100 years in those verses means those are the years that a person is judged on and in a perfected earth anybody would be found to be sinless. That is when the child title dies and 'old man' is the new title and that last for eternity. Immortality is remaining alive without any need for food and with this universe being the new earth that would be needed before you could go exploring.

The ones that leave earth to get to the GWT without death being part of the deal are in this verse.

Isa:51:6:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.

 

[Ludlow]

whar de wildebeests

 

[Cliffy]

whar de wildebeests

feel better now?

 

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In other news, . . .Israeli MP publicly tears Christian New Testament to pieces - Intifada Palestine

He probably is unaware that the Gospel of John and Revelation are attributed to John the Baptist, the last Prophet called by God in the same manner as Moses and all other OT Prophets. Those 2 books alone make reading Daniel a whole lot easier and they are struggling with the whole OT when it comes to supplying specifics. The prophecy about the beggar Lazarus and the Rich Man would mean the man in the link would have just bought himself some time in hell. The 12 Tribes come out of death on the day the 7th trump sounds and the 144,000 are the only ones that don't enter the grave. Christ has the key in Re:1 and that is 3 1/2 years before they are alive against. The curse in Re:22 would seem to apply to this kind of action being it is for the Media rather than being a teaching tool.

Re:1:18:
I am he that liveth,
and was dead;
and,
behold,
I am alive for evermore,
Amen;
and have the keys of hell and of death.

Joh:1:6:
There was a man sent from God,
whose name was John.

feel better now?

Bit of landscaping with a D8 and they could have a 3/1 slope on both sides. Seriously 1 tank of fuel is all it would take.

 

[Motar]

Same message from the same Source.

Alive in Christ
Jesus
"For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes," (John 5:21).
Paul
"For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive," (1 Cor. 15:22).

Anxiety
Jesus
"For this reason I say to you, do not be anxious for your life, as to what you shall eat, or what you shall drink; nor for your body, as to what you shall put on. Is not life more than food, and the body than clothing?" (Matt. 6:25).
Paul
"Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God," (Phil. 4:6).

Atonement
Jesus
"I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep," (John 10:11)
Paul
"and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you, and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma," (Eph. 5:2).

 

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Alive in Christ
Jesus
"For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes," (John 5:21).
Paul
"For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive," (1 Cor. 15:22).

If I'm not mistaken it is that 'dead' part that gets the biggest condemnation from 'the Flock'. The ' He wishes' part comes with restrictions and a finite list. Christ is the final authority on earth for the 1,000 year reign and it is through the list He is given as to will be taught to be Shepherds themselves because their 'first clients' are right around the corner when they 'graduate'.

Isa:54:1-4:
Sing,
O barren,
thou that didst not bear;
break forth into singing,
and cry aloud,
thou that didst not travail with child:
for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife,
saith the LORD.
Enlarge the place of thy tent,
and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations:
spare not,
lengthen thy cords,
and strengthen thy stakes;
For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left;
and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles,
and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.
Fear not;
for thou shalt not be ashamed:
neither be thou confounded;
for thou shalt not be put to shame:
for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth,
and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.

Whatever is built in the nations during the 1,000 years is destroyed in the last act of wrath, in the new earth a restoration takes place that is on a larger scale as it covers the universe instead of just this earth. The names can be used again but the losation would be a stars name rather than a plot of land on this earth. It will be transformed into the Temple called New Jerusalem and the Courtyard is the rest of the planet once the landscape is made into smooth rock.

Isa:56:5-7:
Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters:
I will give them an everlasting name,
that shall not be cut off.
Also the sons of the stranger,
that join themselves to the LORD,
to serve him,
and to love the name of the LORD,
to be his servants,
every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it,
and taketh hold of my covenant;
Even them will I bring to my holy mountain,
and make them joyful in my house of prayer:
their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar;
for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

Anxiety
Jesus
"For this reason I say to you, do not be anxious for your life, as to what you shall eat, or what you shall drink; nor for your body, as to what you shall put on. Is not life more than food, and the body than clothing?" (Matt. 6:25).
Paul
"Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God," (Phil. 4:6).

It should be pointed out that this was for people that had the same level of baptism as Jesus had after the 40 day fast and before the cross. The writers of the NT also had a 40 day fast after the cross so the level of what they could endure was also much higher in a time where proof of God was available because they could all do the the 'signs following'. Reading about those gifts does not mean you have them.

Atonement
Jesus
"I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep," (John 10:11)
Paul
"and walk in love, just as Christ also loved you, and gave Himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God as a fragrant aroma," (Eph. 5:2).

He also lays dowwn the life of the sinners in that they may be saved. By being behind locked doors in hell when Satan is sent to the lake means the wors sinners of all time do not get sent to the lake. Just the opposite to what the 'experts' preach. That is even carried forward to cover the salvation of all flesh in that it works out all of them have their lives restored as living water spreads out into the new earth.

