Maryland Abortion Doctors Charged With Murder

[L Gilbert]

Scary:
Margaret Sanger's Biggest Sin.

Post all the vids you want. I'll tell you the reason why I don't like vids; some won't allow me to return to particular spots in them without rerunning the entire vid, sometimes I can't understand what is being said because of bad enunciation, etc. Print is different.

the OP is about a doctor that was performing late term abortions. As late as 36 weeks.

And I find that despicable and inexcusable.

Naturally, the "pro choicers" could NEVER accept that even late term is wrong.

And that pitiful little opinion, to put it in your terms, is fµcking bullsh|t.

It's not Pro-Choice. It's all Pro-Excuse and Pro-Irresponsibility.

ALL of it? Wrong.

 

[petros]

Norma McCorvey herself says it best.... "I was a very confused 21 year old...."

Jane Roe's prolife commercial - YouTube

 

[L Gilbert]

"But state law also defines a fetus as "viable" if "there is a reasonable likelihood of the fetus' sustained survival outside the womb."

Brigham provided abortions to five patients ranging from 18 to 33 weeks pregnant, according to a report by the New Jersey State Board of Medical Examiners.

The determination of whether those fetuses were "viable" could occur in court."

Murder charges against doctors test Maryland abortion law - chicagotribune.com

There is no question that a 33 week fetus is viable, so there really isn't any debate as to whether there was murder.

Read more about this doctor:

More trouble for abortion doctor, this time in Pennsylvania - Philly.com

"Steven Chase Brigham, a physician whose medical license has been revoked, relinquished, or temporarily suspended in five states, is now facing regulatory and tax troubles that could jeopardize his chain of 15 abortion clinics.

...Brigham also has to deal with the IRS. In April, it placed $234,536 in liens against him for failing to pay payroll taxes from 2002 to 2006.

... In 1994, New York took his license, finding him guilty of "gross negligence" and "inexcusably bad judgment" involving two late-pregnancy abortions. The patients suffered life-threatening bleeding and required emergency hospital operations, public records show.

...In 1997, Brigham employed an obstetrician-gynecologist who was under suspension for, among other things, sexually molesting patients."

Good post.

It seems the the abortion issue brings some very shady characters to the table. The doctor in question has a long history of legal problems, ranging from financial corruption to a complete disregard for the lives or wellfare of women and their fetuses. On the surface, I get he impression that he views abortion as an easy way to get rich.

I sincerely hope that he is found guilty and that this case does not dissolve into a debate about whether a child is viable at 33 weeks, or when life starts. If a 23 week fetus can be kept alive using currently available medical technologies, then a 33 week fetus that is yanked from its mother's womb and placed in a freezer is nothing short of murder.

I agree.

 

[gerryh]

The nutty right and their supporters are alive and well.

How about you elaborate on that.

I see you chose to ignore my request DG. Is that because you can't support your hyperbole?

 

[petros]

ALL of it? Wrong.

There are a few exceptions (not excuses).

 

[L Gilbert]

No one is "saddled" with an unwanted child. There are many people that want to adopt chidlren, many couples that pay thousands of dollars for invitro fertilization ... there is a huge industry surrounding producing babies, including medical advances to make 23 week fetuses thrive.

Yes. The biggest complaint I hear is the waiting period between application for adoption and actually getting the child.

 

[gerryh]

And I find that despicable and inexcusable.
And that pitiful little opinion, to put it in your terms, is fµcking bullsh|t.

Take a look at the responses to this OP. The VAST majority of those supporting abortion have NOT condemned this doctor. There has been NO condemnation of the persons that procured his services, and as a matter of fact, some have even gone so far as to imply that the good doctor should not be facing murder charges as the women were not killed during the "procedure". So, no, it's not fu cking bullshyte.

 

[L Gilbert]

A secretary? WOW!!!!

Yeah. We all know that secretaries are robots with no intelligence and no comprehension.

