Mom says school put son, 4, in padded room

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Mom says school put son, 4, in padded room
By Cheryl Browne, Barrie Examiner

BARRIE, Ont. -- Hayley McBride's initial tour of Portage View Public School did not include a visit to the special padded room they've set aside for unruly children.
McBride, 25, of Barrie, said she met with school administrators about her four-year-old son Casper's independent education plan (IEP) to discuss her concerns about his impulsive behaviour.
"But I stressed, integrate, do not segregate him from his classmates," said McBride, a second-year computer programming student at Georgian College.
But when McBride showed up for her parent-teacher interview on the wrong day this week, she didn't want to waste the trip, so she had Casper show her around his new school.
They looked at the colourful library and gymnasium, and then Casper opened a door to what looked like a closet with padded walls.
McBride asked her son what the room was used for and he said, "They throw me in here sometimes."


"I was absolutely shocked, disgusted and scared for my son," she said. "It's like they're being punished for having a disability."
The small room measures about six-by-six feet and has thick padded grey walls, a padded floor and the inside of the door is padded around the window.
When McBride cautiously asked her son what he does when he's in there, she said he promptly laid down on the floor.
She also claims there were stains on the floor.
"I'm going to be an optimist and say maybe some children were allowed to eat their lunch in there and spilled some apple juice or orange juice," she said. "But my fear is the stains on the floor are urine or vomit."
McBride said when she asked staff, she was told her son had been sent into the room three times.
"I never agreed to this. I wanted to know how long he was in there? Can he get out? Sure there's a window, but he'd have to stand on his tippy-toes to see out of it. The first month of school, he said he hated it and I was surprised because he'd loved daycare.
"But for the first little while, he couldn't sleep, he was having night terrors. I mean, is this why?"
The Simcoe County District School Board has a memo dated Feb. 24, 2010, that describes using calming rooms as a proactive self-regulation strategy.
The report states that "the main purpose of the room is to teach de-escalation strategies, resulting in the reduction of challenging behaviours."
In the board's memorandum, the calming room rules state that children must go there voluntarily and it should not be used "as a disciplinary measure or as punishment for inappropriate behaviour."
The children are never to be left alone or unattended and it must have a window.
Yet, the memo notes that other modes of calming students should also include timeouts and playing with a buddy in an unsupervised area, or having a red "break" card where the child is allowed to put their heads down on their desk without penalty, or go to another location in the school.
It also clearly states parents must be advised of the use of the room, which McBride said never happened.
Portage View principal Peter McKenna said he can't comment specifically on McBride's child and her concerns.
McKenna said the room is used with the parent's permission through a signature on the IEP, and would be used when they're concerned for the safety of the child or for another child.
"Every other means would be used to de-escalate a situation and it would be used as a last resort," McKenna said.
When asked if he has concerns about sending a very young in child there, he said, "Yes."
He said he's previously worked at a school that didn't have a calming room and they managed without it.
Peter Gumbrell, principal of special education at the board office, said the rooms are used as one of many "self-regulating strategies for students to teach them to how to recognize their feelings."
He said the board initially spoke with several other school boards about the padded rooms. He wasn't certain which school boards they'd spoken to, but believed it was probably the Toronto District School Board and the York Region School Board.
"It's not a secret, we had a public process, it's on the board's website and we talked to parents about it," Gumbrell said.
It's not the first time the board has been called to task for its treatment of special-needs children. Reports of large, red blocker shields being used as protective equipment by staff working with special needs students outraged parents when they discovered their use earlier this year.
Barrie MPP Rod Jackson had put forward a private member's bill to ban the use of the foam pads, but it's in limbo until parliament reconvenes next spring.
As for McBride, she said if she didn't know the room existed, she wouldn't have known to ask about it.
McBride said she can't understand what threat a four-year-old could be and how her little son could have been sent there three times without her permission.
"They never told us he was in a calming room," she said, adding the education assistants at Portage View have been wonderful with her son and doesn't blame them.
"But there's a rubber room my son's being sent to without my permission. There's a real problem here," McBride said. "About 99.9% of the mothers I mentioned this to said they didn't know about it and would never allow their children to go there."



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Wow.
 

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I kinda like the idea of a rubber room. There have been times when I coulda used one.

Many adults can. A 4 year old special needs child though? Seems a questionable tactic to me, particularly if the mother says she didn't know about it and he'd been in there 3 or 4 times already.

