Mitt Romney to name Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan as running mate

Icarus27k

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I'm not going to pass any judgements on any candidate. All I can see is we are in a fiscal hole and we seem to have that hole getting deeper. We need help. Not rhetoric.


When you say "we", I take you mean the U.S., right? Well, as for fiscal policy, the George W. Bush-era tax laws are supposed to expire at the end of this year, and if they are allowed to do so, the U.S. federal budget deficit will be greatly reduced.

Seriously, I never really understood the big concern about debt and deficits in the U.S. It would not take much for the U.S. to get a balanced budget. All you would literally have to do is wait for tax laws to expire and then make a few hundred billion dollars of cuts somewhere. The cutting is easier to do then you might think. The Obama health care law alone, for example, made hundreds of billions of dollars in spending cuts.
 

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I'm not going to pass any judgements on any candidate. All I can see is we are in a fiscal hole and we seem to have that hole getting deeper. We need help. Not rhetoric.

And slashing funding for social safety nets- dropping taxes for high income is not the solution.
 

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Biden gets his financial advice from Schumer, Rangel, Waters, Conyers, Frank and until he got out under a cloud of questionable integrity, Chris Dodd. Ryan has all this information in his head and if he needs help he'll consult real experts. The junk science pro's will hopefully be looking for a new job come November. Obanjo already has a desk at the new ACORN successor. Dave Axelrod will go back to selling used cars.
 

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To take Republican economic theory to the extreme:
Eliminate taxes to all millionaires; let the poor starve without medical care!
 

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Romney reviewed 'several years' of tax returns of VP potentials


Mitt Romney's presidential campaign requested "several" years of tax returns from potential vice presidential picks, senior adviser Beth Myers, who ran the search, told reporters Saturday. Myers said vetting documents were stored in safes in a secure room at campaign headquarters for review by attorneys. Asked what was inside the safes, Myers replied "tax documents, everything we used.” And how many years? "Several" she said, declining to provide a more specific number.


Romney Campaign Examined Tax Returns Of Potential Veeps
 

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The junk science pro's will hopefully be looking for a new job come November.

Nah, Ryan will still have his old job come November. Junk science...he voted to repeal the banking regulations in 1999 that helped contribute to the financial meltdown. Why does he have any credibility on the economy? A number of his votes have contributed to the growing deficit in America. Increases in Military spending, votes on Medicare for unfunded increases, and he's another one of those trickle-down believers.

 

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To take Republican economic theory to the extreme:
Eliminate taxes to all millionaires; let the poor starve without medical care!
Got a link?

When you say "we", I take you mean the U.S., right? Well, as for fiscal policy, the George W. Bush-era tax laws are supposed to expire at the end of this year, and if they are allowed to do so, the U.S. federal budget deficit will be greatly reduced.
And this will take them right back into a deep recession.
Expiring Tax Cuts, Spending Cuts Could Mean Recession - Finance - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com
 

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Just a minor start- I will have more later.

Profiles in Cowardice: How the Beltway Punditocracy Gets Paul Ryan's Plan Totally Wrong - TIME
I don't blame Ryan for trying to put a positive spin on his plan, rather than acknowledging that it would abolish Medicare and replace it with subsidies that won't keep up with health inflation. People like Medicare. And I can understand why he'd open a budget negotiation with fantasy numbers that depend on 2.8% unemployment in 2021 and "dynamic scoring" that can't pass a laugh test, rather than real numbers that would require much tougher choices. It's smart politics. I just don't understand how it became the political equivalent of the bayonet charge at Fredericksburg.


The Ryan Budget: A Primer on What’s Now the Hottest Topic in 2012 | Swampland | TIME.com

Medicaid, the joint state and federal health program for the country’s 50 million poor people, would also receive dramatic changes. The Ryan plan would decentralize it by making it a block-grant program where the federal government turns over all funds to the states’ discretion. Ryan’s plan would also cut Medicaid by $750 billion over ten years, likely causing further cuts in service or spikes in cost to beneficiaries.

Ryan’s original 2008 Road Map embraced George W. Bush’s effort to partially privatize Social Security by introducing private savings accounts. Subsequent versions adopted by the broader Republican party are silent on Social Security, except to say that the government should tackle reform.

Taxes, spending and the deficit

Ryan’s plan envisions a broadening of the tax base and a lowering of individual income tax rates from a maximum of 35% at the moment, to 25%. There would be one lower tax rate of 10% for those filing jointly with income under $100,000. It would end some tax breaks and deductions to help bring in revenue, although his plan doesn’t specify which ones. The big ticket items, like mortgage interest and charitable deductions, are unlikely targets. Similarly, Ryan’s plan would reduce the top corporate tax rate from 35% to 25% and remove exemptions. His most recent budget would bring in $37 trillion in tax revenue over ten years compared to the White House’s most recent plan, which would bring a little over $40 trillion over the same period.

Ryan’s plan would spend $6.8 trillion less over ten years than the current White House budget. Those cuts come primarily from the health care programs; defense spending is untouched.

The Ryan plan’s budget deficit would be around 1% of GDP over the next ten years. It is not projected to balance the budget until 2040.
 

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Just wondering. But why did Romney choose Ryan when he could have had Santorum? Looks pretty much like the same thing to me.
 

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Yeah, that's a serious matter, but it's worth balancing the budget. Any recession caused by letting those tax laws expire would likely be brief anyhow.

Plus, that article you linked to talks about Bush era tax cuts and automatic spending cuts expiring. I'm only talking about the former, not the latter. The spending cuts are something completely different, passed at a completely different time from the Bush tax cuts.

If the Bush tax cuts expire, but the spending cuts don't, any negative effect on the economy would be less than what your link stated.
 

Icarus27k

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The Republican with a 4 point lead in the Rasmussen poll?

It means the Democrat is ahead.


It should also be noted Romney got a dismal poll bounce out of announcing Ryan as his running mate.
 

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The Republican with a 4 point lead in the Rasmussen poll?

It means the Democrat is ahead.


It should also be noted Romney got a dismal poll bounce out of announcing Ryan as his running mate.


Here's another cool pole.

 

Icarus27k

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So, the Rasmussen poll you showed is actually bad news for the Republican when you take the pollster's house effect into account.

Got any comment on that?
 

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Gallup's got Romney ahead by 2. Everyone knows that Gallup is owned by one of Romney's companies.

Rasmussen and Gallup asked a lot more people than the other recent polls.