Mom of suspected school shooter -- first to die -- was avid gun enthusiast

[Colpy]

Perhaps they wouldn't have been planned well in advance if there were no guns around.
Seems like there is no logical debating with an illogical mind.



To some people, Yes, it DOES make a difference.

DUH.

Klebold and Harris spent a considerable amount of time gathering weapons illegally.

The illogical mind is one that believes they can control guns on the black market in a nation of 270 million guns.

NRA says the good people with guns must protect the people from the bad people with guns and I say that the gun makers should go to jail when the guns kill people

That is why no one takes you seriously.

Well, that and your avatar.

 

[Liberalman]

DUH.


That is why no one takes you seriously.

Well, that and your avatar.

If the gun makers went to jail when their guns kill a person the innocent person kill rate would be a lot lower

 

[JLM]

If the gun makers went to jail when their guns kill a person the innocent person kill rate would be a lot lower
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You're talkin' stupid much much like Pierre's "fuddle duddle", but he'd even be pissed off at you for chewing away at people's rights!- Besides making guns isn't a crime!

 

[petros]

so, strychnine and cyanide are available to the general public in large enough quantities to kill in the dozens or more?

Yup! If you want to know from where or how to make, PM because I'm not going to post a DIY on here.

Same goes for C4. It's easier to make than you might think.

 

[JLM]

Yup! If you want to know from where or how to make, PM because I'm not going to post a DIY on here.

Same goes for C4. It's easier to make than you might think.

I somehow doubt that you'd be able to complete a sale to Gerry! -

 

[Liberalman]

You're talkin' stupid much much like Pierre's "fuddle duddle", but he'd even be pissed off at you for chewing away at people's rights!- Besides making guns isn't a crime!

The gun makers promote their weapons as self-defense specifically in killing people so they should go to jail as well

 

[petros]

So, now you are comparing a very elaborate poisoning plan to an off the cuff, last minute decision to grab a gun and ammo and go on a killing spree.

It's easier to put together molotovs than round up guns and ammo.

 

[Risus]

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So when your car kills someone, the head honcho from the factory should be thrown in jail? Don't think that will "fly".-

Hopefully you will be able to figure this out: Deaths by autos are accidents. Not so with deaths by guns.

 

[petros]

I somehow doubt that you'd be able to complete a sale to Gerry! -

He knows how to find his way to CDN Tire.

 

[gerryh]

It's easier to put together molotovs than round up guns and ammo.

Yup! If you want to know from where or how to make, PM because I'm not going to post a DIY on here.

Same goes for C4. It's easier to make than you might think.

then why use a gun if these other things are easier?

 

[JLM]

then why use a gun if these other things are easier?

'Cuz if some people on here have their way guns will be obsolete.

 

[petros]

then why use a gun if these other things are easier?

Drama.

 

[petros]

Suicide by cop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This form of suicide functions by exploiting this trained reaction. The most common scenario is pointing a firearm at a police officer or an innocent person, which would reasonably provoke an officer to fire on them in defense. However, many variants exist; for example, attacking with a knife or other hand weapon, trying to run an officer or other person over with a car, or trying to trigger a (real or presumed) explosive device.


Without a weapon in your hand, they won't shoot you.

That is why he used guns.

Any questions?

 

[gerryh]

Suicide by cop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This form of suicide functions by exploiting this trained reaction. The most common scenario is pointing a firearm at a police officer or an innocent person, which would reasonably provoke an officer to fire on them in defense. However, many variants exist; for example, attacking with a knife or other hand weapon, trying to run an officer or other person over with a car, or trying to trigger a (real or presumed) explosive device.


Without a weapon in your hand, they won't shoot you.

That is why he used guns.

Any questions?

in other words, bringing up other ways of killing besides guns is irrelevant as it is guns in particular that they want to use. So, that being said, remove guns from the scenario and this scenario never happens.

As if you're the brightest kid on the block!

brighter than you, obviously.

 

[talloola]

I see this latest tragedy fading away with time, just as all the others did, with no changes that would
help anyone.

Those who are against putting any method in the schools, allowing them to defend themselves, are satisfied to
stand by and let them all be killed, like sitting ducks in a pond.

