Molester, dad abused boy while mom watched

china

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Sanctus,
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sanctus
And how would killing them help the boy?_______________

.....stupid question padre._____________________________


Why? Does killing people help others?
_--- ask the ones who did the killing ?
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Does this sort of revenge justice serve the public?
___ Another stupid question . First , where is there any revenge ? second , do You have a son? , I do , third , why should the public pay for their up keeping ,fourth , what would you suggest Padre , teach them the commandments ? , .....oh Padre , may the Lord have mercy on your liberal way of thinking , Amen
 

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Sanctus,
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Originally Posted by china
sanctus
And how would killing them help the boy?_______________

.....stupid question padre.


Why? Does killing people help others?
_--- ask the ones who did the killing ?
Does this sort of revenge justice serve the public?
___ Another stupid question . First , where is there any revenge ? second , do You have a son? , I do , third , why should the public pay for their up keeping ,fourth , what would you suggest Padre , teach them the commandments ? , .....oh Padre , may the Lord have mercy on your liberal way of thinking , Amen

your questions have all been addressed in the thread. Particularly the cost issue.
 

china

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TenPenny
My list of crimes for which capital punishment is appropriate is a short one: sexual abuse of children.
Sexually abusing a child is, in my opinion, the worst crime that an individual can commit.

Amen , bratha TenPenny .
 

tamarin

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There are plenty of capital crimes in my opinion and molestation, being so common and so widely practised by teens themselves, can't possibly be the most serious. But I am for capital punishment. For sure.
 

china

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hermanntrude
I know wars have to happen but the whole idea makes me sick. Killing is bad. Always.

Killing is bad ...agree. The capital punishment is a prtevention of more killings , not a revenge as was stated by Sanctus .
 

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Sanctus,
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Originally Posted by china
sanctus
And how would killing them help the boy?_______________

.....stupid question padre._____________________________


Why? Does killing people help others?
_--- ask the ones who did the killing ?
_____________________________________--
Does this sort of revenge justice serve the public?
___ Another stupid question . First , where is there any revenge ? second , do You have a son? , I do , third , why should the public pay for their up keeping ,fourth , what would you suggest Padre , teach them the commandments ? , .....oh Padre , may the Lord have mercy on your liberal way of thinking , Amen

Who are you calling stupid? There are no stupid questions , Just smsllminded people.

I had a son....he was molested by his father at 4 years old. Do you know what that child said as he grew older? He's still my Dad and I dont want him hurt......THATS a real Person......THATS MY son! It takes more spirit to forgive than to get even.
 

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SAVANNAH, Georgia (AP) -- A convicted child molester and his father took turns sexually assaulting a 6-year-old boy while the molester's mother watched, then they choked the boy to death, according to an indictment issued Wednesday.
The indictment charges all three family members with murder and child molestation in the slaying of young Christopher Michael Barrios, whose body was found last Thursday inside a trash bag dumped by a roadside.
District Attorney Stephen D. Kelley said he will seek the death penalty against 32-year-old George David Edenfield, who has a prior child molestation conviction from 1997, and his parents, David and Peggy Edenfield.
"This is one of the most horrific crimes that I have seen in 21 years of prosecutions," Kelley said.
Christopher went missing for a week before police found his body about three miles from his trailer park home outside Brunswick, a Georgia port city 60 miles south of Savannah. The suspects lived in a mobile home across the street from the boy's grandmother.
The indictment contains grim details about the case that police and prosecutors had not previously revealed. It says Christopher died from asphyxiation March 8 -- the day he was reported missing -- after the suspects choked him while "ignoring his complaints that they were hurting him." The indictment does not say which of three caused the boy's death.

