Appears you believe Evolution IS a faith based system after all.peapod said:
BTW: You know absolutely nothing about my Social Conscience; consequently, it is extremely presumptuous of you to imply it needs defining.
NDP Have BIG plans in BC again!!!
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BTW: You know absolutely nothing about my Social Conscience; consequently, it is extremely presumptuous of you to imply it needs defining.
Wow! that is rather rash swirl 
No my ideas on evloution are not faith based, as I define faith as
1) The idea that something can be true, merely by wishing it to be so.
2)The proposition that something is true, even if there is no evidence to support it..
3) The belief that something is true, in spite of evidence to the contrary.
And I most certainly do believe in social consciousness, because I see individuals practicing it every day, and I see it in the good works of lots of indivdiuals.
And I believe in the goodness of people, because I have seen it, its not faith based, its a fact for me.
No my ideas on evloution are not faith based, as I define faith as
1) The idea that something can be true, merely by wishing it to be so.
2)The proposition that something is true, even if there is no evidence to support it..
3) The belief that something is true, in spite of evidence to the contrary.
And I most certainly do believe in social consciousness, because I see individuals practicing it every day, and I see it in the good works of lots of indivdiuals.
And I believe in the goodness of people, because I have seen it, its not faith based, its a fact for me.
hmm... I wondered about that itch.peapod said:Wow! that is rather rash swirl
Who implied or stated you don't? Methinks you do protest too much.peapod said:
Who implied or stated you don't? Methinks you do protest too much.peapod said:
Now you've got me so flustered I'm repeating myself. Perhaps I'm putting too much reliance in faith.
The only fact is, pod, the ideas expressed by what you write appear very incongruent as it seems you...
...hope the Liberals are not elected on May 17 because you believe they lack a social conscience, whereas you feel that the electorate do have a social conscience. Which is all about faith. If/when this happens though it will be about evolution which is not about faith. No wonder you're confused.
Yes that is exactly what I believe swirl. I believe the liberals lack all the above, and I am going by facts not faith. And I am not confused, at least not in my own mind. But thank you for the concern. We can at least agree on this fact, the voters of british columbia will decide the course of our province on May17. Have a great day
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ehm...just one more thing swirl, I will come to this board whenever I like, I don't need an invite or permission from you :lol: :lol:
My, my - punchy aren't we pod. Is this the "goodness of people..." to which you previously alluded?peapod said:
It was neither an invitation nor grant of permission - it was a suggestion so that we might continue the discussion once the facts are known.
BTW: I agree wholeheartedly with your previous suggestion regarding the need for more, and better education. :twisted:
Not punchy at all swirl, its just that I have seen that swirl of telling other people what to do. Hey I don't mind different opinions, I don't have to live with you But I do mind someone telling me when I can visit my board. :twisted:
But I do mind someone telling me when I can visit my board. :twisted:Well swirl, I am not going to continue this little game with you, frankly I find boring, and do not mistake that for anything else. Since you do not own this site, you are in no postion to tell me when I can visit this board or drop by.
Until you substantiate your apparently spurious allegation I will continue to assume the obvious.peapod said:
As clearly stated I did not "tell" you to do anything.peapod said:
Is there a veiled threat in this question of ownership?
RE: NDP Have BIG plans in
Hey peapod when I read your posts you sound like a Green like me. But i'm heavily considering voting NDP because a Green vote is too risky in what should be a close election to determining whether we oust these liberals. It's actually a tough choice for me. What about you?
Sometimes it feels so lonely being a person of morals and social conscience. It is reassuring to simply hear another voice of compassion out there. I am person of the extreme green left, I can't stand that there are homeless people in the winter, I can't stand pollution or over-zealous logging or destruction of habitats. I would love to see the entire province so environmentally sound that Canada would have to kick us out we'd be so in-debt. But having profits are not a fraction as important as shelter for all, food for all, wild nature for all, clean air, green views, organic foods. Some people's hearts are dried up and cracked and they do not seem aware of this beauty that we talk of and wish to defend. This may not be a fascist state yet but part of me feels imprisoned and dictated nonetheless. I have a feeling that the extremity of my alignment is unmatched here, but still it feels good that there are similar minds out there.
