NDP to table House of Commons motion calling for Pope to apologize for residential sc
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Are you demanding an apology from all Muslims then?
Of course this is about lawsuits, more specifically money.
... And it wasn't the Pope, Vatican or all Catholics that perpetrated any of these abuses, it was an individual(s) that did it..... Funny how they aren't going after the individuals for apologies and money, right?
This sentence contradicts itself.
"And it wasn't the Pope, Vatican or all Catholics that perpetrated any of these abuses, it was an individual(s) that did it....."
The Catholic Church spent a lot of time shuffling around pedophile priests.
Would you say it is not the Catholic Churches responsibility?
And suddenly they are without blame when it comes to the part they played in residential schools?
Horsesh!t.
And that is from someone raised in a very Catholic family.
and that has what to do with the residential schools?
The Catholic Church wasn't the only organization that "shuffled" known pedophiles around to try and keep things hush hush. The Boy Scouts of America did the same damn thing, but I don't hear anyone whining about that.
The Pope apologized already, on behalf of the Catholic Church for the Churches roll in the residential schools. It's done, get over it and get on with life rather than wallowing in self pity and perpetuating the "poor me" syndrome. It's time to grow the fu ck up and get on with life.
Why would I?
...and yet it is all of Islam that is responsible for Islamic terrorism...how convenient...
Just like how all law-abiding gun owners are responsible every time someone gets shot. Or how Whitey today is responsible for the actions of Whitey a hundred years ago and more. Or how everybody that voted for Trump (or Brexit) is a racist. Yep, how convenient indeed, eh.
The catholic church moved priests around on a regular basis for a variety of reasons... You are suggesting that it was done exclusively for reasons of criminal abuses.
That said, your assumption is exactly that, an assumption and nothing more.
Regardless, you still haven't addressed the notion that other Churches were not being targeted in the same way as the catholic church.
It doesn't take any real intuitive skills to deduce that as the Vatican represents a central authority that has big assets whereas the other Church examples don't have any real cash to go after, why they decry the abuses of the one Church and all the others are not in the lime light on the issue (especially once or if they had apologized).
So, does it still make sense to demand apologies in perpetuity from an entire group despite the fact that it was an individual(s) that perpetuated the crime?
Doesn't make any sense, unless it's only a part of a larger agenda.
... And that is also from someone that was raised in a Catholic family
Are any of the accused still alive to defend themselves?
Further, the Priest didn't take these reprehensible actions on behalf of the Church so that restitution would be limited to the assets of that Priest.
It may well be a larger agenda. Unlike the dude that works at the Royal Bank who also happens to diddle kids (a fictional character for this exercise) the catholic church was in a position of power during their role in the residential schools. While I acknowledge not all Catholics perpetrated these crimes, a great many who wore the cloth did. I doubt an apology will undo what has been done and as Gerry pointed out, the Pope did apologize. But the Catholic Church as an institution does bear responsibility for the abuses it has doled out by appointing pedophiles or abusive subjects to these posts. They have a history of covering these things up. You can try and water it down, but it is a matter of record.
I don't know.
Oh, I see, he was there representing himself as a Jew was he?
In your hypothetical example, RBC and the Vatican would be in the same boat, but you're exonerating RBC and in speaking of the potential that it may be part of a larger agenda is no more than speculation (too many elements relying of speculation) that magically transforms into fact.
But I still ask the question, why are these same actions not being taken against the Protestant, Unitarian, Baptist, Evangelical, et al, etc Churches?
Allegations were made against all, right, so why the singularity in only the one institution?
You might want to generate an understanding of this then, but you can always use a contemporary example of the Truth Commission as a template. Only a handful of the accused were/are around to defend themselves and magically, their denials of wrongdoings were carefully considered by an uber non-partisan group for 30 or so seconds before guilt was pronounced.
Say, what was the agenda on that one?
You got me there as the Vatican issued special Papal Bulls that specifically directed each and every Priest to abuse only indian children.
It's a fact dontcha know
15 Lawsuits Filed Against Boy Scouts Over 1980s Sex Abuse In Burbank « CBS Chicago
All sorts of people whinging about children being abused in the Boy Scouts.
If you haven't heard about it that would be filed under the heading of "willful ignorance"
An Idjit list specialty.
All sorts of people whinging about children being abused in the Boy Scouts.
If you haven't heard about it that would be filed under the heading of "willful ignorance"
An Idjit list specialty.
Which crimes are you talking about ? The ones were the institutions burned the native blankets and furs and forced the children to wear clean clothes and underwear . Or how about my grandma got the strap in school . Or are you talking sexual abuse ? How much was there ? 100% of children , 50 % , 20% 1% . Did said sexual abuse occur at every residential school ? Was there more or less abuse than happened at say boys boarding schools ?
The Feds held the liability and paid $32K average per head whether happy to be there or upset they had to do housekeeping chores just like any other dorm in existence today or of yesteryear.