Lotto max and 649 is a scam

Statman

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Lotto max and 649 are SCAMS set up by the OLG.....I actually called them cause the odds were not making sense as per the amount of tickets sold....they amount of people who draw there own numbers are 20 percent.....quick pick numbers accumulate to 70-80 percent....heres the catch....THEY WILL DRAW THE SAME NUMBERS AND DISPERSE THEM ACCORDINGLY.....for example if you get a quick pick number lets say 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 they will regenerate that same line repeatedly to others...they wouldnt give me the exact ratio of how often this occurs but this is all part of the SCAM
I asked the OLG, if anyone has won between 20 and 49 million. I don't know and can't find out. If no won has won ever
in that range,(20 to 49 million), that could be a scam because that would show that all they want to do is ramp it up to maxmillions to create hype. So I don't even play until Maximillions and only take 1 quickpick. That way I don't even feul the jackpot! It looks to me
that noone has won in that group. I am waiting to see the gaming corporations answer to this.
 

Statman

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I asked the O.L.G. if anyone has won between 20 and 49 million. I don't know and can't find out on the O.LG.website.
If no one has ever won in that range (20 to 49 million), that could be a scam because that would show that all they want to do is ramp it up to max millions to create hype. So I don't even play until the draw reaches Max millions and only take 1 quick pick. That way I don't even fuel the jackpot! It looks to me that no one has ever won in that group. I am waiting to see the gaming corporations answer to this.
 

Curious Cdn

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One thing I noticed over the years is that the majority of winners are in Ontario.

I have heard the exact thing over and over again for decades in Ontario, except that the version here is that the winners are always in Quebec. It is a commonly held urban myth here that the fix is in to favour Quebecers.

Anyway it is typical and unfortunate. "There is a plot against us. It is perpetrated by people over there, somewhere ... far away people and they are bad people because ... they are not here people."
 

JLM

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I have heard the exact thing over and over again for decades in Ontario, except that the version here is that the winners are always in Quebec. It is a commonly held urban myth here that the fix is in to favour Quebecers.

Anyway it is typical and unfortunate. "There is a plot against us. It is perpetrated by people over there, somewhere ... far away people and they are bad people because ... they are not here people."

I've heard time and time again that Quebeckers per capita buy the most lottery tickets, while Ontario buys the largest number of lottery tickets due to it's population. I'm sure someone is keeping track and the statistics are available if you can find the right person.
 

Curious Cdn

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I've heard time and time again that Quebeckers per capita buy the most lottery tickets, while Ontario buys the largest number of lottery tickets due to it's population. I'm sure someone is keeping track and the statistics are available if you can find the right person.

... and if other posters are trying to find reasons to hate people from another part of their country, they will find them if they are true or not.
 

tay

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Lotto Max is a huge scam 100%. They will never show you the time when they do draw. Draws are pre recorded their software let them know right away who wins and if they don't like it they will do the draw again record video and post it. If you claim its not scam than why they don't show live time during draw?


Yes they have become even more suspicious since they stopped using the 'Ball drop' system and went with 'computer generated' numbers.

Of course there has been an increase in bigger jackpots since the change over from 'live ball drop' draws to the ominous Computer Generated Draws (CDG). I suspect this is because, like a Casino, the results of the CGD can be predetermined resulting, seemingly, in less First Prize winners resulting in growing jackpots......

Draws for WCLC’s regional games – WESTERN 649, WESTERN MAX, EXTRA and PICK 3 - are done on stand-alone computerized draw machines, and stringent controls and security measures are in place for each regional game draw.

Two computerized draw machines are available for each draw, and they are located in a secure location that is monitored by video surveillance 24 hours a day. An external Auditor, who oversees the draw, selects which draw machine is to be used for any given draw. Security personnel attend each draw, and all draws are videotaped using an automated time-date stamp.The computerized draw machines' Random Number Generators were initially tested by two independent laboratories to ensure the randomness of their number selection.

Draw software was also tested independently and certified as accurate. Independent testing of randomness and software continues from time to time, and it is mandatory when regional games are added or removed, or significant changes are made to existing games.

Where do the draws take place?