 

[petros]

Take a look at the responses to this OP. The VAST majority of those supporting abortion have NOT condemned this doctor. There has been NO condemnation of the persons that procured his services, and as a matter of fact, some have even gone so far as to imply that the good doctor should not be facing murder charges as the women were not killed during the "procedure". So, no, it's not fu cking bullshyte.

With 35 fetuses in his freezer he's not much different than Dahmer.

 

[gerryh]

With 35 fetuses in his freezer he's not much different than Dahmer.

I don't know. Did Dahmer keep his trophy's?

 

[L Gilbert]

If someone commits murder, society needs to do something to ensure that it doesn't happen again through punishment/rehabilitation. The doctor in question (in the article) appears to be a very shady character and I personally believe that if society doesn't step in, there will be more victims.

Probably.

Is there any circumstance were abortion at 33 weeks gestation is justified? It's not like tests cannot be performed 20 weeks earlier and results known 17 weeks earlier.

Unless there are late term complications.

 

[petros]

I don't know. Did Dahmer keep his trophy's?

Yes. In the freezer and in barrels.

 

[gerryh]

Yes. In the freezer and in barrels.

Then I concur, he is as bad as Dahmer.

 

[L Gilbert]

Bluebyrd- When you decide to have an abortion, what does the fetus get to decide? and who is acting on his/her behalf?

Give the fetus all the available information from conception to death and then let it decide for itself if it wants to live? What an odd idea.

Outlawing abortion would drive it underground.....

There's always that point, as well. Another medical reason to allow certain abortions.

Take a look at the responses to this OP. The VAST majority of those supporting abortion have NOT condemned this doctor. There has been NO condemnation of the persons that procured his services, and as a matter of fact, some have even gone so far as to imply that the good doctor should not be facing murder charges as the women were not killed during the "procedure". So, no, it's not fu cking bullshyte.

Jeeezez, you can be damned stunned sometimes. You said, "Naturally, the "pro choicers" could NEVER accept that even late term is wrong." My wife and I are both pro-choice and both of us consider late term abortions to be despicable and inexcusable. So, yes, your idiotic comment was straight BS.
FYI, we are both also pro-life. ANY life is precious and should not be stopped except for an extreme reason; survival being one of them, suffering for another.

 

[gerryh]

Let's be clear here. You are pro-life when it's convenient for you. Otherwise, you can justify killing.

 

[JLM]

Give the fetus all the available information from conception to death and then let it decide for itself if it wants to live? What an odd idea.

How is it odd?

 

[L Gilbert]

How is it odd?

lmao It has something to do with the comprehension abilities of unborn babies.

Let's be clear here. You are pro-life when it's convenient for you. Otherwise, you can justify killing.

Wrong. It has nothing to do with my convenience. Or even my wife's, for that matter.
Clear? Your clarity depends upon your flatulence.

 

[JLM]

lmao It has something to do with the comprehension abilities of unborn babies.

That won't fly! Instinct to survive is not a matter of comprehension. Failure to communicate is not permission to kill the child!

 

[gerryh]

Wrong. It has nothing to do with my convenience. Or even my wife's, for that matter.
Clear? Your clarity depends upon your flatulence.

lmao...ya...ok.... I'll just keep this off to the side for future use. That would be when you support the murder of fellow humans through war.

That won't fly! Instinct to survive is not a matter of comprehension. Failure to communicate is not permission to kill the child!

Sure it is, because in the pro murder crowd, the baby isn't human and therefore does not have the same rights as it's self centered mother.

 

[JLM]

lmao...ya...ok.... I'll just keep this off to the side for future use. That would be when you support the murder of fellow humans through war.




Sure it is, because in the pro murder crowd, the baby isn't human and therefore does not have the same rights as it's self centered mother.

Well, that makes it so much easier to understand since you put it that way. I should have guessed the baby not being human is a monkey or a rhinocerus! :lol: