And big time are the salaries lawyers and leaders are getting keeping this corrupt regime alive. It is second rate regional development for poor rural people. And I say fix UI so the underemployed (read lazy white people) in Atlantic Canada start getting real jobs too.
Native hunting rights sometimes trumped, expert says
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Ralphie spend a fair bit of time playing golf too. Better than spending it with lobbyists who corrupt our system. All the energy Atlantic Cdns spend trying to evade work is a shame really. We all pay for this corruption.
Regional development schemes don't work. The money would be far better spent on the homeless who really need it.
Regional development schemes don't work. The money would be far better spent on the homeless who really need it.
This is a problem all right. Natives are allowed to do a "traditional" hunt with scoped rifles with attached flashlights. Same with the native food fishery which is done with modern seine boats and lots are sold to non natives. Where or where did that little salmon go......
Even the native tribes want to destroy their lands.
Mining could spark outcry
BY DAVID FLESHLER
The Seminole Tribe has applied for a permit to expand a rock mine in a remote corner of northwest Broward County in a proposal that could generate opposition from environmentalists concerned about the Florida panther.
The tribe has asked the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for permission to destroy 198 acres of wetlands to mine limestone on its Big Cypress Reservation, a place of pastures, forests and wetlands where panthers hunt deer, hogs and other prey.
The rock would be used mainly to rebuild a bridge, widen shoulders and make other safety improvements to Snake Road, a notoriously dangerous road that winds through the reservation.
But the project could face a fight from conservationists concerned about the construction of housing developments, roads andother developmentsin the endangeredcat's shrinking hab-itat.
``The panther is getting squeezed,'' said Matthew Schwartz, Everglades chairman of the Broward Group of the Sierra Club, who has led hikes through the area and seen panther tracks. ``Each development may not be the final nail in the coffin, but it's the cumulative impact. It's not just the rock mine, it's the residential development on the western side of Big Cypress.''
The Corps of Engineers plans to seek an opinion from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on the likely impact on the panther. But many environmentalists have little faith in the government's willingness to stop or restrict projects that could threaten the endangered cat.
Although rock mining typically involves blasting, no explosives would be used for this one, according to the Corps of Engineers. Using a backhoe, the tribe's workers would mine in strips 20 feet deep, 200 feet wide and 2,195 feet long, leaving behind rock pitlakes.
To mitigate the loss of wetlands, a federal requirement, they have proposed making improvements to 736 acres of existingwetlands on thewest side of the reservation, which the tribe says will improve the habitat for panthers and endangered wood storks.
Mining could spark outcry - Broward - MiamiHerald.com
Mining could spark outcry
BY DAVID FLESHLER
The Seminole Tribe has applied for a permit to expand a rock mine in a remote corner of northwest Broward County in a proposal that could generate opposition from environmentalists concerned about the Florida panther.
The tribe has asked the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for permission to destroy 198 acres of wetlands to mine limestone on its Big Cypress Reservation, a place of pastures, forests and wetlands where panthers hunt deer, hogs and other prey.
The rock would be used mainly to rebuild a bridge, widen shoulders and make other safety improvements to Snake Road, a notoriously dangerous road that winds through the reservation.
But the project could face a fight from conservationists concerned about the construction of housing developments, roads andother developmentsin the endangeredcat's shrinking hab-itat.
``The panther is getting squeezed,'' said Matthew Schwartz, Everglades chairman of the Broward Group of the Sierra Club, who has led hikes through the area and seen panther tracks. ``Each development may not be the final nail in the coffin, but it's the cumulative impact. It's not just the rock mine, it's the residential development on the western side of Big Cypress.''
The Corps of Engineers plans to seek an opinion from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on the likely impact on the panther. But many environmentalists have little faith in the government's willingness to stop or restrict projects that could threaten the endangered cat.
Although rock mining typically involves blasting, no explosives would be used for this one, according to the Corps of Engineers. Using a backhoe, the tribe's workers would mine in strips 20 feet deep, 200 feet wide and 2,195 feet long, leaving behind rock pitlakes.
To mitigate the loss of wetlands, a federal requirement, they have proposed making improvements to 736 acres of existingwetlands on thewest side of the reservation, which the tribe says will improve the habitat for panthers and endangered wood storks.
Mining could spark outcry - Broward - MiamiHerald.com
The article has more to do with the northern natives and their right to hunt which they do for sustenance,theres not many kabluna's(white guys) around and if they had money they wouldnt be buying poached meat or fish with it.
They do hunt at night in the winter but it's 24 hour darkness so they have no choice.;-)
This is not like you see near the west coast where they poach and fish for monetary reasons.
Well, technically the natives are not Canadian citizens according to the treaties. We also have international obligations to protect wildlife in our country.
Ergo, we have no choice but to protect our wildlife from the natives if they will not be responsible themselves. We have no obligations to a sovereign power that scoffs international agreements. Of course that is an if, I really don't care to dig up any evidence.
Ergo, we have no choice but to protect our wildlife from the natives if they will not be responsible themselves. We have no obligations to a sovereign power that scoffs international agreements. Of course that is an if, I really don't care to dig up any evidence.
Technically. Hmmm. They live in what is now called Canada. They get large amounts of tax revenue from Canadians. Yet Canada, in their "culture" does not exist. How long with these technicalities prevent us from doing the obvious? This legal game that feeds lawyers and delusions has got to end.
Treaties divide Canadians by race and I don't like my tax money supporting this.
Your tax dollars are paying for the right to use this land. Don't like the idea of paying the rightfull owners, you know where the door is.
Unfortunately the rightful owner is the Crown, landowners don't even own their land. We all have to live under some rule of law, and for all its warts, British common law is far better than the law of the jungle, where real estate aquisition is done by force and genocide. Britain was guilty of this in the past, for sure, and my ancesters were not very successful at righting this wrong, or getting their land back either. We have to start having everyone live under the same system of law if we ever want to live with any modicum of peace.
Rightful owners indeed but responsibility of "caretaking" was signed over and that is the bulk of the problem. Piss poor management that troubles all of us.
We've all been shafted, just not equally.
British Common Law, for all its shortcomings is about the best base system in use. We need to move past this coddling of one minority over other groups in order to promote equality and eliminate the resentments that breed prejudice. I can appreciate there are and will continue to be some resentments for this type of attitude but its also getting to the point the point that many "natives" aren't native anymore: they have as much European ancestry as anything else. When I see red and blond haired, blue and green eyed cheifs and spokespeople, it reeks of hypocrasy when they talk about how my ancestors "stole the land" from theirs.
simple solution really.... quit screwing around with existing treaties and quit screwing around with the treaty process where treaties have not been signed yet. Get everything done and paid for. 400 plus years is far too long for the "crown" to be screwing around with First Nations.
You want it to end, you want things to be "fairer", then tell your Government to get off their collective asses and negotiate a fair agreement and then KEEP the damn agreement.
You want it to end, you want things to be "fairer", then tell your Government to get off their collective asses and negotiate a fair agreement and then KEEP the damn agreement.