Molester, dad abused boy while mom watched

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I am struck on this issue.

I read the entire thread too....

Let me make a few points:

Sexual abuse and pedophilia is not curable.

IMO, murder is equal to sexual abuse, one is physical and the other is emotional.

The problem in Canada is we don't put them in for life.

I mean I would be satisfied if a sexual abuse got life with NO PAROLE.

But how bloody often does this happen in Canada?

sexual abuse needs to be brought to the same level as murder.

I would rather have life in prison with no parole then death sentence..

But we can't say 30 years, because the repeat on these people is VERY VERY HIGH!

But death penalty is not happening in Canada and it probably never will now.

But I do believe in the death penalty for narotic murders: eg. Scott Peterson or sexual offenders.

In my opinion is eliminates any risk of repeat offenses and prevents further harm to children.

And, please self, please do not take this too offense.

Your son when he was molested by his father... you do realize child molesters manipulate and seduce their victims... what an awful thing that happened to your son, but his father probably made it seem ok to him.

This is what you hear on Oprah all the time, victims feel guilty because their victims seduce and manipulate them.

Your son probably doesn't want anything to happen to his father because at that very very young age he was seduced and molested.

I am not insulting your mothering or your child, but seduction and manipulation comes into play with the victims of sexual abuse, and their sense has been warped by the seduction.

Take everything I said and throw it out the window if your son is now 18 + and has made this decision... but assuming he still a child I can't really take it seriously...

My son died last year......I do take offence that you would think that Im not aware of your points YEARS of counciling for ALL of us! 10 years of molestation by my stepfather left me with the knowledge of what to look for in my children, It happened ONCE not 10 years......I put his sorry butt in jail he got 6 weeks TOTAL Yes I wanted him dead but I was told if I hurt him theyd take my children.......My sweet boy put it in perspective. He KNEW Daddy was wrong but he still didnt want Mommy to go away. He forgave him over the years because he had a heart of gold. The girls still wish him dead. But my boy found the spirit in the whole horribble situation. Even I found a reason in my abuse.....so Id know it in the face of my children and they'd NEVER go through my personal Hell.
 

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I knew you had a son that died, I thought this was another one.

I don't know much about you and your life so I should have never judged.

I was thinking the son who had forgiven your father was around 8 years old... I never understood any of the events surround it or specifics.

I assumed and I should never have assumed.
 
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Again Im oversensitive......yall have your own oppinions.........Ive just lived it. In my 43 years Ive seen every imaginable violence there is and under no circumstance would I take anothers life.

*hugs* no worries eh?
 
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ok *hugs*

Question though: do you blame anyone or anything violence, sexual abuse, horror, etc. you have experienced or witnesseed in your life?

What do you think would have prevented this?

government? or is it just the cards that were dealt to you in your life?

I am just wondering because some people take the route to find things outside of their lives to blame and others lay no blame at all to anything outside of their own lives.
 

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ok *hugs*

Question though: do you blame anyone or anything violence, sexual abuse, horror, etc. you have experienced or witnesseed in your life?

What do you think would have prevented this?

government? or is it just the cards that were dealt to you in your life?

I am just wondering because some people take the route to find things outside of their lives to blame and others lay no blame at all to anything outside of their own lives.

Blaming just causes more hurt to myself. Ive found every horror in my life I can use the experience to heal someone else.....Critter taught me that.

As for government.....put them in jail. If you take their life thats an easy out for them. Stick them in jail for a very very very long time.
 

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lol, we would be a free-for-all state if we put the government in jail!

We would all have our guns out and our houses barred up and the nation is shambles if we put the gov. in jail.

Yes the gov. is bad, but the good usually does outweigh the bad.

Your constitution ensures that.

Our Charter ensures lawyers have a cheap way out for criminals..
 

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lol, we would be a free-for-all state if we put the government in jail!

We would all have our guns out and our houses barred up and the nation is shambles if we put the gov. in jail.

Yes the gov. is bad, but the good usually does outweigh the bad.

Your constitution ensures that.

Our Charter ensures lawyers have a cheap way out for criminals..


No I meant the perpatraitors in jail