Mulcair predicts demise of Northern Gateway pipeline project
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Rail is a much much better option.
Well it is infrastructure that is already in place. Prince Rupert (or Kitimat) is a preferred destination in that many miles across the Pacific are eliminated.
Because some of the products to be exported is prepaid is is directly benefiting you personally?
I guess nobody botherd to tell the Greenies that ships are the biggest users of fossil fuels?
Thanks to oil. How are you enjoying it so far?
Oh, it's going to run out now?
Suddenly we go from 100+ years of oil to a dependency.
You flip flop.
It's also nice to see you've now grown a kind heart for those poor 99%.
Interesting quote from the Wild Rose of Texas party. It used to be easier to move a pipeline through virgin territory but alas and alack people are actually starting to care about the environment around them!!! Boy there is a shocker. Aside from the CO2 and other pollutants that will come from increased use of oil sands bitumen there is the problems being caused in the tar sands region itself. Doesn't seem to be any concern in there about that, or the possible spills along BCs beautiful streams and rivers, or the coast and ocean. No concerns for the social inequity of being in the population dumped on in that way, or in the species struggling with the pollution.
How does someone, let alone a group of people calling themselves a political party get that out of touch with reality?
How does someone, let alone a group of people calling themselves a political party get that out of touch with reality?
Shots fired (seriously this time)..
Gateway pipeline risks exceed rewards, B.C. Premier says
British Columbia Premier Christy Clark is warning that the environmental risks associated with a plan to sell Canadian oil to Asia through the Northern Gateway pipeline outweigh the economic benefits, leaving her at odds with the federal and Alberta governments.Ms. Clark conveyed her concerns about the project during a series of high-level meetings, beginning with a telephone call to Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Thursday. She met face-to-face the same day with Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall in Saskatoon and Alberta Premier Alison Redford in Edmonton.
Ms. Clark gave them a heads-up on changes her government is seeking, before Canada’s 13 provincial and territorial leaders meet this week in Halifax, where the pipeline project will be on the agenda, her press secretary, Michael Morton, told The Globe and Mail.
Until now, Ms. Clark has not taken a stand on the project.
The proposed $5.5-billion pipeline plays a key role in Mr. Harper’s ambition to feed Canadian resources to customers in Asia. Mr. Harper has said it is vital for Canada to reassess its reliance on U.S. markets for energy, and look to Asia. Almost all of Canada's oil exports go to the United States.
Gateway would ship bitumen from Alberta to the northwest coast of British Columbia, linking the oil sands with a port that could theoretically sell oil to customers in Asia.
Julie Vaux, a spokesperson for the Prime Minister, confirmed the phone call with Ms. Clark took place but did not comment on what was said.
Opposition to Northern Gateway, particularly among first nations and environmental groups, has hardened following a series of oil spills in Alberta and elsewhere in North America.With Ms. Clark adding her voice to these concerns, she threatens to undermine the momentum her Alberta counterpart is building for a Pan-Canadian energy strategy.
Ms. Redford has held a series of high-level meetings of her own to line up the support of other premiers ahead of this week’s meeting in Halifax. She met privately last Wednesday with Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty over dinner in Toronto, where they discussed how both their provinces have a vested interest in developing a strategy that pulls together Alberta’s land-locked oil sector and other energy sources across Canada.
Other premiers in the Western provinces and Atlantic Canada are also on board, including Nova Scotia’s Darrell Dexter, who will host the Halifax meeting.
There is plenty of common ground among the provinces on an energy strategy, Mr. Dexter said in a recent interview. “That includes the fact that we are a very large country, and we have the luxury therefore of having quite a diversified energy portfolio, whether it’s in natural gas or in oil.”
Mr. Morton said Ms. Clark also broadly supports a national energy strategy, but believes further talks are needed on how it would be executed.
It remains unclear whether her position on the Northern Gateway pipeline is conditional on the outcome of an ongoing National Energy Board review of the project. Two of her cabinet members – Environment Minister Terry Lake and Aboriginal Relations and Reconciliation Minister Mary Polak – plan to hold a news conference on Monday morning in Vancouver, where they will outline the government’s position on the pipeline.
The ministers are also expected to respond to the pipeline’s builder, which announced safety upgrades for the project on Friday. Facing widespread concern about the safety of oil pipelines, Enbridge Inc. promised to spend up to $500-million to reinforce the pipeline. This includes using thicker-walled steel for delicate sections of the planned project, including more than 100 important river crossings, and installation of about 50 additional remotely operable valves that it can shut in the event of an emergency.
"The ability to export Canada's oil and gas resources from the west coast, be it to Asia, Western U.S., or otherwise is vital to the B.C. economy, as well as the national economy,” said Travis Davies, the spokesman for the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers. “We have world-class energy resources, we are competing on the world stage, and we need access to world markets."