It also claims George Edenfield and his 58-year-old father sodomized the boy and forced him to perform oral sex while Peggy Edenfield watched and masturbated.
"They deserve the worst, for them to torture my son like that, every last one of them," said Mike Barrios, the slain boy's father.
A friend of the Edenfield family, Donald Dale, was indicted on charges of concealing a death and tampering with evidence. Kelley said Dale did not become involved until after Christopher had been killed.
Nathan Williams, the attorney for 57-year-old Peggy Edenfield, declined to comment Wednesday. Attorneys for George and David Edenfield did not immediately return phone calls.
Glynn County police arrested the Edenfields four days after the child vanished while playing alone outside. Police Chief Matt Doering said all three suspects confessed to playing roles in the boy's abduction.
Police have said Dale admitted to investigators he helped the Edenfields dispose of Christopher's body.
Other charges against the Edenfields include false imprisonment, cruelty to children and enticing a child for indecent purposes.
Police have described George David Edenfield as mentally slow, but not retarded and capable of understanding right from wrong.
Ironically, the Edenfields moved into the trailer park where Christopher lived last year because of a Georgia law intended to keep child molesters away from children. Sheriffs' deputies told George Edenfield in September that he had to leave his home near downtown Brunswick because it was too close to a playground. Georgia law prohibits registered sex offenders from living within 1,000 feet of schools and other places that draw children.
His family went to live in the trailer park in October after George Edenfield was arrested for failing to move as ordered. He pleaded guilty to the charge and was sentenced to probation March 5, three days before Christopher disappeared.
George Edenfield was required to register as a sex offender after he pleaded guilty in 1997 to molesting two boys, ages 7 and 9. Prosecutors said he rubbed his clothed body "in a sexual manner" against the boys, who also were fully dressed. He was sentenced then to 10 years on probation.
His father, David Edenfield, pleaded guilty to incest in 1994. He was accused of having sex with an adult relative who was not his son.


Copyright 2007 The Associated Press.

Let me guess...the dad was a catholic priest? They seem to have a history of child molestation.

You always bring us such joyous news, Sanctus.
 

snfu73

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Who are you calling stupid? There are no stupid questions , Just smsllminded people.

I had a son....he was molested by his father at 4 years old. Do you know what that child said as he grew older? He's still my Dad and I dont want him hurt......THATS a real Person......THATS MY son! It takes more spirit to forgive than to get even.
I completely agree. I can't say I always abide by that myself...but I do agree with what you are saying.
 

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It takes more spirit to forgive than to get even.
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First , you have a great son ( and so do I) 2nd,too bad that the boy ( in Sanctus' post) never had a chance to forgive .
 

snfu73

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I cant fix the world neither can you......killing isnt the answer.
We can all work to make the world a better place...and in that way, fix the world. We aren't powerless to create change. It's not easy...and not everything is going to change...but, even if small changes are made for the good, and all those small changes start to add up, we may end up with a better world...no?
 

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We can all work to make the world a better place...and in that way, fix the world. We aren't powerless to create change. It's not easy...and not everything is going to change...but, even if small changes are made for the good, and all those small changes start to add up, we may end up with a better world...no?

I do agree but killing isnt making it better Love
 

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Well...exactly...I completely agree. I hope you weren't thinking that I was advocating differently. You just kinda sounded like you had no hope...but I think there is plenty of reason TO have hope...that we have more power than we often give ourselves credit for.

Im sorry I didnt mean it that way. My Boy gave me more than hope. He gave a way to heal. He gave me the gift of Spirit :) Some days are harder than others ;)
 

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I am struck on this issue.

I read the entire thread too....

Let me make a few points:

Sexual abuse and pedophilia is not curable.

IMO, murder is equal to sexual abuse, one is physical and the other is emotional.

The problem in Canada is we don't put them in for life.

I mean I would be satisfied if a sexual abuse got life with NO PAROLE.

But how bloody often does this happen in Canada?

sexual abuse needs to be brought to the same level as murder.

I would rather have life in prison with no parole then death sentence..

But we can't say 30 years, because the repeat on these people is VERY VERY HIGH!

But death penalty is not happening in Canada and it probably never will now.

But I do believe in the death penalty for narotic murders: eg. Scott Peterson or sexual offenders.

In my opinion is eliminates any risk of repeat offenses and prevents further harm to children.

And, please self, please do not take this too offense.

Your son when he was molested by his father... you do realize child molesters manipulate and seduce their victims... what an awful thing that happened to your son, but his father probably made it seem ok to him.

This is what you hear on Oprah all the time, victims feel guilty because their victims seduce and manipulate them.

Your son probably doesn't want anything to happen to his father because at that very very young age he was seduced and molested.

I am not insulting your mothering or your child, but seduction and manipulation comes into play with the victims of sexual abuse, and their sense has been warped by the seduction.

Take everything I said and throw it out the window if your son is now 18 + and has made this decision... but assuming he still a child I can't really take it seriously...
 

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Punishment is justified for two reasons: (one), criminals deserve punishment, and, (two) punishment is needed to protect our society by deterring crime through example. Thus, society may punish the criminal any way it deems necessary so to set an example for other would-be criminals. This includes taking away his life. The reasoning is that, in dangerous circumstances, the individual is justified in protecting himself by self-defense with deadly force. Since society (or the political body) is like a large person, society, too, is justified in using deadly force through capital punishment.