Marijuana, the wonder drug

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Speaking of drugs that could have important medicinal value, how about This one for treating drug addiction.

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'Professor Colin Blakemore, chief of the Medical Research Council, who backed our original campaign for cannabis to be decriminalised, has also changed his mind.
He said: "The link between cannabis and psychosis is quite clear now; it wasn't 10 years ago."
Many medical specialists agree that the debate has changed. Robin Murray, professor of psychiatry at London's Institute of Psychiatry, estimates that at least 25,000 of the 250,000 schizophrenics in the UK could have avoided the illness if they had not used cannabis. "The number of people taking cannabis may not be rising, but what people are taking is much more powerful, so there is a question of whether a few years on we may see more people getting ill as a consequence of that."
"Society has seriously underestimated how dangerous cannabis really is," said Professor Neil McKeganey, from Glasgow University's Centre for Drug Misuse Research. "We could well see over the next 10 years increasing numbers of young people in serious difficulties."'

Quoted from The Independent; March 19, 2007
 

Sparrow

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Has anybody checked into the number of people addicted to medication doctors gave them. There is not report on this because doctors refuse to accept that they created addicts. I have a friend who was not a user of any drugs but she was having trouble sleeping and her doctor gave her medication. About 3 yrs later she was a full fledge addict, tried to commit suicide and had to go into treatment and there was no marajuana in the picture. So why not legalize the stuff for medication if it will help some poor suffering person?
 

Vereya

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Yeah. I can't figure those two posts out either, Rom.

Gee, maybe peyote is good for curing meth or crack addiction.

From what I've heard, any psychedelic substance taken in a right set and setting would be a cure for a hard-drug addiction. But I can't be certain about that, it is not something that I know for sure.
 

mabudon

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L Gilbert- I am 99% certain that the "monkey vines" you smoked were actually Hops (like the stuff in beer) your description matches it almost exactly, from growth habit to smell- so TECHNICALLY you were experimenting more with beer than pot :D

Skunk weed still exists out there- I would only use the term (usually just "skunky", oddly what describes bad beer describes good pot) for stuff that it actually fits- too many folks come up with jazzy names for the stuff to "market" it better, but there's no making lousy stuff good with fancy names- the skunky stuff smells kinda like a freshly run-over skunk (which is NOT as bad as it sounds, the scent is similar but the power is much lower concentration)

And sure, a few more thousand years sounds like a safe study period for sure :D
 

hermanntrude

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alcohol is a depressant. The first thing it depresses is the parts of the brain which inhibit stupid behaviour, which is why people often go crazy and do stuff they wouldn't normally. Which might explain your misconception, stretch
 

darkbeaver

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When did ethyl alchohol, which depresses the nervous system get classified as a "stimulant"? I see the weed is working as expected.

Well you've found a solid source for his problem, he can quit if it's bothering him. You're stuck with an expensive surgery to correct yours.hahahahahahahahahha:smile:
 

