Myself I will stay away from Farmed Salmon for a tad.

[relic]

Relax ! You don'y think the government would let anything bad happen to it's constituants,do you ?
Really though,I think this farmed fish thing is a red herring,they {not the herring}have all the same stuff wild fish have,just concentrated.I'd sooner eat a farmed fish{I prefer char}than eat California lettuce.

 

[petros]

Mmmmm pickled herring and vodka.

 

[Tonington]

I think this farmed fish thing is a red herring,they {not the herring}have all the same stuff wild fish have,just concentrated.

Not really true. Very unlikely to get tapeworm for example from farmed salmon. The life cycle of the tapeworm takes it from egg, into copepods, which are eaten by smaller fish, and then eaten by the salmon. Wild salmon eat other fish. Farmed salmon eat pellets of engineered feed.

So in fact you're less likely to get a parasitic infection from eating farmed salmon. The farmed salmon is removed from the life cycle of the parasite.

 

[petros]

Not really true. Very unlikely to get tapeworm for example from farmed salmon. The life cycle of the tapeworm takes it from egg, into copepods, which are eaten by smaller fish, and then eaten by the salmon. Wild salmon eat other fish. Farmed salmon eat pellets of engineered feed.

So in fact you're less likely to get a parasitic infection from eating farmed salmon. The farmed salmon is removed from the life cycle of the parasite.

If salmon were as tasty as bacon nobody would care. Pork is by far the leading carrier.

 

[Goober]

If salmon were as tasty as bacon nobody would care. Pork is by far the leading carrier.

Main reason in my opinion for the dietary laws on pork.
The ancient history when people read of Priest slathering animals and reading the entrails for signs of success in War. People today laugh. They we looking for signs of disease. Armies foraged. They cannot be fed if the animals are dying from disease.

 

[bill barilko]

Slaughter and sell, but make sure the virus doesn't spread to more cattle.

And this Ladeez & Genullmen is what the corporate apologists don't want to talk about-talk around talk around talk around all day long but never about-because.....the diseases endemic to Atlantic Salmon are now found in the Pacific Ocean.

And how did they get there?

Atlantic Salmon eggs.

And have they jumped the species barrier?

The answer to the last question is Yes-which has resulted in an unprecedented effort on the part of farm fish concerns to have their paid toadies and gov't flunkies do whatever they can to shut down those who have brought this travesty to public attention-to the point of decertifying any laboratory that processes samples that show the disease present.

Make no mistake the farmed salmon industry here in BC is scared sh!tless over this-the tone of apologies/bull/lies their paid stooges post on the net is becoming more and more strident even threatening as the truth becomes known.

 

[Tonington]

Unsubstantiated bull. I assume you're talking about ISA, in which case there is no confirmation that the virus is present in BC.

 

[#juan]

The only farmed salmon I know of in B.C. are the Atlantic salmon and they are awful. The meat has a mealy
texture that is nothing like the local salmon. Why not pick a species that is less dangerous to the local fish?

 

[L Gilbert]

Never been sick from eating fish (raw or cooked). And I don't mind whether it's fish that I yanked out of the drink or farmed fish. As long as it isn't that Atlantic crap people call "salmon".
BTW, I tried that Atlantic crap and tried the farmed trout from a friend across the lake. Didn't notice much diff between farmed trout and wild trout cept it was a bit less firm-fleshed and a bit fattier (lack of exercise and a weird diet, IMO). There's an immense difference between a wild pink or sockeye than that Atlantic crap. I'll pass on the Atlantic crap, thanks, as I've eaten whitefish that were better.

 

[karrie]

Again this all strikes me as 'new farming' issues. I know plenty of people who complain about the taste and texture of factory farmed chicken when compared to their farm raised, free range. But we've gotten so used to the idea that chickens are farmed, that we've stopped even noticing or questioning the practise.

 

[L Gilbert]

Again this all strikes me as 'new farming' issues. I know plenty of people who complain about the taste and texture of factory farmed chicken when compared to their farm raised, free range. But we've gotten so used to the idea that chickens are farmed, that we've stopped even noticing or questioning the practise.