I've never heard of anything like this in school before.
 

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Many adults can. A 4 year old special needs child though? Seems a questionable tactic to me, particularly if the mother says she didn't know about it and he'd been in there 3 or 4 times already.

I've never heard of anything like this in school before.

I think this is a reasonable alternative to being sent to the office and/or sent home everytime he has a temper tantrum. I think we have got to the point where we are so afraid of teachers disciplining our kids that the kids are just going to run rampant and schools will be a waste for all.
 

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When there are 20-30 kids in a class and one is disrupting the whole process something has to be done. The alternative is to put all the "special needs" kids in one class so the rest can get an education and the PC crowd has deemed this unacceptable.
 

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When there are 20-30 kids in a class and one is disrupting the whole process something has to be done. The alternative is to put all the "special needs" kids in one class so the rest can get an education and the PC crowd has deemed this unacceptable.

My kids have had integrated students in their classes in the past. Their schools managed without padded rooms.
 

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I don't know. To my mind there is a difference between necessary restraint that may, at times, be necessary with special needs children and throwing a 4 year old "in the hole".

These two quotes seem to suggest that "parental consent/permission" is in the "fine print".

McKenna said the room is used with the parent's permission through a signature on the IEP

"About 99.9% of the mothers I mentioned this to said they didn't know about it and would never allow their children to go there."

Bottom line, the mother in this story, unless she's outright lying, was not made aware of it. I don't think this is the type of everyday thing that simply saying "It's on the website" would cover, a parent needs to be informed of this ahead of enrollment, in my opinion. That's without even touching on the right/wrong aspect of actually putting a four year old into solitary confinement in this manner.
 

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MPP lashes out at board after boy put in padded room

By Cheryl Browne, Barrie Examiner

BARRIE, Ont. — A Tory MPP said the Simcoe County District School Board in Barrie, Ont., responsible for throwing one of its special needs students into a padded room, needs to come out of the Dark Ages.
Hayley McBride said her 4-year-old son, Casper, was put into a “calming room” at Portage View Public School during class time three times without her consent, and she wasn’t made aware of it until her son told her.
While many people understand the need for the room, not having a parent’s permission to use it goes against the grain, MPP Rod Jackson said Friday.
“This school board is going rogue,” Jackson said. “No other school board in North America deals with kids they way they do. They’re living in the Dark Ages and need to come into the 21st century.”
Parents across Canada are reaching out to talk about the horror stories of their emotionally fragile children sent to calming rooms in their own schools.
The calming room in the Portage View Public School in Barrie is padded and there is a window in the door. However, some school boards don’t put unruly special needs children in padded rooms at all.


One of the most vocal parents, Dawn Gratton from London, Ont., whose autistic son attends a Thames Valley District School Board school, said her son has been put into a former computer-server room off the library.
“Last year, there was still a computer on a table, with all of the electrical cords and stuff,” Gratton said.
“I’ve been there when they’re holding the door to the room closed and he’s crying, ‘Let me out, I’ll be good, please let me out’,” she said. “It’s confusing to him, because they tell him it’s supposed to be a positive room for him to go to, and then they don’t let him out.”
School board chairman Robert North said he can’t comment on the McBride’s concern because of privacy issues.
“It sounds like there needs to be a conversation between parents, staff and the school board,” North said, adding he believed conversations were happening at various levels about the incident.
“Every student in Ontario deserves to learn in an environment where they feel supported and respected,” Ministry of Education spokesman Andrew Morrison wrote in an e-mail to QMI Agency.



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My kids are long out of school so I have no idea if this is common place practice but it sounds to me like schools are making claims of being able to integrate special needs kids without having any real ability to do so.
 

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I don't know. To my mind there is a difference between necessary restraint that may, at times, be necessary with special needs children and throwing a 4 year old "in the hole".


This is nothing short of a bizarre and questionable practice, to say the least. However, do the alternatives in dealing with this child represent practical solutions?

I can't imagine that the family would be thrilled about having to come to the school and pick up their son each time an incident occurred, but that said, I also can't imagine that the families of the other students would be happy that a handful of children are frequently interrupting their children's education either.

No matter how you cut it, I believe that teh teachers and admin at the school(s) get the poop end of the stick on this issue.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't
 

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This is nothing short of a bizarre and questionable practice, to say the least. However, do the alternatives in dealing with this child represent practical solutions?