#juan

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[SIZE=-1]Title:[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Marijuana: Stuff You Might Not Know You Don't Know[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Author:[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Jennifer James[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Publisher:[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Do It Now Foundation[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Publication Date:[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]February 2007[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Catalog Number:[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]151[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]..[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]This just in...[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Sometimes, all the talk about marijuana can start to sound like [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]old[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] news[/SIZE][SIZE=-1], or seem like a television rerun. And it's easy to think that you've [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]heard it all before[/SIZE][SIZE=-1].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]That's where we come in. Because [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]this pamphlet [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]isn't a rerun. It's more like a "This just in" bulletin or a special report on one of the channels we usually channel-surf past on cable, or a really high-number UHF station on regular TV.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Call us [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]THC-TV[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]. Or the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Mystery Channel[/SIZE][SIZE=-1].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Because it does take a lot of detective work to sort out the facts and the fictions about pot today. And it is a real mystery why so few people even bother to try.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In this program -- er, pamphlet -- we'll look closely at the latest [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]facts[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] about marijuana, and consider what those facts could mean for you.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Then, when we're finished, you'll be better able to make up your own mind about marijuana, and have a better idea what to do about it in your life. Because, like it or not, you will have to do something about it -- one way or another, sooner or later, if you haven't had to choose already.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Sound fair? Cool.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]So stick around. We'll be right back after these [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]words[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]...[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][/SIZE][SIZE=-1]..[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Meet Marijuana[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Over the years, marijuana has made quite a [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]name[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] for itself -- several of them, in fact.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]It's been called everything from [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]"killer weed"[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] to plain old "weed," "pot," "grass," "bud," and "reefer."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Still, no matter what you call it, all the names and nicknames refer to the same thing: the flowering tops and leaves of a plant known scientifically as [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]cannabis[/SIZE][SIZE=-1].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]It grows naturally all over the world (except places like [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Death Valley[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] and the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]North Pole[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]), and it's been used for centuries to make [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]everything[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] from [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]bird seed[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] to [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]rope[/SIZE][SIZE=-1].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]But that's not the reason it's so well-known.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]The reason that marijuana is so talked-about today (and the reason we're talking about it at all) is because it contains a mind-altering drug known as tetrahydrocannabinol, or [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]THC[/SIZE][SIZE=-1].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In fact, marijuana plants are like little green factories that churn out THC all day, every day.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]And if they didn't, nothing else would.[/SIZE] [SIZE=-1]Because THC is produced in only one place in all of nature: in the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]flowers[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] and [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]leaves[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] of [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]cannabis[/SIZE][SIZE=-1].[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Still, just because THC is the chemical that causes most of the drug effects of marijuana, that doesn't mean it's the only one. In fact, marijuana smoke is made up of at least 420 different chemicals.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Even scientists who study it full-time aren't sure of all the ways all those chemicals affect the mind and body. Still, they keep at it, anyway.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In the process, they've blown away a lot of the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]myths[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] (and the smoke) that's swirled around marijuana for centuries.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]And now that things are finally starting to clear, we're ready to move in for a closer look -- after this break.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Just don't touch that dial! (Or even [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]this[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] remote[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]!)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][/SIZE][SIZE=-1]..[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Tricks & THC[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]If you want to imagine [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]THC in action[/SIZE][SIZE=-1], you have to start by thinking small.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]That's the way it is, anyway, when it enters the body as tiny particles in marijuana smoke, mixing with oxygen in the lungs, where tiny blood vessels (called capillaries) pull it into the bloodstream.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]From there, THC gets shuttled to more places than a Salesman-of-the-Year with frequent-flyer miles -- moving to every part of the body, doing different things in different places.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]brain[/SIZE][SIZE=-1], THC hooks up with some of the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]electrochemical circuits[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] that direct the way we think and feel.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Some people like these changes, but others -- especially [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]inexperienced users[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] and [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]older people[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] -- sometimes find being stoned confusing or scary.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Why? No one knows for sure. It probably has a lot to do with how fast THC goes to work and how different people experience and interpret all the effects it produces in all of the body systems it works on.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Still, there are universal effects, things that happen to everyone who smokes marijuana.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]One effect that seems to hit everyone equally is a distorted sense of [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]time perception[/SIZE][SIZE=-1].Things that ordinarily seem to pass by in a couple of minutes may seem to take hours.That may be one of the reasons why pot smokers sometimes find it hard to concentrate.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Memory is also affected, which means that doing even simple things, like following instructions (or the plot of a "Gilligan's Island" rerun on good old [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]THC-TV[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]), can start to seem awfully complicated.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]And if remembering simple things gets complicated, just imagine how hard it gets remembering seriously complex stuff -- like the answers to the exam or quiz you thought you studied for the night before.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]No big deal, though, of course -- not to the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]serious stoner[/SIZE][SIZE=-1], caught up in the throws of true, pot-assisted pretzel logic.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Because, hey -- you know, even if you fail all your exams this year, you can still take them all over again next year.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]True? True?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Hey, you gonna eat those [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]chips[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][/SIZE][SIZE=-1]..[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Pot Luck[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]As it trucks around the bloodstream, THC does more than play tricks on the brain. It puts the body through a lot of changes, too -- and they may last a lot longer than you might think.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]That's because some of the chemicals in pot stay inside the body and brain long after drug effects wear off. In fact, some hang around for weeks after use.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Nobody's sure how big a deal that is, but we do know that some measurable problems have been noted in physical and mental skills as long as 24 hours after smoking.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Still, a lot is known about some immediate effects in the body, including increases in both [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]heart rate[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] and breathing.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]And although these changes don't seem particularly risky for healthy people, they can be a bigger problem for those with heart or lung disease.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]There may be even more problems in other parts of the body -- the immune system, for example. Problems here could make it tougher to fight off colds and infections.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]There are also changes in body chemicals called hormones, which direct how fast and how much your body changes and develops as you grow up.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]And the latest news from the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]lungs[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] seems even worse.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In fact, marijuana seems just as harmful to the lungs as tobacco. And for people who smoke pot and cigarettes, the chances of getting cancer later in life are higher, still.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Why did you think they called it getting [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]high[/SIZE][SIZE=-1], anyway?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1][/SIZE][SIZE=-1]..[/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Sign Off[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]In spite of all the new facts we've bumped up against in preparing this report, one old fact about marijuana hasn't changed much, at all: It's still [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]against the law[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] in most places -- especially at school.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]When you add that to its other risks, you may just come to the same conclusion that [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]millions of other people[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] have come to: that pot's more of a risk than it's worth.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]And while we still don't know everything there is to know about it (Heck, we don't know everything about air or water, for that matter), we know enough to safely say that a lot of people -- including kids, pregnant women, and [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]people with emotional problems[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] -- are better off as far away from it as possible.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]That's the [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]word from our sponsor[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] that we promised a while back. Because the fact is you really do only have one body -- and the healthier you keep it, the better it'll take care of you and the happier you'll be.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]And when you stop and think about it, isn't [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]happiness[/SIZE][SIZE=-1] what it's all supposed to be about in the first place?[/SIZE]
 

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I'd rather not go into how much of the pamphlet Juand posted seems to be alarmist and incorect.

"Pot is a drug. Legalize it for everywhere but behind the wheel."
---L.Gilbert

My response is : Caffeine is a drug. I've seen far more dangerous driving from caffeine-induced road-ragers.
 

#juan

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I'd rather not go into how much of the pamphlet Juand posted seems to be alarmist and incorect.

"Pot is a drug. Legalize it for everywhere but behind the wheel."
---L.Gilbert

My response is : Caffeine is a drug. I've seen far more dangerous driving from caffeine-induced road-ragers.

Pot is the same as tobacco in a lot of ways. You are burning vegetable matter and sucking the smoke into your lungs. Except for nicotine, pot has most of the same tars and poisons as tobacco and is just as hard on your lungs. The difference is that most people don't smoke twenty or thirty Marijuana cigarettes a day. On the other hand, who knows what is in the pot bought on the street.