Man kills three suspected burglars with AR-15 rifle

gerryh

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Gerryh i mentioned why i think the way i do already. Cant you just read and pick apart my previous posts?


Ya, you don't agree with the existing law. You also don't live there. In fact, you aren't even a citizen of that country. Or are you that stuck on yourself.
 

Murphy

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About Iraq? No they just put me in the grinder

Who were you with? After Shidane Arone got murdered in Somalia in '93, one of the things that came out of the investigation was improved training. I'm assuming you were a private. Regardless, everyone gets courses and briefing prior to deployment.
 

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Who were you with? After Shidane Arone got murdered in Somalia in '93, one of the things that came out of the investigation was improved training. I'm assuming you were a private. Regardless, everyone gets courses and briefing prior to deployment.

I was a regular civilian contractor looking for oil.

I did learn a lot from the Peshmerga though...
 

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I see. That would explain why you didn't get training. It's been a requirement for years in the service. You don't just show up, but the job requirements are different.
 

petros

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I know that. The law needs to be rewritten because you cant convince me that if you have an AR--15 and 3 people have a single knife that it is necessary to diffuse the threat by killing all three... Its a carte de Blanche

In the article Murphy posted it does cover the "Heat of the moment" and that to me is the carte de blanche

An AR or a f-cking stick with a sharpened frozen pickle on the end, they violated his Rights and he flexed those Rights. The criminals forfeited their Rights when infringing on his.
 

Murphy

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Certainly, it would work like that in court under most situations.

But if three bodies were found 100 yd. away from the house with holes in their backs, the DA would charge him. I'm not sure about US law, but in Canada, if a perp is fleeing the scene of a crime, even if he killed someone, he is not a threat and cannot be shot.
 

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Perhaps, but you'd need witnesses for that. And again, the situation would be investigated.
 

Johnnny

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Perhaps, but you'd need witnesses for that. And again, the situation would be investigated.

Somebody walking away with their hands up in the air when facing a loaded weapon in my opinion counts as someone retreating.

In this incident and any like them yea you would need a witness which again creates another grey zone.

Or they were armed and kept coming at him which got them in a dilly of a pickle.


The more i think about it seems he might have got them all at the same time in an area like a hallway for example. Im not going to argue against that.
 

petros

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They sure as shit weren't running away and gaining yardage and the shooter didn't have time to make decisions when they made his decision for him by entering his home.
 

Johnnny

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They sure as shit weren't running away and gaining yardage and the shooter didn't have time to make decisions when they made his decision for him by entering his home.

Then he got them in a choke point.

Ya, you don't agree with the existing law. You also don't live there. In fact, you aren't even a citizen of that country. Or are you that stuck on yourself.

I forgot to mention but me discussing this American topic is no different than what goes on here in the forum on a regular basis. One is not full of themselves if they voice their opinion because they dont agree with a law or whatever else.
 

gerryh

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I forgot to mention but me discussing this American topic is no different than what goes on here in the forum on a regular basis. One is not full of themselves if they voice their opinion because they dont agree with a law or whatever else.


Really, and yet, I haven't seen you object to any laws in China, NK, Iran, SA.
 

Johnnny

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Really, and yet, I haven't seen you object to any laws in China, NK, Iran, SA.

Ive been critical of NK and China many times in the past. Iran im thinking i might have but i havent touched anything from SA and not because im ignorant to SA problems vs others, i just never got there yrt.
 

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Somebody walking away with their hands up in the air when facing a loaded weapon in my opinion counts as someone retreating.


Because you have probably tried that one in firearm self defense classes, that is one position you take, the surrender position, until the opportunity presents itself, then you draw and fire.