As for you others, I wish you knew what you were missing out on.
One thing is true of my condition, it comes alive with hope when I finally find some peers. But it withers with dismay when I walk through this city, surrounded by callousness and self-interest, I am constantly broken by the neccessities of urban survival. It is a strange balance of optimism for my dreams and sorrow for my realities.
Hey peapod when I read your posts you sound like a Green like me. But i'm heavily considering voting NDP because a Green vote is too risky in what should be a close election to determining whether we oust these liberals. It's actually a tough choice for me. What about you?
Sometimes it feels so lonely being a person of morals and social conscience. It is reassuring to simply hear another voice of compassion out there. I am person of the extreme green left, I can't stand that there are homeless people in the winter, I can't stand pollution or over-zealous logging or destruction of habitats. I would love to see the entire province so environmentally sound that Canada would have to kick us out we'd be so in-debt. But having profits are not a fraction as important as shelter for all, food for all, wild nature for all, clean air, green views, organic foods. Some people's hearts are dried up and cracked and they do not seem aware of this beauty that we talk of and wish to defend. This may not be a fascist state yet but part of me feels imprisoned and dictated nonetheless. I have a feeling that the extremity of my alignment is unmatched here, but still it feels good that there are similar minds out there.
As for you others, I wish you knew what you were missing out on.
One thing is true of my condition, it comes alive with hope when I finally find some peers. But it withers with dismay when I walk through this city, surrounded by callousness and self-interest, I am constantly broken by the neccessities of urban survival. It is a strange balance of optimism for my dreams and sorrow for my realities.
Your missing the point, the more loans we have outstanding the higher the interest and the less money that gets diverted to services. Currently just below %20 of federal tax money goes to paying off interest on past loans.
If we get rid of that %20 the government could cut taxes and probably afford your insanely expensive (but not pointless) initiatives as well.
If we get rid of that %20 the government could cut taxes and probably afford your insanely expensive (but not pointless) initiatives as well.
That was very kind of you oakserve, but yes we do have similar thinking. But lets not bore others with our "knowing" :lol: :lol: I have some things I would like to say to you, so I will PM you.
Does the NDP have an environmental platform? Based on previous performance, what did they do to protect or enhance the environment?
You should always vote for who you believe best represents your values...not based on who you DON'T want in power!
??? That LPN's medication? .... OK. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3916/is_200006/ai_n8927290insignificant said:
If you need more information feel free to contact this Alberta based private company who has recently began operating a facility in BC. On their medication protocol as to whom is allowed to administer medication. I leave that open to anyone, feel free to ask. http://www.gss.org/
More Dirt for the Liberals to sweep under the carpet...
Long-term care and home health services in BC on steady decline
Province-wide audit provides clear picture of cuts since 2001, documents lost beds
April 4, 2005 | BC Office | Topic(s): Health, health care system, pharmacare | Publication Type: News Release | Research Desk: Economic Security Project
(Vancouver) Access to long-term care and home health services for BC seniors has decreased significantly over the past three years, in spite of rising pressures from an aging population and cuts to the acute care system. The level of services in BC has fallen far below the Canadian average, and is now near the bottom compared to other provinces. Cuts have also been much deeper in some health authorities than others, leading to growing regional inequities in the availability of care.
These are the central findings of Continuing Care Renewal or Retreat: BC Residential and Home Health Care Restructuring 2001-2004, released today by the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives. The study documents the actual changes in the number of beds and services available to seniors and people with disabilities, using information gathered from the health authorities and the provincial and federal governments during a detailed province-wide audit.
The study finds that:
• There has been a net decrease of 1,464 long-term care beds since 2001— even after accounting for new assisted living units. Between 2001 and December 2004, BC cut 2,529 residential care beds and added only 1,065 assisted living units to the system.
• Home support (personal care) has also been cut since 2001. Relative to the population of BC seniors aged 75 and over, there has been a 13 percent decline as of 2003 in home support hours, and a 21 percent decline in number of clients. Home care (professional nursing) hours and clients declined by 8 percent.
• Along with New Brunswick, BC now has the lowest level of access to residential care beds in Canada for seniors aged 75 and over, falling 13 percent below the national average. The number of clients served by BC’s home health care services (as a share of the population aged 75 and over) has fallen to 30 percent below the national average.
