Make Speech Free Again

[Nick Danger]

Introducing partisan divides into everything is part of the problem to be sure, and leads to a lot of "Well if they can do it, why can't I ?" which doesn't solve anything. A one-size-fits-all solution has to be based on legal principles which apply to everyone. In the case of social media, using a service to incite violence should be a zero tolerance thing, no matter who you are. And service providers who don't enforce the principles don't deserve to be "on the air". One strike and you're gone. Period. Unfortunately there is a pretty big gap between what should be and what is, and the worst offendors always seem to be the first to try and twist "freedom of speech" into a right to break the law.

 

[taxslave]

Introducing partisan divides into everything is part of the problem to be sure, and leads to a lot of "Well if they can do it, why can't I ?" which doesn't solve anything. A one-size-fits-all solution has to be based on legal principles which apply to everyone. In the case of social media, using a service to incite violence should be a zero tolerance thing, no matter who you are. And service providers who don't enforce the principles don't deserve to be "on the air". One strike and you're gone. Period. Unfortunately there is a pretty big gap between what should be and what is, and the worst offendors always seem to be the first to try and twist "freedom of speech" into a right to break the law.

Free speech is really not a simple matter. Especially if you are a white male. Then you are not permitted to do more than mouth the approved slogans.

 

[Danbones]

Twitter Flags Tim Pool Tweet About TIME Story, Wouldn't Allow Retweets or Likes​

As we reported earlier, TIME Magazine published an astonishing story called “The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 Election” in which they reported there was “a well-funded cabal of powerful people” working together behind the scenes “to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media and control the flow of information” to sway the election.

My colleagues Jennifer Oliver O’Connell and Jeff Charles also wrote on the story here and here.

But apparently Twitter now doesn’t like people tweeting about this story which reveals so much.

Journalist Tim Pool tweeted about the story but then his tweet was flagged with a warning: “This claim of election fraud is disputed, and this Tweet can’t be replied to, Retweeted, or liked due to a risk of violence.”

Twitter Flags Tim Pool Tweet About TIME Story, Wouldn't Allow Retweets or Likes

redstate.com

Violence?

I guess some fakenews GMO pansies are a-scared of getting mowed so the garden of freedom can be replanted or something.

 

[Danbones]

Remember when Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters called for "uprisings" across the country? Here's a refresher.​

Riots and looting have overwhelmed many of America's major cities, and politicians on both sides of the aisle are hoping to pin the blame on the other party.

But which politicians have actually called for violent conflict?

California Reps. Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters.

Remember when Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters called for "uprisings" across the country? Here's a refresher.

“I just don’t even know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country," Pelosi said.

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[Blackleaf]

Doesn't a line get crossed when the protection of freedom of speech is used to incite violence or hatred? Don't we have laws for that?

This isn't about politics, about who is delivering the message, but rather it's about the content of the message itself.

Does that mean we should ban and no-platform lefties for spewing hatred against Trump and/or Brexit?

 

[Danbones]

No, we have to change the meaning of the word "peaceful".

There. that will fix them. No more "The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects the freedom of speech, religion and the press. It also protects the right to peaceful protest and to petition the government. " 1st amend rights for those peaceful bastids!"

Now, let's get back to watching some more peaceful antifa firebombings of little old ladies and BLM murders of "all lives matter" mothers on the telly!

 

[Nick Danger]

Does that mean we should ban and no-platform lefties for spewing hatred against Trump and/or Brexit?

Yes, if they're spewing dangerous hatred and not just partisan name calling. The same would go for extreme right wing groups. That the point, it has to apply to everyone, and not just the parties some happen to dislike happen to dislike. The tough part is to add some definition to when the name calling and/or misinformation becomes dangerous, when people listening/reading might actually become incited to illegal action.

 

[Blackleaf]

Yes, if they're spewing dangerous hatred and not just partisan name calling. The same would go for extreme right wing groups. That the point, it has to apply to everyone, and not just the parties some happen to dislike happen to dislike. The tough part is to add some definition to when the name calling and/or misinformation becomes dangerous, when people listening/reading might actually become incited to illegal action.

No, you said hatred. You never said "dangerous hatred". And hatred shouldn't be banned. Anyone should be free to hate whatever they want. That's the hypocrisy of the lefty liberals: they tell us we should ban "hatred" or "hate speech" while they themselves keep spewing hatred against Trump or " the far-Right" (which is their label for anything that isn't leftie). They spew hatred on their BLM marches or Antifa marches or whatever other march they're on on a particular day. If you want to ban hate speech we should ban Antifa and BLM and the Left in general.

 

[JLM]

I agree up to a point as I definitely approve of free RELIABLE speech, otherwise should be prefaced with the words "opinion" or "bull shit".

 

[Danbones]

Yes, if they're spewing dangerous hatred and not just partisan name calling. The same would go for extreme right wing groups. That the point, it has to apply to everyone, and not just the parties some happen to dislike happen to dislike. The tough part is to add some definition to when the name calling and/or misinformation becomes dangerous, when people listening/reading might actually become incited to illegal action.

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Yes everyone needs a speech nanny..

...who HATES free speech.

Hopefully also someone WITHOUT any higher education who isn't a sports fan and who has no ex husbands on a trophy chain and never fights with her ball of thread when she is knitting..

