Muslims face negative perception in Canada, study suggests
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I guess Christianity isn't a religion of peace either
Of course, I'm just having fun with Colpy. Seems to me he considers himself a christian but we all know that couldn't possibly be true. I mean c'mon...get real. Like Jesus would ever own a gun and support the Conservative or the Republican parties.
I'm not sure I really sure I see your point. We already know that Christianity (especially in Canada) faces a negative perception because of the extremists and zealots within its ranks. Only difference is that no one is tripping over themselves to excuse the actions of those extremists. Most people are pretty disgusted with the actions of the God Hates Fags Morons, the repugnance of the Klu Klux Klan or the sins of the Catholic Church.
Nobody is saying. "Aha, sure Catholic Priests have done some horrible things, but those Islamist do it too so let's not talk about that." And that is essentially what you and others are doing here. The Op is: Muslims face negative perception in Canada. The reasons they face a negative perception is because their religion has been stained by the acts of thousands of extremists who's action have been endorsed by Countries like Iran and Syria. Their religious practice often oppresses women and even victimizes them often with horrific results.
Instead of discussing why, accusations fly.
What a load a crap.
If someone does not want to discuss "why" Muslims face a negative perception they should just head on over to a Catholic Scandal thread or a 911 was an inside Job thread.
As usual, you are wrong. What I am doing here is making fun of people like Colpy who point to a small segment of a group and use it to define the entire group. All soldiers rape and kill women because some soldiers rape and kill women. Since you were a soldier, you are a rapist and a killer. If you don't like it, take it up with Colpy
Yeah okay. That's your story. As usual you avoid the issue by making comparisons.
I'm not avoiding the issue. That is my issue.
If people want to say that there are segments of Islam that are not peaceful, I agree fully. What percentage of Christians in the US rejoiced when Binny took a bullet in the head? Do you think Jesus would have rejoiced?
Simple question:
How many in the last 25 years have killed even their own people yelling "allahu ackbar", in the name of mohamed and how many in the name of old J.C. while yelling god is great?
Do the math
Which is equally wrong.
No one should have a negative perception of any group, just because a small percentage of that group are completely nuts.
What is needed is a condemnation of extremism across all religious sects, and separating those people from the religious group as a whole in the context of this condemnation instead of exaggerating those associations (like Colpy does).
In other words, if you see a jihadist, the first thing that should come to mind is not that they are of islamic origin, but rather that they have extremist tendencies. The same should be said of, let's just say - the KKK. No one should look at the origins of christianity for any resolve to their extremism - it's the violence and racism which are to be condemned.
In this way, we separate the true evil (violence and conflict) from the religious associations that extremists peddle as a justification for their actions.
I really don't need to rebut because you reinforced what I said with your response. :lol:
Read through your own quote.
That has more to do with location, politics and history rather than religion. The Middle East is has been under the grip of dictators and tyrants for most of the last century (thanks in large part to colonialism and the cold war). The shift to the modern world is causing tremendous stresses throughout the ME. Religion is a tool, a means to an end. Sure there are segments within Islam that are authoritarian. There are segments within Christianity that are authoritarian. The difference is that the west has benefited from a democratic system that has given us a better opportunity to fight extremist. The ME, thanks in large part to the west (remenber Mohammed Mossaddegh) hasn't had that benefit. Where would the ME be today had Iran been democratic for the last 60 years?
Again, the Op states: Muslims face negative perception in Canada, study suggests
I've met lots of down to earth hard working Muslims.
In fact when I see a Crazy Christian acting like a moron or a JW knocking on my door I do have a negative perception. I'm just not afraid to discuss why.
If you want to defend someone who believes being a Nazi is the same as being a Muslim, that's your prerogative. Don't be expected to be taken seriously however.
Me too. Nevver had an issue, never had anyone try to convert me, never had any Muslim try to blow themselves and myself up and never heard of any attack Heebs.
I only have a word of advice for Canadian Muslims. Pit stick.
I only have a word of advice for Canadian Muslims. Pit stick.
To put it like this - I think Anders is christian and a terrorist. Maybe even a christian terrorist.
But even if he twisted some inkling of that religious doctrine to support his murders, I am not going to condemn christianity or look down on christians because of it. What would be important is that we are able to identify any obvious red flags leading up to an assault on the public, and prevent those in the future.