Nelson Mandela Was A 'Terrorist'

JLM

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It's just struck me that Nelson Mandela has done more for humanity than anyone else for 150 years, since Abraham Lincoln!
 

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It's just struck me that Nelson Mandela has done more for humanity than anyone else for 150 years, since Abraham Lincoln!

I'd say he's up there but not at the top. Gandhi was doing more or less the same thing decades before Mandela.

The folks who came up with the Polio vaccine and penicillin were far more helpful to people around the world than Mandela was. They have saved millions of lives around the world.
 

JLM

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I'd say he's up there but not at the top. Gandhi was doing more or less the same thing decades before Mandela.

The folks who came up with the Polio vaccine and penicillin were far more helpful to people around the world than Mandela was. They have saved millions of lives around the world.


That's true, Frederick Banting too.
 

Sal

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The question was " how has life improved in SA?"

Now everyone is equally broke?

Are you happy with your vote even though it's something you've always had?
things take time to improve...the same could be said about slavery in the US if one looks at ghetto/gang life today....

it's all relative, freedom is freedom to choose

why would you decide for others what is best for them, perhaps poverty and freedom are better than the security of living on a leash, perhaps for you personally it would not be... it is a philosophical dilemma and not one with an easy answer...our own native communities have similar issues

viewing something in black and white seldom reveals truth

although it does make people comfortable
 

JLM

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things take time to improve...the same could be said about slavery in the US if one looks at ghetto/gang life today....

it's all relative, freedom is freedom to choose

why would you decide for others what is best for them, perhaps poverty and freedom are better than the security of living on a leash, perhaps for you personally it would not be... it is a philosophical dilemma and not one with an easy answer...our own native communities have similar issues

viewing something in black and white seldom reveals truth

although it does make people comfortable


Well spoken, Sal.

How has life improved in SA?


I think you find the answers first hand in this, Petros



Nelson Mandela honoured with state funeral in South Africa - World - CBC News
 

Sal

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Is life better?
I don't know, and neither do you. I know people that immigrated to Canada from China, many many years ago. She has lived under the yoke of oppression. She told me it is better to die trying to be free than live without freedom. Freedom at any cost is how they lived here. I was born in Canada from immigrant parents. I have no concept of the yoke of oppression. How could one possibly judge what is best for another human being?

Black and white is more than just lack of colour.
 

petros

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If you have no opportunity, the freedom to chose between nothing, nothing or nothing is a benefit in what way?

I've been to SA BTW.
 

Sal

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If you have no opportunity, the freedom to chose between nothing, nothing or nothing is a benefit in what way?

I've been to SA BTW.
You have been there but you are not SA. You have stated that Nelson Mandela was a terrorist. That is your held belief. Now you must justify that held belief or consider changing your opinion. You must keep things black and white. You must examine the issue from a narrow view point or else...consider changing your opinion.

What is your definition of a terrorist?