7 & 3/4 more years of whining and moaning.
.. That, in itself is more than worth the cost of admission
.. That, in itself is more than worth the cost of admission
More people trust Trump than the media
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We've already been through this.... Never, ever, take off the hockey helmet that your mom bought you all those years ago.
trump is a cross between jimmy jones and jimmy swaggert narcissistic sociopath con man cult leader.
I had sinned , help yourself to some refreshing koolaid
I had sinned , help yourself to some refreshing koolaid
Trump is not admitting any sin and I don't believe that he will ... even to the bitter end of his presidency. Nixon never understood what he did wrong, either.
Holy S*it, JLM..............I must have missed the part where Mr Bigly corrected anyone's pronunciations. Got any clips, vids, quotes???
Some would have us believe that every word spoken by Trump wasn't in some way programmed by Bannon - designed to do nothing more than to cause confusion, spread lies, obfuscate and give alt-right news a platform.
Tell me, JLM when was the last time you watched any newscast and got the entire story? Been awhile for me which is why if I'm interested enough, I take steps to track down more details. It may take a bit of diligence and persistence, but if the truth is what you are after, it's the only way to get it these days. Even then, you have to have the intelligence to recognize that some sources of news have no legitimacy what-so-ever as there is no basis in fact for what they are writing or saying. The truth is out there.
The truth is attainable, Mok..........though you really have to search hard to find it sometimes.
Trump is exactly what he is supposed to be, grumpy - a front for Bannon's policies. Someone able by the sheer force of his personality to deflect, disdain, discombobulate and generally cause enough confusion to disguise what is really going on behind the scenes and who really wields the power in this administration.
Please explain to us rubes what Nixon did wrong .
I really think you have gone unhinged with this Bannon stuff . I used to think of you as a bright well informed poster , but am beginning to wonder if Conspiracy Now is your choice of alt. news .
Ah yes, the man who said "When a President does it, it's not illegal."
And now we appear to have a similar thinking person in the White House. Ah well, in the end, it didn't go well for Richard so there is hope that the same may be true for this person.
Yes, and then there is this clown. Lindsay Graham (Gram) in case no one recognizes him.
funny, turns out flynn did wasn't illegal, but the leaks were
looks like you have your opinion on backwards no?
you not getting enough prison sex?
we can see why
Nothing much really, just little things like lying about his involvement in Watergate then going on to bring the Presidency down around him resigning at last in total disgrace.
:lol: You funny, pgs.........so funny. Now put your big boy pants on and find out for yourself about these people or if you are not that interested than have the courtesy of leaving those of us who are alone because you have nothing of value to add to the discussion from what I have seen.
Sigh..........I was referring to Trump not Flynn, DB - fps pay attention. :roll:
Referring back to a post of a few days (the salient point being the weather person was reading off the list of anniversaries, quite presumably people she didn't know). In that instance wouldn't one be wise to use the usual pronunciation?
Sheesh, but couldn't divulging the complete truth on a little matter like that put him in peril for some real trouble?
Sheesh, but couldn't divulging the complete truth on a little matter like that put him in peril for some real trouble?
Fletcher
How do you know he wasn't given the proper pronunciation. Stop being silly
Sheesh, but couldn't divulging the complete truth on a little matter like that put him in peril for some real trouble?
So now the Watergate break-in, the subsequent cover-up, the destroyed tapes, the criminal sentencing of White House aids including two US Attorney Generals and all the lies Tricky Dicky told before he was forced to resign is a little matter, eh.
Here's a bit of history for you, JLM. It might help fill in some of the blanks.
"Forty years ago this month, five “burglars” wearing business suits and surgical gloves and toting electronic surveillance equipment were arrested inside the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee at the fashionable Watergate office complex in Washington, D.C. The Nixon White House initially dismissed the break-in as a “third-rate burglary,” but after a year of increasingly persistent media coverage, Congress initiated multiple investigations that exposed the involvement of more than 20 of the most powerful lawyers in the United States.
At the top of the list was Nixon, the 37th president of the United States, who resigned on Aug. 8, 1974, as Congress was gearing up to conduct impeachment proceedings.
But the list also included two U.S. attorneys general, two White House counsel, an assistant attorney general and a chairman of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.
Nixon was pardoned by his successor, Gerald R. Ford, for any possible crimes, but many of the president’s men were found guilty of a litany of criminal offenses, including campaign finance fraud, obstruction of justice, lying to federal agents and Congress, and conspiring to violate the constitutional rights of citizens.
