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Avro

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Ladies and Gentlemen, might I direct your attention away from the lovely and charming Mr. Jack Layton, and ask you to look carefully at his POLICIES!!!!

Geezus.....It's like a bunch of 60s girls at a Beatles concert.

OMG! Trudeaumania.....and you know where THAT got us!

lol (hysterically) :)

I did look at them....some good, some bad.....like them all.

I do know Jack didn't steal money from the tax paters like some Libs did and he didn't spend over a billion on the G20 some of which appears to have gone to some party supporting friends, Jack didn't change a legal document, Jack hasn't lied to parliment, Jack isn't giving money away to corporations like lil Steve wants to do.

Jack also wants to.....

Strengthen pensions
Improve leave benefits
Improve access to education
Invest in affordable housing
Cap credit card rates
Help families get out of poverty
Making sure EI is there when you need it
Reduce small buisness tax
Establish a job creation tax credit
Keeping the corporate tax rate below that of the US
Invest in infastructure
Hire doctors
Reducing the cost of meds
Expand healthcare for seniors
Invest in green jobs'
Invest in public transit
Get the hell out of Afghanistan
Won't buy shiny new jets
Offers a realistic plan on supporting our troops and veterans
Restricting the PM's power to avoid parliment
Introduce preferential vote by reforming elections
Balance the books
 

#juan

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It seems obvious that the Cons won't get their majority. After five years the voters still don't trust Harper.
We've seen these polls every election and they always seem to be pretty close. I'm surprised the
Liberals are getting dumped but if that is what the voters want, that is what they will get.
Traditionally the Liberals have been a center/left party and the NDP has been solidly left. I can only guess
that Layton looks to be moving his party a bit to the right......into the slot where the Liberals used to live.
 

Jack_Of_Spade

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I'm not a fan of the NDP, but if I had to pick a leader for our country out of the crop of 'men' running, I have to say Layton would be it.
Then vote for change vote NDP. I voted concervative in . Now am voting them out ! Democracy is having the ability to remove the person in power with the flick of a pen. Its one thing to overspend tax payers money but to be arragant about it and act like your gona win without even trying . Thats intorelable! Concervative need a lesson on Canadian intergrity.
 

cranky

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I support the party that best supports my views. It's conservatives all the way.
 

Jack_Of_Spade

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It's really too bad a lightweight like Layton seems have the controls in this election. On one hand you have a leader of a party who has guided the government thru 5 years of minority orn the other a leader well respected in world circles but not at home. Either of these men should be able to outpace Layton in every way. It doesn't bode well for after May 3 and the next government of Canada

Leaders well respected? Guess you never herd the expression " Honor anong thieves!" Show me a respectable world leader who truely cares about mankind and I will show you a leader who wouldnt be seen dead with Harper and Iggy.
 

Tonington

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You gotta wonder about the intellect of the average Canadian ??

Yeah, everyone should think like you...that's stupid. Most of us aren't mindless automatons. We live in different circumstances, have different values, different upbringing, and different outlooks for the future. I don't like Harper's brand of conservatism, but I don't question your intellect for supporting him. Though I do question your intellect when I read your partisan nonsense such as this post I'm quoting.
 

cranky

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Ladies and Gentlemen, might I direct your attention, for a moment, to the deficits racked up by our incumbent government, (who started with a surplus, then decided that, in the face of falling revenues, spending more money and lowering taxes was sound policy) along with the ethical and moral behaviour of same.

Welcome, my friends, to the show that never ends.

Harper is scared, and he wants you to know that the NDP is scary.
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the NDP has always been scary, Harper didn't have to do a thing.
 

Jack_Of_Spade

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Cane and able — Layton's humanity hits right note: observers



OTTAWA — He likely didn't think so at the time, but the political gods must have been smiling on Jack Layton when he underwent hip surgery in early March.

What emerged from Toronto's Mount Sinai Hospital was a hobbled political leader on the verge of a gruelling national election campaign.

Gossip among Parliament Hill's chattering class suggested that Jack wasn't up to it. How could he be?
Prostate cancer surgery and a hip operation in rapid succession — personally debilitating and hardly dream ingredients for the NDP's political image makers, either.

But the pundits all underestimated the Tao of Jack and his Walking Stick — the crutch that has become a Churchillian-like symbol brandished with increased frequency in Layton's public battles against his political enemies.

"It looked like the beginning of the end of his political career," said Ottawa communications specialist Barry McLoughlin. "We saw two things happen to him back to back, that showed his humanity. We saw him on our screens looking gaunt, older, frail and very vulnerable."

Then, adds McLoughlin, Layton suddenly connected with Canadians in a deeper way.