The pipeline is a huge political issue for Ms. Clark’s Liberal government, which is struggling to reverse public opinion polls that suggest her party could lose the May, 2013, election to the New Democratic Party. A recent Angus Reid survey had the NDP with 45-per-cent support, compared to 23 per cent for the B.C. Liberals.
NDP Leader Adrian Dix opposes the Northern Gateway project and has assembled a legal team to try to come up with a way to block construction.
Gateway pipeline risks exceed rewards, B.C. Premier says - The Globe and Mail
Gateway pipeline risks exceed rewards, B.C. Premier says
British Columbia Premier Christy Clark is warning that the environmental risks associated with a plan to sell Canadian oil to Asia through the Northern Gateway pipeline outweigh the economic benefits, leaving her at odds with the federal and Alberta governments.Ms. Clark conveyed her concerns about the project during a series of high-level meetings, beginning with a telephone call to Prime Minister Stephen Harper on Thursday. She met face-to-face the same day with Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall in Saskatoon and Alberta Premier Alison Redford in Edmonton.
Ms. Clark gave them a heads-up on changes her government is seeking, before Canada’s 13 provincial and territorial leaders meet this week in Halifax, where the pipeline project will be on the agenda, her press secretary, Michael Morton, told The Globe and Mail.
Until now, Ms. Clark has not taken a stand on the project.
The proposed $5.5-billion pipeline plays a key role in Mr. Harper’s ambition to feed Canadian resources to customers in Asia. Mr. Harper has said it is vital for Canada to reassess its reliance on U.S. markets for energy, and look to Asia. Almost all of Canada's oil exports go to the United States.
Gateway would ship bitumen from Alberta to the northwest coast of British Columbia, linking the oil sands with a port that could theoretically sell oil to customers in Asia.
Julie Vaux, a spokesperson for the Prime Minister, confirmed the phone call with Ms. Clark took place but did not comment on what was said.
Opposition to Northern Gateway, particularly among first nations and environmental groups, has hardened following a series of oil spills in Alberta and elsewhere in North America.With Ms. Clark adding her voice to these concerns, she threatens to undermine the momentum her Alberta counterpart is building for a Pan-Canadian energy strategy.
Ms. Redford has held a series of high-level meetings of her own to line up the support of other premiers ahead of this week’s meeting in Halifax. She met privately last Wednesday with Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty over dinner in Toronto, where they discussed how both their provinces have a vested interest in developing a strategy that pulls together Alberta’s land-locked oil sector and other energy sources across Canada.
Other premiers in the Western provinces and Atlantic Canada are also on board, including Nova Scotia’s Darrell Dexter, who will host the Halifax meeting.
There is plenty of common ground among the provinces on an energy strategy, Mr. Dexter said in a recent interview. “That includes the fact that we are a very large country, and we have the luxury therefore of having quite a diversified energy portfolio, whether it’s in natural gas or in oil.”
Mr. Morton said Ms. Clark also broadly supports a national energy strategy, but believes further talks are needed on how it would be executed.
It remains unclear whether her position on the Northern Gateway pipeline is conditional on the outcome of an ongoing National Energy Board review of the project. Two of her cabinet members – Environment Minister Terry Lake and Aboriginal Relations and Reconciliation Minister Mary Polak – plan to hold a news conference on Monday morning in Vancouver, where they will outline the government’s position on the pipeline.
The ministers are also expected to respond to the pipeline’s builder, which announced safety upgrades for the project on Friday. Facing widespread concern about the safety of oil pipelines, Enbridge Inc. promised to spend up to $500-million to reinforce the pipeline. This includes using thicker-walled steel for delicate sections of the planned project, including more than 100 important river crossings, and installation of about 50 additional remotely operable valves that it can shut in the event of an emergency.
"The ability to export Canada's oil and gas resources from the west coast, be it to Asia, Western U.S., or otherwise is vital to the B.C. economy, as well as the national economy,” said Travis Davies, the spokesman for the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers. “We have world-class energy resources, we are competing on the world stage, and we need access to world markets."
The pipeline is a huge political issue for Ms. Clark’s Liberal government, which is struggling to reverse public opinion polls that suggest her party could lose the May, 2013, election to the New Democratic Party. A recent Angus Reid survey had the NDP with 45-per-cent support, compared to 23 per cent for the B.C. Liberals.
NDP Leader Adrian Dix opposes the Northern Gateway project and has assembled a legal team to try to come up with a way to block construction.
Gateway pipeline risks exceed rewards, B.C. Premier says - The Globe and Mail
Premier Clark has taken the wise position of prove that you can build and operate this pipe line in a responsible manner, providing a good revenue stream for both the provincial government and the native bands along the route. If you Fuk Up we will fine you right out of your cushy office. Unlike Tricky Dix who is just trying to buy votes from the freeloaders at the expense of his own union backers. Perhaps the best possible outcome of all this political maneuvering is that the working peoples unions will realize that the dippers do not represent their interests.
