Name ONE BIG THING a terrorist has ever blown up in the US

Sal

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Okay thanks Petros and Tax....I have been totally unaware of the whole Russian happening or more correctly the depth of fall out...I will definitely become more aware
 

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yes I believe it is a bigger danger, usually I am not a kill on sight and ask questions later type of person, but with this I am...I am okay with the execution/extermination of these people

I believe they are more dangerous yes, they have only just begun

O.K. I don't quite agree, but for sake of argument if they are, how do you propose controlling them? Can they be considered controlled while they are chopping off people's heads? I say exterminate them first, control them later.:)
 

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O.K. I don't quite agree, but for sake of argument if they are, how do you propose controlling them? Can they be considered controlled while they are chopping off people's heads? I say exterminate them first, control them later.:)
I don't know yet but it would seem that us over there is just causing us to be a target and I don't know if it's actually possible for us to wipe them out as when we exterminate one group they just start a new cell

so it would seem best to tighten everything at home in whatever way that has to be
 

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I don't know yet but it would seem that us over there is just causing us to be a target and I don't know if it's actually possible for us to wipe them out as when we exterminate one group they just start a new cell

so it would seem best to tighten everything at home in whatever way that has to be

How would we go about trials, prisoner placement and executions?
 

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How would we go about trials, prisoner placement and executions?
don't know Petros but they are a new threat to survival and need to be handled in a different and unique way...I don't think the old ways will work on this

their ground, their rules, or our ground, our rules...
 

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Did they conduct fair trials? Do they deserve fair trials?
what's fair when dealing with this type of mentality...what are we willing to sacrifice in order to rid ourselves of them, in order to be safe, hard questions to answer
 

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That Didn't Take Long: The First Lie about Moscow Meeting - Russia Insider
Not much has filtered out of the Medusa Merkel/General Hollande/Vlad tense threesome in Moscow. And yet John Kerry, as usual, is already lying through his teeth about their trip to the Kremlin.
He said Putin had sent “a couple of ideas” to France and Germany, and Merkel/Hollande were responding. Nonsense: Merkel/Hollande – in desperation – went to Moscow to talk to Putin because Putin has the ONLY possible plan to stabilize Ukraine - and that has been the case for months now.
Otherwise, there WILL be war, which is exactly what Empire of Chaos masterminds in D.C. want.
Kerry lied the extra mile when he said the US wanted a diplomatic solution. BUT then came the usual talk of “reviewing all options”, including “the possibility of providing defensive systems to Ukraine”.
Do that – and the Russian response will be devastating.
No wonder the absolute majority of the EU – apart from crackpot Lithuanians – is opposed to weaponizing Kiev’s goons.
The Süddeutsche Zeitung – a very decent paper – last Sunday featured Russian military expert Yevgeny Buchinsky warning that if that happens, “Russia will have to intervene, and then, bluntly speaking, to take Kiev. Then NATO would be in a difficult situation. Then you would have to start World War III, which no one wants.”


Merkel-Hollande-Putin: What Will Be Ukraine's Fate? - Russia Insider


Impossible to say if yesterday's Moscow meeting brought peace any closer




Last evening an emergency meeting between Germany’s Angela Merkel, France’s Francois Hollande, and Russian’s Vladimir Putin took place at the Kremlin.
The event could not have been more mysterious if orchestrated by Hollywood. For nearly four hours the three met behind closed doors in the Kremlin to try and mediate a Ukraine civil war.
Now the world waits on “substantive” agreements made, while surely many promises have to be broken. As for real answers, here’s some thought points.
For those of us outside the Kremlin walls, outside the front gates of the White House or Whitehall, Ukraine is an utter catastrophe few understand. This is for very good reasons.
As a correspondent who’s studied the situation into the night hours, believe me the civil war there holds many a mystery. Mainstream media in the west, the continual droning out of Kiev, they leave us all wanting for real answers.
As for Russia media, or even the cries from the region proclaimed “Novorossiya” on social media? Well, the Washington led propaganda machine has muddied almost ALL the public’s belief systems.
News these days, it’s as seemingly unbelievable and noisy as cannon fire in Donetsk. Like citizens there, most of us just go about our business in silent prayer; “Please God, save me from the bombs, my family needs me.”
What a stunning mess our world leaders have made of Europe. As the EU’s chosen ones approach the great Russian bear yet again, only a very few things seem transparent at all.
The outcome of those talks will most certainly reveal a hundred promises unkept. I think it was Aristophanes who said:
“To win the people, always cook them some savoury that pleases them.”

 

MHz

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I'm thinking this would be a bad plan, and you wonder who the warmonger is between the two nations.

Georgia's Saakashvili: A US-Armed Ukraine Could 'Capture All of Russia' / Sputnik International
Mikhail Saakashvili, the former president of Georgia, told Ukrainian television that with the appropriate knowledge, skills and weaponry, the Ukrainian military could "capture the whole of Russia."
 

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what do I mean...I don't understand what you are saying sorry

so if we don't go and help the Ukaraine you believe Putin will attack us? So this is not humanitarian? We are going to make a stand now to save a bigger war later, is that what you mean?

You believe that by being over there fighting we are going to stop ISIS this way? How many years should we commit to this? How many lives?

I don't think we are remaining quiet. We have stated our defiance quite strongly. I do not believe us being over there is going to do what we hope which is to eliminate ISIS. I believe we need to start here and stay here. Or at least I am leaning more that way.

I don't think Putin will ever attack us but he can and will roll across some other countries in Europe until he has regained control of all the former Soviet Union territory unless the west puts up a united defense. Which eastern European country will be next is the question.
 

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no

they are not western

there is no amount of money to buy off someone who believes something strongly enough to die for it, they fear losing their soul for eternity....money is nothing compared to that
So basically you are saying they aren't going for the 10% less offer and now they are demanding 10% more. I can see why it is promoted that dealing with 'them' is next to impossible.

Fair enough but we can't let our own selves get lost in the fight, otherwise we lose even if we win.
We are safe, Putin has already said Russia has enough tundra to last them well into the next century. If that doesn't make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside I don't know what would. Homesteaders permit for Eastern Russia perhaps?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw3oDtFGjH4
 

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Napoleon wintering in Kyiv.

Close, but no cigar.

There is no coherence in Obasma's pseudo policy. If one wants an empire then fight. If one doesn't want to fight one should be a neo-isolationist. Obasma's pseudo policy is neither fish nor fowl. It's a chimera.

I bet the Ukrainians now regret giving up their nukes in exchange for empty promises.

PS: Canada has more land than it needs. Canada should cede some land to Ukraine, let the Ukes move in, and the Ukes would be happy to live have a new country in North America. jk

Is ISIS any more formidable than Hitler and the Japs in W.W.II?

No. But the Americans are a shadow of their former selves. No heart, and even less willpower.

so how do we do this?

Tell the Mexicans that Russia has lots of low skilled jobs and an open border.
 

MHz

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We mess up Mexico and then ship their kids off to Russia because they are useless to us? Aren't they sheltering enough people from our campaign in the Ukraine?