New York plans to ban super-sized fizzy drinks

Bar Sinister

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An how the hell is such a law going to be enforced? This is a very poorly thought out idea and one that richly deserves the ridicule it has drawn.
 

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An how the hell is such a law going to be enforced? This is a very poorly thought out idea and one that richly deserves the ridicule it has drawn.

Oh if there is money to be made they will enforce the law. The Mayor will simply level fines for anyone selling a 17 oz. soda or above and have people check.

Department of Large Soda Enforcement
 

Bar Sinister

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Oh if there is money to be made they will enforce the law. The Mayor will simply level fines for anyone selling a 17 oz. soda or above and have people check.

Department of Large Soda Enforcement


Her is a simple way around the law. 16 oz drinks with unlimited refills. No way to enforce that.
 

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Suck it, nanny state! Court kills NYC soda ban



Big Apple residents with big thirsts were victorious Thursday this week when an appeals court in the Empire State said New York City officials lacked the authority to implement a ban against large beverages.

The decision handed down by the state's Court of Appeals in Albany by way of a 4-2 ruling Thursday morning now means that former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg’s campaign to keep big drinks out of area businesses has officially hit the end of the road.

New York City’s Board of Health voted unanimously in 2012 to accept the Bloomberg-led initiative to ban sugary drinks larger than 16 ounces from local eateries, movie theatres, sports stadiums and food carts, but the effort was fought tooth-and-nail by beverage companies, bottlers and restaurant industry stakeholders who said the city had overstepped its bounds.

"By choosing among competing policy goals, without any legislative delegation or guidance, the Board engaged in law-making and thus infringed upon the legislative jurisdiction of the City Council of New York," Judge Eugene F. Pigott Jr. of the New York State Court of Appeals wrote for the majority in a 20-page opinion published Thursday.

The American Beverage Association — an opponent of the would-be ban — hailed the court’s decision in a statement published soon after, saying a different outcome “would have created an uneven playing field for thousands of small businesses in the city and limited New Yorkers’ freedom of choice.”

If enacted, the ban would have barred thousands of New York City establishments from selling sugar-sweetened drinks in containers larger than 16 ounces, but would not apply to diet sodas, certain fruit juices and beverages containing alcohol. Coupled with similar restrictions against trans fats in restaurants and cigarette smoking in public parks, the attempted so-called “soda ban” was nevertheless just one facet of Mayor Bloomberg’s campaign to curb the city’s health problems by way of regulation. His successor, Bill de Blasio, carried on the Bloomberg administration’s campaign to have the Board-approved soda restrictions deemed lawful, but Thursday’s decision now marks the third time that the courts have ruled otherwise.

Speaking on behalf of the dissenting justices, though, Judge Susan P. Read blasted the majority ruling by writing that it “misapprehends, mischaracterizes and thereby curtails the powers of the New York City Board of Health to address the public health threats of the early 21st century.”

“While my colleagues in the majority may be troubled by this state of affairs, it is not their proper role to change it,” Read wrote.

Dr. Mary T. Bassett, the city’s health commissioner, said in a statement issued later Thursday that the ruling “does not change the fact that sugary-drink consumption is a key driver of the obesity epidemic.”

“We will continue to look for ways to stem the twin epidemics of obesity and Type 2 diabetes by seeking to limit the pernicious effects of aggressive and predatory marketing of sugary drinks and unhealthy foods,” she wrote.

source: Suck it, nanny state! Court kills NYC soda ban ? RT USA
 

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They should just called them Darwin soda and hand them out for free.


Coca Cola 7-Eleven 32 oz Big Gulp (28 oz soda + 4 oz ice) Sugars, total: 91g Calories, total: 364 Calories from sugar: 364 7-Eleven 44 oz Super Gulp (38 oz soda + 6 oz ice) Sugars, total: 128g Calories, total: 512 Calories from sugar: 512



Coca Cola 7-Eleven 52 oz Xtreme Gulp (45 oz soda + 7 oz ice) Sugars, total: 146g Calories, total: 585 Calories from sugar: 585



Coca Cola 7-Eleven 64 oz Double Gulp (55 oz soda + 9 oz ice) Sugars, total: 186g Calories, total: 744 Calories from sugar: 744

How Much Sugar in Sodas and Beverages?

they might clue in when they have to amputate their legs...naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
 

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They should just called them Darwin soda and hand them out for free.


Coca Cola 7-Eleven 32 oz Big Gulp (28 oz soda + 4 oz ice) Sugars, total: 91g Calories, total: 364 Calories from sugar: 364 7-Eleven 44 oz Super Gulp (38 oz soda + 6 oz ice) Sugars, total: 128g Calories, total: 512 Calories from sugar: 512



Coca Cola 7-Eleven 52 oz Xtreme Gulp (45 oz soda + 7 oz ice) Sugars, total: 146g Calories, total: 585 Calories from sugar: 585



Coca Cola 7-Eleven 64 oz Double Gulp (55 oz soda + 9 oz ice) Sugars, total: 186g Calories, total: 744 Calories from sugar: 744

How Much Sugar in Sodas and Beverages?

they might clue in when they have to amputate their legs...naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

When I was in university I had 2-5 Super Big Gulps a day. Did not cause any health issues at the time. I couldn't do it now although I do have a couple large $1 cokes at Mcds every week now.
 

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When I was in university I had 2-5 Super Big Gulps a day. Did not cause any health issues at the time. I couldn't do it now although I do have a couple large $1 cokes at Mcds every week now.
wow, that's a lot of poison to be slamming back per day but yeah the body is forgiving when one is young...and more so for some people than for others
 

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wow, that's a lot of poison to be slamming back per day but yeah the body is forgiving when one is young...and more so for some people than for others

In retrospect I did walk to the 7-11 (about 1 hour walk) on more than 1 occasion so it was not just a matter of convenience. Sugar is not poison. It is raw fuel. It's only an issue if you don't run the engine to burn the fuel.
 

Sal

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In retrospect I did walk to the 7-11 (about 1 hour walk) on more than 1 occasion so it was not just a matter of convenience. Sugar is not poison. It is raw fuel. It's only an issue if you don't run the engine to burn the fuel.
well for sure we disagree on that,

Fructose isn't poison.

Refined sugar in pop etc...hm...not something that one should consume in excess or even frequently

How 'toxic' is sugar? - Health - CBC News

Sweet poison: why sugar is ruining our health - Telegraph
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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well for sure we disagree on that,

Fructose isn't poison.

Refined sugar in pop etc...hm...not something that one should consume in excess or even frequently

How 'toxic' is sugar? - Health - CBC News

Sweet poison: why sugar is ruining our health - Telegraph

I know that Fructose is worse than Sucrose. It tends to not fill you up and therefore you usually consume more of it. Maybe there are different forms but Fructose is listed on the side of the Coke can.

Side note, Fructose was added to Coke when it became Coke Classic. The original Coke was made with Sucrose. After the new Coke fiasco (or planned fiasco) they made a quiet switch of the sugar when it came back on the market. People were so grateful to get rid of the new coke they didn't care.
 

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It is wonderful new, New York has solved all of its serious problems and they
now have time to attack pop companies why are we rolling our eyes. God
this is ridiculous