NDP to table House of Commons motion calling for Pope to apologize for residential sc

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NDP to table House of Commons motion calling for Pope to apologize for residential schools | CBC News

Of what use is a compelled apology? As far as I know, judges don't force even convicted murderers to apologize for their crimes since such an apology would be meaningless anyway. Sure we can sue for reparations, and we might be able to force an insincere apology, but is that what we really want?

If people sued the Church for financial compensation, they might win and I'd support that. But there is just no point in forcing an insincere apology.
 
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Of what use is blaming those paid by the Feds to run the schools. Have the Protestants apologized?

Protestants ran far more residential schools.
 
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petros said:
Of what use is blaming those paid by the Feds to run the schools. Have the Protestants apologized?

Protestants ran far more residential schools.
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The 'Protestants' didn't apologize because not all Protestant Churches were involved. However, three of the four (the Anglican, Catholic, Presbyterian, and United Churches) have officially apologized; but in each case, it was a free and willing (and so more probably sincere) apology.

petros said:
Of what use is blaming those paid by the Feds to run the schools. Have the Protestants apologized?

Protestants ran far more residential schools.
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I think most of the schools were Catholic, but it wouldn't matter if only one of the schools was.
 
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petros said:
You thought wrong.
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Regardless. I don't believe that forcing the Catholic Church to apologize will benefit anyone. if we twist the Vatican's arm into an apology, how will we know how sincere it is? It's a pointless endeavour. Anyone who wants to sue the Church for money, by all means, and they might even win. Beyond that though, I don't see the value of an insincere apology. Heck, we don't even force convicted murders to apologize for the same reason.

petros said:
You thought wrong.

They all fall under "United Church"
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There is a particular branch of the Protestant community that officially calls itself the United Church:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Church_of_Canada
 
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Are you aware that there was massive confusion between what happened in Pennsylvania and what went down with residential schools that Natives were calling the $32K payments "arse money"?
 
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Didn't Benedict issue a written apology years ago? How many apologies are needed before the statement of your forgiven is issued?
 
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Didn't Benedict issue a written apology years ago? How many apologies are needed before the statement of your forgiven is issued?
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No he didn't. But again, even if he had, had it been forced on him, what good could have come from a forced apology?
 
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Link
, in a brief submitted to the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples in November 1993, the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops did acknowledge that "various types of abuse experienced at some residential schools have moved us to a profound examination of conscience as a Church."
Already in 1991, Canadian Catholic Bishops and leaders of men and women religious communities had issued a statement that "We are sorry and deeply regret the pain, suffering and alienation that so many experienced" at the Residential Schools.
There have been, and continue to be, numerous initiatives by Catholic agencies and institutions in Canada to help heal the sufferings of the Aboriginal Peoples. The process of healing and reconciliation is ongoing.
Here are some of the apologies that have been made over the years by Catholic organizations in Canada.
Statement by the National Meeting on Indian Residential Schools
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan - March 13-15, 1991
Extract of Let Justice flow like a Mighty River, Brief by the CCCB to the Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples, 1995
The Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate - An Apology to the First Nations of Canada by the Oblate Conference of Canada
24 July 1991
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Utter hubris on the part of the NDP. Even if the entire House voted to support the motion, just how are they going to force a pope to apologize? Really.
 
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Oh, so that's why there is no hell all of sudden...

..and that's stern drag....goes after keel hauling.
 
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