I can't imagine that the family would be thrilled about having to come to the school and pick up their son each time an incident occurred, but that said, I also can't imagine that the families of the other students would be happy that a handful of children are frequently interrupting their children's education either.

No matter how you cut it, I believe that teh teachers and admin at the school(s) get the poop end of the stick on this issue.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't

True enough, I don't think integrating special needs children into mainstream schooling environments is a cakewalk for anyone. Some special needs children as the severity of a developmental disability does play a key role of course. Aside from individual incidents where more specific "blame" can be assessed, I don't particularly blame teachers, school admin, or even parents either. It can be a difficult situation for everyone involved, there is frustration on all sides and it's all born out what is probably just a want and need to do the best for these kids.

But I do think that the school systems are claiming an ability to integrate when, in some cases, that ability just doesn't seem to be there.

I do find the the practice of throwing a 4 year old into a padded room highly suspect for a public school and it makes me think the school is grasping at straws and writing cheques that it's *** can't cash when claiming an ability to 'deal' with special needs children. If they were so fully supportive of this whole idea, why wasn't the mother informed when she enrolled her child?

My son has worked a lot with special needs kids, some that need very stringent one-on-one care. I'm going to email the articles to him and get his take on it.
 

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It will be interesting to get your son's take on the situation, albeit, I can't imagine that anyone would condone such behavior.

I suppose that this issue brings up a number of real questions. Like you pointed-out, it appears that the school made a move to suggest that they were 'equipped' (bad word, but I can't think the right one) to deal with special needs students and if that's the case, I'd like to know what kind of additional funding they received and exactly how it's being expended (other than the padded cell).
 

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I remember being in grade 3 in class that had all grades from 3 to 6 and there was one rather unruly lad with a room temp. I.Q. who was rather restless and wandered around a lot, so the teacher took a piece of rope and tied him to his desk. Of course in those days problems were dealth with in a more direct manner so the child could understand the correlation between being secured so he wouldn't wander. Today I doubt if that remedy would "fly". Whether the padded room is an improvement or not I could say. Of course the scenario is a little different, anything slightly unusual happens the parents and in fact the whole community are up in arms, in those days the parents just figured teacher knows best...............sometimes she did sometimes she didn't!
 

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It will be interesting to get your son's take on the situation, albeit, I can't imagine that anyone would condone such behavior.

I'm curious as well. I've actually learned a lot from him about special needs kids. He's currently actually working with special needs adults in day care program. I can remember sending him some story I'd posted here about a daycare program that called the police because of an unruly child and the police handcuffed the child (under 10 I think) in order to subdue him. I believe his reply to that was, "Nope. That's not how you do it. This is what you do and if the program isn't equipped then they shouldn't be taking him in." But he also made some comments about the necessity for physical restraint at times as well.

I suppose that this issue brings up a number of real questions. Like you pointed-out, it appears that the school made a move to suggest that they were 'equipped' (bad word, but I can't think the right one) to deal with special needs students and if that's the case, I'd like to know what kind of additional funding they received and exactly how it's being expended (other than the padded cell).
I don't know if there is special funding that's received in a general way like that. Maybe, I've heard of putting teacher's assistants in a classroom so that the main teacher is able to focus more on the class as a whole.

There is need out there within our communities for families that need to be able to educate their kids, no different than any other family. And they should be able to really. I mean these are children we're talking about. We can't abandon a section of our society because they're more difficult than "normal kids".

What I cannot understand is why there would such a difference from school to school with how these kids are 'handled' for lack of a better term.

I remember being in grade 3 in class that had all grades from 3 to 6 and there was one rather unruly lad with a room temp. I.Q. who was rather restless and wandered around a lot, so the teacher took a piece of rope and tied him to his desk. Of course in those days problems were dealth with in a more direct manner so the child could understand the correlation between being secured so he wouldn't wander. Today I doubt if that remedy would "fly". Whether the padded room is an improvement or not I could say. Of course the scenario is a little different, anything slightly unusual happens the parents and in fact the whole community are up in arms, in those days the parents just figured teacher knows best...............sometimes she did sometimes she didn't!

See now what I take away from that anecdote is that they probably had no clue as to why he behaved the way he did. Regardless of whether that remedy worked or not, one positive that I would say we have today is that we at least are mindful of the reasons behind some of this behaviour.