What texture and taste? lol

 

[Tonington]

The only farmed salmon I know of in B.C. are the Atlantic salmon and they are awful. The meat has a mealy
texture that is nothing like the local salmon. Why not pick a species that is less dangerous to the local fish?

Chinook and coho are farmed in BC. The danger of farmed fish residing near wild fish is still controversial, in that there isn't any consensus emerging from the studies to date. But if you were going to take the position that farmed fish next to wild fish pose a risk, then undeniably the larger risk would be in animals that do share disease. Coho and chinook salmon can transmit all diseases for which they are susceptible, from wild to farmed and from farmed to wild.

Atlantic salmon on the other hand succumb to diseases that Pacific salmon do not. The ISA mentioned in this thread is one example. ISA kills Atlantic salmon but not Pacific salmonids. Also, Pacific salmon are carriers of a virus that devastate Atlantic salmon. Infectious Hematopoietic Necrosis is the disease and it's found in Pacific salmonids from California all the way up to Alaska. The virus is non-clinical in Pacific salmonids, only causing clinical infection experimentally in extremely high densities and with very small fish.

 

[#juan]

Chinook and coho are farmed in BC. The danger of farmed fish residing near wild fish is still controversial, in that there isn't any consensus emerging from the studies to date. But if you were going to take the position that farmed fish next to wild fish pose a risk, then undeniably the larger risk would be in animals that do share disease. Coho and chinook salmon can transmit all diseases for which they are susceptible, from wild to farmed and from farmed to wild.

Atlantic salmon on the other hand succumb to diseases that Pacific salmon do not. The ISA mentioned in this thread is one example. ISA kills Atlantic salmon but not Pacific salmonids. Also, Pacific salmon are carriers of a virus that devastate Atlantic salmon. Infectious Hematopoietic Necrosis is the disease and it's found in Pacific salmonids from California all the way up to Alaska. The virus is non-clinical in Pacific salmonids, only causing clinical infection experimentally in extremely high densities and with very small fish.

I've read that escaping Atlantic salmon prey on natural salmon fry. I realise that it is too late now, but why did we bring Atlantic
salmon to the west coast? Wasn't that asking for trouble in the first place?

 

[CDNBear]

I've read that escaping Atlantic salmon prey on natural salmon fry.

Chinook Salmon feed on Rainbow and Atlantic fry (And visa versa) in the Great Lake tribs too.

It's the circle of life.

 

[#juan]

Chinook Salmon feed on Rainbow and Atlantic fry (And visa versa) in the Great Lake tribs too.

It's the circle of life.

Why was it neccessary to bring Atlantic salmon to the west coast? If it is a naturally occuring thing, no problem, but man has not
had a good record when messing with the natural order of things.

 

[Tonington]

I've read that escaping Atlantic salmon prey on natural salmon fry. I realise that it is too late now, but why did we bring Atlantic salmon to the west coast? Wasn't that asking for trouble in the first place?

For the same reason that livestock have always traveled around the world. The Washington State government tried to establish Atlantic salmon runs by releasing smolts in 1951, 1980, and 1981. It was unsuccessful. Besides some scattered reports of feral Atlantic salmon, it doesn't appear that Atlantic salmon are successful adapters on the West Coast.

 

[bill barilko]

Re: Farmed Salmon are a Curse

Why was it necessary to bring Atlantic salmon to the west coast?

Because that particular species has better resistance than any Pacific strain to the grossly overcrowded filthy conditions in industrial net pens.

Ever been downwind of a net pen?

You'd never forget it if you had.

 

[petros]

Re: Farmed Salmon are a Curse

Ever been downwind of a net pen?

You'd never forget it if you had.

Yeah at Saltery Bay Stink worse than sea lions in August.
.

 

[bill barilko]

Re: Farmed Salmon are a Curse

Yeah at Saltery Bay Stink worse than sea lions in August.

LOL!!!

And Sea Lions are BAAAAAAAD!!!

 

[karrie]

Re: Farmed Salmon are a Curse

Ever been downwind of a .....

pig farm... feed lot... chicken factory....