Watergate clearly—and perhaps permanently—undermined public trust and confidence in government and its leaders. But the scandal also spurred a significant decline in public opinion of lawyers from which the profession has never fully recovered.
THE EARLIEST BREAK-IN
Watergate actually was the culmination of a chain of events that began months before the failed break-in at the Democratic Party offices.
In March 1971, presidential assistant Charles Colson helped create a $250,000 fund for “intelligence gathering” of Democratic Party leaders. A few months later, Colson developed the infamous “enemies list,” which targeted political opponents with government actions such as IRS tax audits.
By the summer of 1971, John Ehrlichman had authorized the creation of a special investigations unit, known simply as the Plumbers.
Their primary function was to plug news leaks, but they quickly went beyond that. Their first target was the office of Los Angeles psychiatrist Dr. Lewis J. Fielding, whose former patient Daniel Ellsberg had leaked the Pentagon Papers, a secret Defense Department account of U.S. involvement in Vietnam, to the New York Times. Heading up the Plumbers was Egil “Bud” Krogh Jr., a deputy assistant to the president. Among his recruits were G. Gordon Liddy and E. Howard Hunt, who organized the Watergate break-in while working for the Committee for the Re-election of the President, aka CREEP.
Krogh met John Dean during the Nixon administration’s transition into office in January 1969, and the two became casual friends."
EPIPHANY AND CONFESSION
Unbeknownst to each other, Dean and Krogh had epiphanies that changed their lives and the course of American history.
For Dean, the realization came two days after the Watergate break-in, when Ehrlichman told him to meet with Liddy.
“Gordon not only confessed the Watergate break-in was his operation at the request of the president’s re-election committee, but that he, Howard Hunt and two of the men arrested at the Watergate had also been involved in an earlier break-in at the offices of a psychiatrist treating Dan Ellsberg,” Dean says. “Liddy thought he was James Bond, but he wasn’t quite Maxwell Smart,” he adds.
Dean tried to persuade Ehrlichman and Attorney General Richard Kleindienst that they needed to hire a criminal defense attorney to help them navigate their decision-making.
“Ehrlichman dismissed the suggestion immediately, as unnecessary and an overreach,” says Dean. “He made some comment like, ‘Wouldn’t the press love to learn that fact.’ ”
Over the next few months, Dean says, he became more and more concerned and finally had a staffer bring him a copy of Title 18 of the federal criminal statutes. Seated at his desk a few days after Nixon had won re-election in a landslide over George McGovern, Dean started reading section after section about obstruction of justice and perjury and campaign finance fraud.
“The section that caught my attention was 18/1503, which is the obstruction of justice provision, which clearly applies to the payment of hush money,” says Dean, referring to payments the Watergate burglars had received from funds earmarked for CREEP. “When I raised the statute with Ehrlichman, he said it wasn’t hush money but rather humanitarian money to help these people who had tried to help us.”
“Good God,” Dean recalled thinking, “we’re all going to prison.”
Dean and Krogh were together the day before Dean had his now infamous March 1973 meeting with Nixon at which he declared that there was “a cancer on the presidency.”
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Nixon told Dean to go to Camp David for a few days in late March 1973 to draft a report on everything he knew about the cover-up. But Dean quickly realized that such a report would make him an easy scapegoat.
Instead, Dean hired a lawyer and began cooperating with prosecutors. Nixon fired Dean on April 30.
Two months later, the nation watched as Dean testified live before the Senate Watergate Committee, becoming the first witness under oath to directly connect the president to the illegal activity.
In October, Dean pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice. U.S. District Judge John Sirica sentenced him to serve one to four years in prison. Dean spent much of the four months he served testifying in the trials of Ehrlichman; Mitchell; Nixon’s chief of staff, H.R. Haldeman; and others charged with crimes related to Watergate.
Special prosecutor James Neal, who was lead counsel in the trial against Mitchell, Ehrlichman and Haldeman, called Dean “the best witness I’ve ever examined.” Neal said Dean’s recollection of dates and meetings and statements of those in the meetings was superb and key to winning the convictions.
The Lawyers of Watergate: How a '3rd-Rate Burglary' Provoked New Standards for Lawyer Ethics
Now if that doesn't convince you that Nixon was a liar and the instrument of his own destruction............nothing will.
