ROFLMFAO..@...U...... whatever you say cliffy...... but in reality..... you are as bad as coldstream.... just at the opposite end of the spectrum.
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ROFLMFAO..@...U...... whatever you say cliffy...... but in reality..... you are as bad as coldstream.... just at the opposite end of the spectrum.
This statement of such deep disrespect and hatred has you as the only person on my Ignore list, in all of my time on the Internet. Congratulations.
Good Gried, cliffy, you know nothing about me. I too left the Church, really for all of my twenties and then some, and returned when i realized the what a barren desert the world was without the reality of God. Once i realized that the modern secular philosophies were not only without any spiritual sucor, but without integrity as well, i knew that i was being conned by the sophistry of the atheistic and relativistic humanism, that is rampant, and in control, of the West now.
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sigh.. but it's still child abuse, homosexuality is still a moral and behavioural pathology formed of stunted sexual maturity, narcissism, infantile fixations, futile carnal obsession. It is characterised by predation, promiscuity and exploitation.. not an environment any rational and sane society would impose on a child. I can't change the true nature of things. :shrug: :-|
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Not only are girls indoctrinated from childhood into roles of sexual subservience to men in their 50s or beyond. But most young men who are born into these plural marriages are evicted as soon as they reach the age of majority, usually with little more than a one way bus ticket and few bucks in their pocket. They represent challenges to the sexual designs of the Winston Blackmore and his ilk on adolescent girls, who are usually married off at 14. This guy is as decrepit, spiritually deformed and predatious as you can get.
Couldn't handle reality so you turned to fantasy. As I have stated before, trying to get spiritual nourishment from a two thousand year old book is like trying to suck milk from the breast of a woman who has been dead that long. Your connection to the divine is in life, not dusty old books or corrupt and decadent old institutions. I may not know the person behind the handle "coldstream" but I know what "coldstream" says on this forum, and it is full of hate and prejudice. Not the thoughts of a rational and loving person, but the rantings of a religious fanatic. If you want to be seen other than that, may I suggest that you tone down the rhetoric and at least attempt to sound sane.
As I said earlier, I have a sister who was involved with the Mormon church and everything coldstream says is true. My sister was a member for over thirty years and the practices of elders like Blackmore finally drove them right out of the church.
Good Day Gerryh,
I try to but it is difficult when responding to irrational and illogical statements.
I will think better of Mormon polygamy as soon as their women start taking multiple husbands.
Despite the fact that I defend the right of consenting adults to form stable, legal family units that suit them, I doubt I'll ever think well of Mormon polygamy specifically, as it strikes me that the Mormon culture in its polygamous sects, and even largely in the Mormons I've met in my home town, is very isolating. I don't think it benefits anyone to be raised or to live in isolation of other cultural factors.
Now... while it's not a politically correct opinion, I do believe that a healthy traditional family is the best environment for a child to be brought up in.
BUT... where my opinion widely differs from zealots, is the fact that I am more than aware that 'healthy' is rare, and so, any stable, healthy environment should be encouraged, even if it falls outside of the traditional family unit.
The traditional family unit is the extended family. The nuclear family is recent (since the industrial revolution) and is dysfunctional because it is un-natural. Humans have lived as tribal beings for 10s of thousands of years.
The nuclear family configuration is too stressful, requires too much time to provide for sufficient parenting. In the extended families, the raising of the children was everybody's business. The workload was spread out over many hands. Children were included in all the work necessary to maintain and grow.
Today, more often than not, are left to their own devices because Ma and Pa are too busy paying mortgages (or rent), groceries, cars, cell phones, etc. I think the divorce rate can be attributed to the fact that most people are too busy to grow together. They lose track of who they are and why they chose to be with this person. By the time the children have grown, if they are still together, people have become strangers to themselves and their spouses.
Then "a barren desert the world was without the reality of God", "without any spiritual sucor, but without integrity" was probably what you were expecting to see.
Funny thing is, I see wonderful people all over the place, beauty in nature sans deities, extremely pleasurable things like art, music, and things of that sort. You see what you look for unless you take your blinders off and open the safe you've enclosed your mind in. You reap what you sow.