"He struck an emotional chord just by the way he faced up to his setbacks and went about his work. He appeared in the House of Commons after his hip surgery and showed he was a fighter. People developed
an emotional relationship with him that wasn't there before."

Something similar happened between Quebecers and Lucien Bouchard when the former Bloc Quebecois leader contracted flesh-eating disease in 1994, added McLoughlin. "It's not about the cane," he said, "but about the humanity it shows."

Bernard Gauthier, a communications and audience research specialist at Delta Media in Ottawa says the walking stick has become a defining element for Layton.

"It's become part of the Jack Layton brand, along with his white moustache," said Gauthier. "I said at the beginning of the campaign that the walking stick will go one of two ways for Jack Layton: it will hinder him because it could suggest to people that he is not at the peak of health or it will engage people.

"It's made him more endearing and empathetic."

Gauthier figures that the walking stick has become an increasingly prominent element in Layton's public appearances because voters in NDP focus groups are telling them Canadians are relating to someone who has suffered hardship but is getting the job done anyway.

"But imagine the risk of attempting to conceal the fact he was using a walking stick I think the impact on his campaign would have been completely negative."

Crucially, added Gauthier, the walking stick has helped Layton differentiate himself from other leaders, especially Stephen Harper. "In many ways, he has become the foil to Harper," he said. "His body language is different, his appearance is different, and his voice and language is different.

"You have one leader (Layton) reaching into crowds and talking to people versus another whose handlers have barricaded him. The contrast in image between the two is quite remarkable."

Physically, Layton appears to have grown stronger as the campaign has progressed, said McLoughlin. "He has gone from frail to dynamic and he seems to look younger," he said. "He filled out more and even with the cane, has hit his stride."

Ultimately, the cane is a metaphor, he added. "It's a metaphor for a fighter and for Layton's human vulnerability and his triumph over it."


Cane and able ? Layton's humanity hits right note: observers
Yes you have to admit ! Its working for him but don't underestimate the issues ! His campain was on the mark on the issues . Harper acted like there were no issues and Iggy well hes so far off the mark on what canadians want to talk about during this celection he 's almost laughable. Seriously Iggy!? Day care ? thats what you think we worry about?

Anyone who can come face-to-face with mortality and still devote a life to public service has balls enough to do the job - and probably do right by it....
I'm not a doctor but I think if you have no prostate your balls are prety much useless! OK maybe thats in bad taste! From one Jack to another I say "GO Jack!"
 

Jack_Of_Spade

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Ladies and Gentlemen, might I direct your attention away from the lovely and charming Mr. Jack Layton, and ask you to look carefully at his POLICIES!!!!

Geezus.....It's like a bunch of 60s girls at a Beatles concert.

OMG! Trudeaumania.....and you know where THAT got us!

lol (hysterically) :)

This comming from a card carring Concervative! You would have to be blind as a bat and deaf not to be aware of all the Canadian tax money missmanagement from both the concervative and the liberals. Anyone who's a card carring menber of any party is already by that action no better than 60's girls at a beatle concert. You vote for whats good for your Country not whats good for your party!

Ladies and Gentlemen, might I direct your attention away from the matter at hand to the souring of grapes.... LMAO
LOL Thats what over confidence looks like when its hit with reality! LOL

I was about to say the same thing.

Voting for someone, because the managed to survive hip surgery and prostate cancer, without losing the cheesy stach, is idiotic.
If you seriously belive that poeple are voting for Layton because of his surgery then you havent been listening or watching each canditate. Harper pretended that his Goverment was the great canadian hope but realy had no platform for his campain until the media started focusing on Laytons platform like Healthcare. The Liberal's starting campain platform was some daycare plan . Realy Iggy??? Poeple are switching and voting on the issues ! By the way to all those who said no one wanted this election guess what ? Early voting is already setting records on this election !

The biggest losers in this election are the dumbo Libs, hahaha!!!
They brought down the government because they wanted to form the next government and now they even lost official opposition party status,,, hahaha
Realy! Arer you sure it wasn't "THE SCARY EVIL COALITON" who brought down the Goverment. Or maybe is was ... oh ya something about contempt of parlement issue!

I did look at them....some good, some bad.....like them all.

I do know Jack didn't steal money from the tax paters like some Libs did and he didn't spend over a billion on the G20 some of which appears to have gone to some party supporting friends, Jack didn't change a legal document, Jack hasn't lied to parliment, Jack isn't giving money away to corporations like lil Steve wants to do.

Jack also wants to.....