• Cuts to continuing care were made at the same time as more than 1,200 hospital beds were closed, and while BC’s population is aging.
• The cuts have created significant inequality in access to services between the health regions. Seniors living in the Vancouver Coastal or Northern Health Authority have far ‘better’, though still inadequate, access to residential care than people living in the Fraser, Vancouver Island or Interior Health Authorities. The cuts to acute care and home health services have also been much deeper in some regions than others.
“There has been a great deal of confusion about cuts to residential care. The bottom line is that there has been a significant net loss of beds,” says Marcy Cohen, lead author of the study, a research associate with the CCPA and a researcher with the Hospital Employees’ Union.
“It is an impossible situation for most seniors,” says Joyce Jones of the BC Seniors’ Network. “The shortage of services is forcing seniors and their families to pay for care privately or provide care themselves. Those who can’t afford to pay or who don’t have families to support them often simply go without until they are admitted to a hospital emergency ward in crisis.”
“The lack of home support and residential care services has a cascade effect,” says Melanie Lekovic, an emergency room nurse in the Fraser Health Authority. “Seniors with no place to go end up in the emergency wards or in hospital beds, which increases the wait times and back ups for everyone requiring acute care services.”
This situation is quantified in a recent Capital Regional District (Victoria and area) report showing that there are now, on average, 162 elderly people who should be in residential care waiting in hospital each month. “Housing seniors in acute care in the Capital Regional District alone is costing between $2 million and $4 million more per year than it would to house them in residential care,” says Cohen.
“Many seniors are now fearful about the future,” says Jones. “They are afraid publicly-subsidized care won’t be available to them when they need it. And they can’t afford to pay for it privately.” The study’s authors conducted a province-wide survey of corporate residential care and assisted living facilities in BC. They found that in residential care, fees range from an average of $44,000 per year to a high of $67,000. Assisted living fees range from an average of $38,000 per year to a high of $52,000.
The vast majority of continuing care clients are ‘unattached’ women aged 70 and over, three quarters of whom had incomes of $25,000 or less in 2000.
Since 2001, the provincial government has put an additional $2.4 billion into health care and regional health authority budgets increased by 21 percent between 2000/01 and 2003/04. However, the province has stopped tracking health authorities’ expenditures on continuing care services. As a result, it is impossible to determine how and where the health authorities have allocated the increased funding from the province or from the reduced expenditures on residential care.
“This report shows that cuts to continuing care may in fact be increasing overall health expenditures,” says Cohen. “The lack of accountability is unacceptable.” The study’s authors are calling on the government to immediately set up an external review of continuing care services, including a public consultation process and an audit of health authority budgets by independent experts.
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To arrange an interview, call Shannon Daub at 604-801-5121 ext 226.
Continuing Care Renewal or Retreat: BC Residential and Home Health Care Restructuring 2001-2004 part of the Economic Security Project, a joint research initiative of the CCPA and Simon Fraser University. It was produced with financial support from the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada (SSHRC).
http://www.policyalternatives.ca/index.cfm?act=news&do=Article&call=1067&pA=BB736455
Looks like things are not so rosey... BTW I'm back :evil:
very interesting information. Problem is, what is any future gov't...Liberal, NDP or otherwsise going to do to meet the needs of seniors. The problem also goes beyond the bounds of the provincial gov't. The FEDS who take about 75% of our income tax dollars have a responisbility too...it is easy for them to hide in Ottawa away from provincial issues. That is the real problem. Federal health care funding has erroded from 50% down to 14%!
We cannot expect the NDP or Liberals to be able to provide and meet the needs of our seniors without the ongoing annual support of the feds, and until that happens, these problems will continue.
We cannot expect the NDP or Liberals to be able to provide and meet the needs of our seniors without the ongoing annual support of the feds, and until that happens, these problems will continue.
We can expect what ever government that is in power to make some progress on these issues, we did not see this with our current government. I'm not sold on the notion that our current government improved the situation but impeded it.insignificant said:
Passing the buck on the Feds also make the current Government look poorly, if our current government can not negotiate adequately with the Feds on our behalf then maybe we need to look elsewhere.