A: Draws for national games like LOTTO 6/49 and LOTTO MAX take place in a secure location in Toronto, Ontario, and are conducted by Interprovincial Lottery Corporation (ILC) under the management of its members, the five Canadian lottery regions.

Draws for regional games - including WESTERN 649, WESTERN MAX and PICK 3 - are conducted by WCLC in Winnipeg, Manitoba.

WCLC - Frequently Asked Questions
 

Dixie Cup

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Not entirely true. In Canada you are allowed 1 windfall in excess of $100,000 in your lifetime. If you win it again CRA wants their share.



Wrong! Lotteries no matter what the amount is non-taxable. Any investing you do after words and profits gained will be taxable.

Wrong! Lotteries no matter what the amount is non-taxable. Any investing you do after words and profits gained will be taxable.



There have been multiple winners before and their winnings were not taxed.

Wrong! Lotteries no matter what the amount is non-taxable. Any investing you do after words and profits gained will be taxable.





There have been multiple winners before and their winnings were not taxed.
I should clarify my initial statement. When you invest, any profits you make will be taxable. Investing isn't taxable lol sorry!
 

Machjo

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Lotto max and 649 are SCAMS set up by the OLG.....I actually called them cause the odds were not making sense as per the amount of tickets sold....they amount of people who draw there own numbers are 20 percent.....quick pick numbers accumulate to 70-80 percent....heres the catch....THEY WILL DRAW THE SAME NUMBERS AND DISPERSE THEM ACCORDINGLY.....for example if you get a quick pick number lets say 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 they will regenerate that same line repeatedly to others...they wouldnt give me the exact ratio of how often this occurs but this is all part of the SCAM

Gambling's a scam and playing the lottery is gambling. What else is new.
 

SLM

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Wrong! Lotteries no matter what the amount is non-taxable. Any investing you do after words and profits gained will be taxable.





There have been multiple winners before and their winnings were not taxed.


I should clarify my initial statement. When you invest, any profits you make will be taxable. Investing isn't taxable lol sorry!

Had he checked before making a proclamation, he could have found that you are indeed correct.

Amounts that are not taxed

But hey, maybe he knows better than the CRA about what's taxable eh? Lol.
 

taxslave

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lotteries and casinos are for pikers. To be a real gambler one must be a contractor and bet your house and your future on every job. How many got what it takes to do that?
 

Machjo

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Lotto max and 649 are SCAMS set up by the OLG.....I actually called them cause the odds were not making sense as per the amount of tickets sold....they amount of people who draw there own numbers are 20 percent.....quick pick numbers accumulate to 70-80 percent....heres the catch....THEY WILL DRAW THE SAME NUMBERS AND DISPERSE THEM ACCORDINGLY.....for example if you get a quick pick number lets say 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 they will regenerate that same line repeatedly to others...they wouldnt give me the exact ratio of how often this occurs but this is all part of the SCAM

Gambling is a scam. Why would one form of gambling be less of a scam than another except in degree? The more extreme the gambling, the greater the scam; the more moderate the gambling is, so is the scam. But it's still a scam. It's the nature of gambling.
 

JLM

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lotteries and casinos are for pikers. To be a real gambler one must be a contractor and bet your house and your future on every job. How many got what it takes to do that?

I may be stupid but I'm not crazy!

My sister and I play the powerball. Something to do.

Bro in law and I go to the casino a couple of times a month to play Keno. I look at it as a way to have some fun while donating to charity. Maybe once in ten times we emerge winners!
 
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Machjo

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It's called the Stupid Tax... now let me go out and throw away my $25 for this week.

Remember, if you don't have a ticket... you can't win... and OH Yeah, if the quick pick is a scam, then pick you're own dam numbers.. duh.

And if you don't gamble, you can't lose. I never lose at the lottery.
 

tay

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I asked the O.L.G. if anyone has won between 20 and 49 million. I don't know and can't find out on the O.LG.website.
If no one has ever won in that range (20 to 49 million), that could be a scam because that would show that all they want to do is ramp it up to max millions to create hype. So I don't even play until the draw reaches Max millions and only take 1 quick pick. That way I don't even fuel the jackpot! It looks to me that no one has ever won in that group. I am waiting to see the gaming corporations answer to this.