 

[Motar]

Same message from the same Source.

Likewise:

Deity of Jesus
Jesus
"Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am," (John 8:58).
Paul
"For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form," (Col. 2:9).

Forgiveness
Jesus
"For if you forgive men for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you," (Matt. 6:14).
Paul
"And be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you," (Eph. 4:32).

Jesus - The Way
Jesus
"Jesus said to him, "I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me," (John 14:6).
Paul
"For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus," (1 Tim. 2:5).

 

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Likewise:

Deity of Jesus
Jesus
"Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am," (John 8:58).
Paul
"For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form," (Col. 2:9).

Joh:18:36:
Jesus answered,
My kingdom is not of this world:
if my kingdom were of this world,
then would my servants fight,
that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
but now is my kingdom not from hence.

2Co:12:2:
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago,
(whether in the body,
I cannot tell;
or whether out of the body,
I cannot tell:
God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven.

Heb:12:22-26:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant,
and to the blood of sprinkling,
that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
See that ye refuse not him that speaketh.
For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth,
much more shall not we escape,
if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
Whose voice then shook the earth:
but now he hath promised,
saying,
Yet once more I shake not the earth only,
but also heaven.

The witness of creation in Ge:1 was by God and the Holy Spirit, the witness below is that of Christ. Unlike the Holy Angels that are also at the GWT event Christ was born perfect. The ban on marriages before then was to protect any child born before that time from ending up in the lake. Being perfected they can be given in marriage in their new Heaven and have a child that is also born perfected.
The people that reside in New Jerusalem are not given in marriage during the time of the new earth. The courtyard at the beginning is like a blades of grass and the harvest that elevates mankind into the 3rd heaven is when this earth would be full of people if they were the size of a blade of grass. That transition would have the ones from New Jerusalem be given in marriage and they would have one child that is also born perfected. The others have 100 children that enter with them so they are not given in marriage in the 3rd heaven.

Proverb:8:22-36:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him,
as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
Now therefore hearken unto me,
O ye children:
for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Hear instruction,
and be wise,
and refuse it not.
Blessed is the man that heareth me,
watching daily at my gates,
waiting at the posts of my doors.
For whoso findeth me findeth life,
and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul:
all they that hate me love death.

John the Baptist was the last Prophet called by God and as such when John is mentioning who the message is from he is referencing Ge:1:1. In that chapter it was God who spoke, in the NT God was speaking through John the Baptist and through Jesus in the 3 1/2 years before the cross.

Joh:1:1-4:
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him;
and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life;
and the life was the light of men.

1Jo:5:7:
For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father,
the Word,
and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.

1Co:15:27:
For he hath put all things under his feet.
But when he saith all things are put under him,
it is manifest that he is excepted,
which did put all things under him.

Forgiveness
Jesus
"For if you forgive men for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you," (Matt. 6:14).
Paul
"And be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you," (Eph. 4:32).

M't:18:21-22:
Then came Peter to him,
and said,
Lord,
how oft shall my brother sin against me,
and I forgive him?
till seven times?
Jesus saith unto him,
I say not unto thee,
Until seven times:
but,
Until seventy times seven.

1Co:5:9-13:
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world,
or with the covetous,
or extortioners,
or with idolaters;
for then must ye needs go out of the world.
But now I have written unto you not to keep company,
if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator,
or covetous,
or an idolater,
or a railer,
or a drunkard,
or an extortioner;
with such an one no not to eat.
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without?
do not ye judge them that are within?
But them that are without God judgeth.
Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

The get gathered the same way you were gathered, they are not lost if you aren't the one that collects them.

Jesus - The Way
Jesus
"Jesus said to him, "I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me," (John 14:6).
Paul
"For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus," (1 Tim. 2:5).

Hebrews:12 is about the GWT so it doesn't come any more detailed than that.

whar de wildebeests

All gone to sleep.

Ho:2:18:
And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field,
and with the fowls of heaven,
and with the creeping things of the ground:
and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth,
and will make them to lie down safely.

Ho:4:3:
Therefore shall the land mourn,
and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish,
with the beasts of the field,
and with the fowls of heaven;
yea,
the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.

 

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Same message from the same Source.

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Justification by faith
Jesus
"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life," (John 5:24).
Paul
"Therefore having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ," (Rom. 5:1).

Law
Jesus
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill," (Matt. 5:17).
Paul
"Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law," (Rom. 3:31).

Living the Law
Jesus
"You shall not commit murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness; Honor your father and mother; and You shall love your neighbor as yourself," (Matt. 19:18-19).
Paul
"Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law. For this, "You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet," and if there is any other commandment, it is summed up in this saying, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Love does no wrong to a neighbor; love therefore is the fulfillment of the law," (Rom. 13:8-10)