BC Libs have been 'on the fence' until now. It is actually a bit surprising that their official stance is in firm opposition, rather than some kind of mushy middle. Obviously she's grabbing for a vote, but this is a clear sign that B.C. does not want this pipeline.
Who politicians that role play or the people who will actually benefit?
I really thought you were sharper on fluff like this.
What people want, and the policy that follows does not mean either are good for us. I know that you might think it's good for us to just start pumping and you may have valid economic reasons for that.
I'm just acknowledging that the policy that will actually be enforced will either come from a provincial power or a federal one.
If the Liberals are taking an opposition stance, then it means that the province does not want the pipeline and Harper will really have to fight for Northern Gateway to make it through.
It's allllll a show Flossy. As soon as elections are over both XL and N. Gateway will go ahead.
Posturing isn't reality.
This AM another CDN company was bought out by CNOOC. Why would CNOOC keep buying landlocked oil without knowing full well they'll be able to ship their product to markets?
Posturing isn't reality.
This AM another CDN company was bought out by CNOOC. Why would CNOOC keep buying landlocked oil without knowing full well they'll be able to ship their product to markets?
The Northern Gate Pipeline was intended to solidify Canada's colonial status.. as a small province and provider of raw materials to the American Empire or the Chinese Empire. It's time that Canada took the step that most other enlightened countries rich in natural resources have done.. and NATIONALIZE its petroleum industry.
At the very least we need to re-establish a publicly owned Petro Canada with a preferred and protected place in the extraction, refining and transportation of oil within Canada.. outsourcing equipment contracts to Canadian manufacturers.. and establishing environmental standards consistent with the best interests of Canadians.
The Northern Gate was a complete sell-out of Canadians' birthright and sovereignty.. by shipping all of the financial benefits south.. including the huge profits of foreign international corporations which own the resources within Canada. The Conservatives are SHILLS for their interests.
At the very least we need to re-establish a publicly owned Petro Canada with a preferred and protected place in the extraction, refining and transportation of oil within Canada.. outsourcing equipment contracts to Canadian manufacturers.. and establishing environmental standards consistent with the best interests of Canadians.
The Northern Gate was a complete sell-out of Canadians' birthright and sovereignty.. by shipping all of the financial benefits south.. including the huge profits of foreign international corporations which own the resources within Canada. The Conservatives are SHILLS for their interests.
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B.C. to outline Northern Gateway approval demands
CALGARY — If Enbridge Inc. wants its now $6-billion Northern Gateway pipeline to run through British Columbia, it might first have to pioneer a new industry initiative before gaining provincial approval.
The Vancouver Sun reported late Sunday that B.C. Environment Minister Terry Lake and Aboriginal Relations and Reconciliation Minister Mary Polak will outline the government’s demands at a news conference scheduled for later Monday. Funding for spill response teams is expected to be one of the key requirements for all major pipeline proposals going forward, the report said, starting with Northern Gateway.
First proposed by Calgary-based Enbridge six years ago, the goal of the project is to transport more than 500,000 barrels of oil sands crude from north of Edmonton 1,177km west to a shipping facility in the B.C. coastal town of Kitimat. However, the proposal has faced increasing opposition from environmental groups and First Nations communities, with resistance reaching a boiling point earlier this month when the United States said Enbridge had “bungled” its response to a major spill in the Kalamazoo River area two years ago.
In response, Enbridge last week offered to include an additional $500-million worth of safety features — such as using thicker pipe at waterway crossings — in Northern Gateway, which was already expected to cost as much as $5.5-billion.
A major sticking point for the pipeline touted by industry as vital for Canada to access energy-hungry Asian markets was B.C. Premier Christy Clark’s apparent refusal to take a clear position for or against the project. She went to great lengths to keep her presence in Edmonton last week a secret, even arranging a decoy outside the Alberta legislature to distract reporters while she attended a meeting with Alberta Premier Alison Redford; a meeting Ms. Redford described as “incredibly frustrating.”
“Clark has studiously refused to state her position on Northern Gateway despite mounting pressure from B.C.’s New Democrat Party, which is firmly against the pipeline and is well ahead of Clark’s Liberal Party in public opinion polls,” explained Edmonton Journal columnist Graham Thomson in a front-page opinion piece last Friday.
While Ms. Clark is not expected to be present at Monday’s news conference, she made it clear in an interview with the Sun last Friday that her government intends to take a hard line on the project.
“The balance isn’t there for British Columbia today and I don’t think British Columbians will want this project to go ahead until we can find that balance — unless we can find that balance,” she said.
Ms. Clark said she “gave a heads up” to her counterparts in Alberta and Saskatchewan last week, as well as a phone call to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, about what Monday’s announcement would entail, “Because I don’t want my colleagues… to be surprised.”
Northern Gateway: British Columbia to outline government's demands for project approval | Energy | News | Financial Post
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