I'm sure there have been many winners in that range. This is one I know of because of the controversy that followed the win.....

Workers at Barrie plant win some - others lose some - of big lotto prize

27 workers at Powco In. win $24.5 million

It wasn’t funny, but Nick Lymbertos and Jon Armstrong sucked it up and did the happy dance for 27 of their fellow employees who just won $24.5 million dollars yesterday.

“Hey, we’re happy for them,” said Armstrong, standing in a practically abandoned factory after the gang at Powco Inc. on Ellis Drive in Barrie piled in a bus and took off to the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation in Toronto to collect after learning that they just won the Lotto 6/49 in the weekly office pool.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNF1doz2V9OUulDvGS1rRJI2yFjHIQ


It's been a $50-million dollar question across Canada for the past 21 months: who owns the lone winning ticket from a 2014 Lotto Max draw.

Friedrich Mayrhofer stepped forward to make the claim on Tuesday on behalf of himself, his wife, Annand, and their son, Eric.

He entered the news conference carrying a picture of himself with his other big lottery win of $1,000 two decades before.

"It took 20 years to get a few more zeros on the end," he said with a smile.

Mayrhofer, 67, who described himself and his family as shy and private, said the delay was because they wanted to remain anonymous out of concern they wouldn't be able to handle such an enormous prize.

$50M lottery winner waited two years —fearing the enormous prize
 

funnyguy

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I'm sure there have been many winners in that range. This is one I know of because of the controversy that followed the win.....

Workers at Barrie plant win some - others lose some - of big lotto prize

27 workers at Powco In. win $24.5 million

It wasn’t funny, but Nick Lymbertos and Jon Armstrong sucked it up and did the happy dance for 27 of their fellow employees who just won $24.5 million dollars yesterday.

“Hey, we’re happy for them,” said Armstrong, standing in a practically abandoned factory after the gang at Powco Inc. on Ellis Drive in Barrie piled in a bus and took off to the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation in Toronto to collect after learning that they just won the Lotto 6/49 in the weekly office pool.

https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNF1doz2V9OUulDvGS1rRJI2yFjHIQ


It's been a $50-million dollar question across Canada for the past 21 months: who owns the lone winning ticket from a 2014 Lotto Max draw.

Friedrich Mayrhofer stepped forward to make the claim on Tuesday on behalf of himself, his wife, Annand, and their son, Eric.

He entered the news conference carrying a picture of himself with his other big lottery win of $1,000 two decades before.

"It took 20 years to get a few more zeros on the end," he said with a smile.

Mayrhofer, 67, who described himself and his family as shy and private, said the delay was because they wanted to remain anonymous out of concern they wouldn't be able to handle such an enormous prize.

$50M lottery winner waited two years —fearing the enormous prize
Lotto max a scam maybe, we have to realize the government we vote in doesn't really work for us. the government thinks they are a separate entity. They steal from the people and then say it's their money. When it comes to lotteries why do you think they have all the control and no private lotteries can be made . Why so they can do what ever they want. Prime example lotto max. Why do you think they cancelled super 7 why because they weren't making enough revenue. Just look at how much super 7 made in a year before they cancelled it and now look much revenue lotto max makes them. Yes i agree the odds are very bad to win, why would they rig the lotto, very simple to be able to raise the jackpot to 60 million so revenue is high.You don't think the government would do that you better think again, they would. To cover their asses they hired an in-depended company from England to make sure the lotto max isn't rigged . The only reason they hired this Company is so that if it ever leaked out that the lotto max was rigged the government would just blame that Company.And the government would say we didn't know anything.oh don't worry someone does get to win the 60 million after the government rakes in about 3 to 4 hundred million in revenue. Anyone that ever says the government wouldn't do this doesn't know governments.
 

eh1eh

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Lotteries are not scams. There are no false promises of returns. You are told what the odds of winning are for each draw. If you make the choice to buy a ticket then you are not being scammed but just gambling. Might pay off big time but probably not. Simple bussiness transaction. If you think they are crooked in some way then you have the choice to just not buy a ticket. You are also free to shut up.

P.S. funnyguy. You computer has a space bar which had you used it would have made your rant at least readable.