I imagined myself as a teacher, knowing that I was on my own against such violence, and it would greatly
disturb me, as I am a fighter, just like they were,and when approached by such violence I would want to fight back, and I would
have died, just like they did, using nothing but my own hands, bye bye charlie.

the NRA is so mighty in that country, nothing will penetrate thru their armour, their word is the last
word, 'over my cold dead body', isn't that their pet saying, but they won't get
any co operation re: armed guard suggestion.

There is a middle ground between those who want guns abolished, and the NRA, but no one will ever see
it, the NRA runs the show, and everyone better back off, that is the fact of the matter.

The NRA want armed guards in the schools, and most others seem to not want anything, so I see nothing being
done, so when the next killings happen, the NRA will say, 'we told you so'.

It is russian roulette, who is next.

Won't be long till this last attack will be a fading memory, and all will be back to 'business as usual'.

 

[petros]

I imagined myself as a teacher, knowing that I was on my own against such violence, and it would greatly
disturb me, as I am a fighter, just like they were,and when approached by such violence I would want to fight back, and I would
have died, just like they did, using nothing but my own hands, bye bye charlie.

Now try imagining yourself as a psych nurse working in a well funded facility with all the resources at your disposal working with disturbed kids helping to find realistic solutions to real problems averting violence long before the seed of hatred blooms into a violent spree of death and chaos.

Or is that not dramatic enough to inspire you to petition the powers that be to get off their asses and do something that directly impacts the root of the issue at hand?

You are confronted daily by people with mental health issues.

As a "fighter" have you fought any battles for those who can't get the help they need?

 

[petros]

Suicide by cop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This form of suicide functions by exploiting this trained reaction. The most common scenario is pointing a firearm at a police officer or an innocent person, which would reasonably provoke an officer to fire on them in defense. However, many variants exist; for example, attacking with a knife or other hand weapon, trying to run an officer or other person over with a car, or trying to trigger a (real or presumed) explosive device.


Without a weapon in your hand, they won't shoot you.

That is why he used guns.

Any questions?

in other words, bringing up other ways of killing besides guns is irrelevant as it is guns in particular that they want to use. So, that being said, remove guns from the scenario and this scenario never happens.

Is it time for bi-focals?

 

[JLM]

I see this latest tragedy fading away with time, just as all the others did, with no changes that would
help anyone.

Those who are against putting any method in the schools, allowing them to defend themselves, are satisfied to
stand by and let them all be killed, like sitting ducks in a pond.

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The problem is what do we defend against and where? This time it was a school, next time it might a hospital, church, night club, movie theatre. This time it was a gun, next time it might a bomb. Ironically on the day this happened I went to my grand daughter's school at lunch break to give her some money she needed. I went to the office where they didn't know me from Adam's off ox, I asked for my grand daughter by name but they weren't the least bit concerned about who I was. I could have blown the place up right there for all they knew. If there was a practical defense I MIGHT be all for it. But what kind of life do we have if we are living in fear all the time? Nobody wants to see anyone die, but what's the use if we can't live either?

 

[Colpy]

Hopefully you will be able to figure this out: Deaths by autos are accidents. Not so with deaths by guns.
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Never heard of vehicular homicide??

How about stabbnigs??

If I use my Ginzu magic knife to cut someone into chopped liver, should the knife company be sued into non-existence???

How about Louisville Sluggers??

If someone clubs someone dead, should the manufacturer be sued??

You don't think this stuff through, do you??

Big surprise there.

 

[talloola]

Now try imagining yourself as a psych nurse working in a well funded facility with all the resources at your disposal working with disturbed kids helping to find realistic solutions to real problems averting violence long before the seed of hatred blooms into a violent spree of death and chaos.

Or is that not dramatic enough to inspire you to petition the powers that be to get off their asses and do something that directly impacts the root of the issue at hand?

You are confronted daily by people with mental health issues.

As a "fighter" have you fought any battles for those who can't get the help they need?

At the moment my energy is for those dead people, who died needlessly.

I saw the powers to be kick all of the mentally ill people out onto the street many years ago, explaining
that they should be mixing with the mainstream, which should make them feel better about themselves.
I didn't feel good about that at the time, it was all about money, everything in government is all
about money, rather, they should have cleaned up the attitudes and the approach to mental illness by
the professionals working in those institutions.

My time and energy most of my life was for youth sports, and bringing up my four daughters.

Sports and the positive things that it gives our youth is so important in life, and does much
to keep away emotional problems, while building a strong mental and physical approach to life.

That is what I saw working with all of those young people over the years.

No, I'm not about to involve myself at this time in my life.