"PEACEFULL" is such A DANGEROUS word. Unlike firebombing police stations and geociding MILLIONS of people like stalin and mao (and BY THE NUMBERS to a FAR LESSER EXTENT HITLER), Not to mention facebook and twitter who allow child sex talk.

Man charged after soliciting a child for sex over Facebook Messenger: Deputies​

Man charged after soliciting a child for sex over Facebook Messenger: Deputies

Investigators said in October, Grady Louis Shipman used Facebook Messenger to contact a juvenile for sex in exchange for money.

www.wfmynews2.com

Must have been Carlos D at it again.

Twitter refused to remove child porn because it didn’t ‘violate policies’: lawsuit​

Twitter refused to remove child porn because it didn’t ‘violate policies’: lawsuit

Twitter refused to take down widely shared pornographic images and videos of a teenage sex trafficking victim because an investigation “didn’t find a violation” of the company’s “policies,” a scath…

nypost.com

Maybe that's why twitter HATES Trump style conservatives so much I guess. Generally Trump fans HATE child porn.

 

[Nick Danger]

No, you said hatred. You never said "dangerous hatred". And hatred shouldn't be banned. Anyone should be free to hate whatever they want. That's the hypocrisy of the lefty liberals: they tell us we should ban "hatred" or "hate speech" while they themselves keep spewing hatred against Trump or " the far-Right" (which is their label for anything that isn't leftie). They spew hatred on their BLM marches or Antifa marches or whatever other march they're on on a particular day. If you want to ban hate speech we should ban Antifa and BLM and the Left in general.

That depends on what the likely outcomes of the "hatred" might be. That would be the difference on whether or not it's dangerous.

The difference between left and right, liberal and conservative, communist and fascist is totally irrelevant to this conversation. It comes from both sides.

 

[Nick Danger]

I agree up to a point as I definitely approve of free RELIABLE speech, otherwise should be prefaced with the words "opinion" or "bull shit".

Yeah, that's definitely a huge part of these days. Things are less about right and wrong, true or false, it's more about what you can get people to believe. And lately it's obvious that a lot of the "believing" going on has little to do with fact and truth and more about partisan allegience. How the f**k can you deal with that?

 

[Danbones]

Yeah child porn​

I agree up to a point as I definitely approve of free RELIABLE speech, otherwise should be prefaced with the words "opinion" or "bull shit".

For a guy who doesn't stand up well to evidence or fact checking you should count the bullet holes in your own feet first.

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Twitter Permanently Bans Gateway Pundit For Violating "Civic Integrity Policy"​

BY TYLER DURDEN
SATURDAY, FEB 06, 2021 - 22:27
Twitter has permanently suspended the account of Jim Hoft, founder of the popular conservative website The Gateway Pundit, for reportedly violating the social media giant's "civic integrity policy."

Zerohedge

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[Danbones]

MASS FACEBOOK CENSORSHIP ONCE AGAIN - DELETES CONSERVATIVE GROUP WITH 2 MILLION MEMBERS​

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COOTER FEBRUARY 5, 2021
Facebook is not trying to hide its bias anymore.

They may tell Congress to their faces that they have no bias and promote a free exchange of ideas, but their actions prove that they are lying.
To give an analogy, Facebook is telling his wife that he's not cheating on her while it's engaging in coitus while she watches.

In the last year, we've seen hundreds of Facebook pages and groups completely removed without warning. We've seen ads from President Trump removed...hundreds of them.
Some of the pages that were deleted were crucial to the livelihoods of many people. By that, I mean that they belong to businesses that run ads in order to generate sales revenue to earn a living.
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This even happened with a very large Facebook page, AAF, which has been in business and running Facebook ads for years.
Now, the powers that be at Facebook have once again deleted a group consisting of 1.7 million members.

The group is "Joe Biden IS NOT MY PRESIDENT!"
The admins for the group said they were not given any warning:

WE HAD NO VIOLATIONS! THIS IS A RED ALERT!
PLEASE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOW US HERE ON OUR PARLER ACCOUNT!
THE LEFT IS TRYING TO STEAL THIS ELECTION!
SPREAD THE WORD TO EVERY PATRIOT YOU KNOW!”

The worst part about all of this? There is an equivalent group for Donald Trump not being their president that is an anti-Trump group that constantly attacks President Trump with ugly attacks and this group has been around on Facebook for 4 years!

Mass Facebook Censorship Once Again - Deletes Conservative Group with 2 Million Members

Facebook is not trying to hide its bias anymore. They may tell Congress to their faces that they have no bias and promote a free exchange of ideas, but their actions prove that they are lying. To give an analogy, Facebook is telling his wife that he's not cheating on her while it's engaging in ...

steadfastclash.com

But child porn is OK.

 

[pgs]

Yes, if they're spewing dangerous hatred and not just partisan name calling. The same would go for extreme right wing groups. That the point, it has to apply to everyone, and not just the parties some happen to dislike happen to dislike. The tough part is to add some definition to when the name calling and/or misinformation becomes dangerous, when people listening/reading might actually become incited to illegal action.

Which violent right wing groups have been , looting , burning and rioting ?

 

[Twin_Moose]

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