Strengthen pensions
Improve leave benefits
Improve access to education
Invest in affordable housing
Cap credit card rates
Help families get out of poverty
Making sure EI is there when you need it
Reduce small buisness tax
Establish a job creation tax credit
Keeping the corporate tax rate below that of the US
Invest in infastructure
Hire doctors
Reducing the cost of meds
Expand healthcare for seniors
Invest in green jobs'
Invest in public transit
Get the hell out of Afghanistan
Won't buy shiny new jets
Offers a realistic plan on supporting our troops and veterans
Restricting the PM's power to avoid parliment
Introduce preferential vote by reforming elections
Balance the books
Right on Avro!
There you go Colpy! Theres some of the platform but we all know a card caring memember of the concervative party is a member not because he reasons on facks or reads ! He a member because he's just a clone of a party who repeats what he hears from his leader rather then examine the facks..

It seems obvious that the Cons won't get their majority. After five years the voters still don't trust Harper.
We've seen these polls every election and they always seem to be pretty close. I'm surprised the
Liberals are getting dumped but if that is what the voters want, that is what they will get.
Traditionally the Liberals have been a center/left party and the NDP has been solidly left. I can only guess
that Layton looks to be moving his party a bit to the right......into the slot where the Liberals used to live.
Or you can guess that the Canadian poeple are tired of both concervatives and Liberal lying to then treating our tax money like there personal bank account.

I support the party that best supports my views. It's conservatives all the way.

Instead of chearing "Concervative all the way" why dont speak out ! We are interested give us some of your views that you feel Concervative represents!

They pretty much keep your trousers from rubbing on anything else....

LOL! to funny!
 

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Realy! Arer you sure it wasn't "THE SCARY EVIL COALITON" who brought down the Goverment. Or maybe is was ... oh ya something about contempt of parlement issue!
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Yes, it was that dumbo Iggy who brought down the government. He will now be known as the biggest dumbo of the century.
He went Harvard, it must have been as a floor sweeper??

The contempt thing was not done by an independent judge, it was judged by 3 party leaders who wanted to bring down the government for vested interests. The three of them should be held for failing to carry out their fiduciary duties responsibly. This would be like a judge convicting someone as guilty because the judge wanted to use the convicted persons country cottage (or something similar)..
 

Jack_Of_Spade

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Yes, it was that dumbo Iggy who brought down the government. He will now be known as the biggest dumbo of the century.
He went Harvard, it must have been as a floor sweeper??

The contempt thing was not done by an independent judge, it was judged by 3 party leaders who wanted to bring down the government for vested interests. The three of them should be held for failing to carry out their fiduciary duties responsibly. This would be like a judge convicting someone as guilty because the judge wanted to use the convicted persons country cottage (or something similar)..
You give Iggy way to much intelectual credit man! Seriously have you seem his election platform? Does that look like the campain of a man who deliberatly would trow his party into an election? Seriously! read the facts please!
 

cranky

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This ....

Instead of chearing "Concervative all the way" why dont speak out ! We are interested give us some of your views that you feel Concervative represents!



LOL! to funny!

Wow, I never thought I would be acused of not sharing. like WTF?!?!?!?!

um....I have the OP in two of the threads:

- what is you honest assessment on Harper

and

- If I was Prime minister.....
 

Jack_Of_Spade

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Wow, I never thought I would be acused of not sharing. like WTF?!?!?!?!

um....I have the OP in two of the threads:

- what is you honest assessment on Harper

and

- If I was Prime minister.....
No disrespect intended ! I am very curious when someone claims a leader represents his views. because I can tell you what my views are and yes the only party that seems to come close is NDP right now . Avro posted a list that reflex this well. Strengthen pensions
Improve leave benefits
Improve access to education
Invest in affordable housing
Cap credit card rates
Help families get out of poverty
Making sure EI is there when you need it
Reduce small buisness tax
Establish a job creation tax credit
Keeping the corporate tax rate below that of the US
Invest in infastructure
Hire doctors
Reducing the cost of meds
Expand healthcare for seniors
Invest in green jobs'
Invest in public transit
Get the hell out of Afghanistan
Won't buy shiny new jets
Offers a realistic plan on supporting our troops and veterans
Restricting the PM's power to avoid parliment
Introduce preferential vote by reforming elections
Balance the books

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Will NDP diliver? Most likekly only on 35% but thats 35% more then I would expect from the 2 main parties of canada. But seriously show me your views I am curious. I will check your OP .
 

cranky

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Peter Stoffer is the NDP MP for this riding. After being a very strong critic against the long gun registry, he flip flopped on this issue and voted against the private members bill that was in it's 3rd reading. And, then he had the arogance to claim that he was voting the will of his voters.

I doubt it. We voted him into power while his platform included critical thinking against the long gun registry.