Looks Like the Dreaded Spring Election is on!

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Daryll used to be sorta hot. Now she's just creepy.

Give me Uma Thurman any day of the week.





I will give Jack credit for one thing. His message has been pretty much unchanged.

Go back and check on the history of Ignatieff regarding corporate tax cuts.

Check on Ignatieff threatening to call an election if the Conservatives did not spend more to head off the recession.

All this posturing about deficits is hillarious, considering that the opposition supported the spending.

Face it! Ignatieff is going to be replaced.

It's going to cost the Canadian public a ton of dough, but its the only way Liberals can get rid of him and save face.
 

El Barto

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Daryll used to be sorta hot. Now she's just creepy.

Give me Uma Thurman any day of the week.





I will give Jack credit for one thing. His message has been pretty much unchanged.

Go back and check on the history of Ignatieff regarding corporate tax cuts.

Check on Ignatieff threatening to call an election if the Conservatives did not spend more to head off the recession.

All this posturing about deficits is hillarious, considering that the opposition supported the spending.

Face it! Ignatieff is going to be replaced.

It's going to cost the Canadian public a ton of dough, but its the only way Liberals can get rid of him and save face.
So if we get another minority Government again , will Harper stand down too?
that would be an excellant scenario....change all the leaders!
 

JLM

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I can't bring myself for voting Conservative ..... Will be voting for an alternative party.
Harper is an uncertainty in my books...... man what a lack of choice we have :(

You got that right, they should all be chucked and replaced with four random picks from the zoo.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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So if we get another minority Government again , will Harper stand down too?
that would be an excellant scenario....change all the leaders!

My guess is that if the conservatives secure a majority Harper will be leaving after serving a term.

If a minority happens it will definitely be his last hurrah.

Looking at the early numbers I'm still hedging my bets on majority. The opposition has lit the fuse for a potential backlash.
 

MHz

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I can't bring myself for voting Conservative ..... Will be voting for an alternative party.
Harper is an uncertainty in my books...... man what a lack of choice we have :(
If nobody voted would we automatically revert back to the Sovereign Provinces and Territories we once were? We have the 'skills and the technology' to eliminate the Fed and have the backbenchers in all Provincial Governments take over the posts that the Fed mirrors. We don't need the same coverage we had when pony express was equal to Fed-X, a transition that would not see one dept suffer in it's effectiveness and the citizens would probably be better informed on what is really going on the less people there are fo filter in/out bull.

Why isn't Harper automatically fired/quitted?? Didn't Joe Clark have to resign over the same sort of vote that just happened. I forget the exact issue but it couldn't have been more benign than this one.
No majority vote, disband the parties themselves and have the local districts decide who gets sent there where members can vote to let the voters use Revenue Canada (secure and already had the taxpayer data-base that is up to date) to supply input on which way the issue in question should go. That way one referendum would put a system in place that would make all future votes pretty much free from additional expenses other than the publishing end of getting the info out to the voters. Perhaps a new series on CBC that tracks(any/all) withdrawls from the public coffers
 
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CDNBear

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No, a bow will do...while i face the other way and drop my pants..hope you like the view
Neat view, I can see it writing one of your posts!

Chain gangs..good. Put em to work making something for the good of the country.
To bad the unions made chain gangs a thing of the past.

No dark conspiracies here, if you know where to look and what to look for it is all there in the open to be seen.
You keep talking about these facts, so when are you going to make some available?
Car of the year, whoohoo, first time in how many decades. I am glad to hear they are adding some shifts, now if they would bring back all the jobs they sent overseas in the last 15 years we might be getting somewhere.
Avro's in a bitter mood, Iguess not all the jobs have been restored.

What a typical, ignorant Conservative, ignoring half of the Ignatieff plan.

  • PLAN E Bring back Paul Martin as an advisor for quick, decisive decision-making
As evidenced by the fact that while he was Finance Minister he didn't notice all the money being funneled around for the Liberal elite, resulting in AdScam. Which makes him culpable, or an idiot.
  • PLAN F Petty cash about three hundred BROWN ENVELOPES
Don't have a strong platform, bribe the unwashed masses, good call, lol. How do you fit all those election promises to special interest groups, into those envelopes?

  • PLAN G Overdose on CHARISMATONIN in a desparate attempt to not be excrutiatingly boring
Or shower repeatedly, in beaver musk to appear more Canadian.

  • PLAN H Promote HEDY FRY to deputy leader, and watch the magic happen
Not going to happen. Every time a Canadian comic makes the big time, they move south of the border. I don't think Hedy would fit in, in LA.

Hmmm lousy cars creates lousy sales. Canadians spoke with their wallets. If they didn't get a bailout there would be a lot more unemployed than not.
It looks like Avro's still bitter. I guess his job wasn't saved.

Sorry, thought you were a sailor...
This is where you prove you have serious cognitive and comprehension issues. How do you get "sailor" from "soldier"?

Why bother, bones heal and chicks dig scars, if we don't patch em up they might stop fighting and if we happen to lose a few lifers you have more cells available and save a ton of dough.
So you support "cruel and unusual" punishment?

Our population is about 11% of the US, bailout money in Canada is about 11% of the US, foreclosure rate is about 11% of the US...do you see a trend here?
Not without proof I don't.

Our lending was not so closlely tied to the stock market as theirs which has allowed for a slightly better rate of recovery.
And our banking institutions have a much more stringent set of rules to follow.

Oh, so now you longer want to play.....don't start if you're gonna cry about it later.:smile:
Take some of your own advice CAWboy.

Really....do you find me funny....?
Not really, just sad and bitter. But I guess when you get laid off like you did, with no practical or marketable job skills, you have a right to be a bit bitter.

I can't bring myself for voting Conservative ..... Will be voting for an alternative party.
Harper is an uncertainty in my books...... man what a lack of choice we have :(
You can say that again!

I'm voting for the Pot Party.

Or Mickey Mouse.
 

JLM

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My guess is that if the conservatives secure a majority Harper will be leaving after serving a term.

If a minority happens it will definitely be his last hurrah.

Looking at the early numbers I'm still hedging my bets on majority. The opposition has lit the fuse for a potential backlash.

Yeah, Harper isn't going to do any worse- barring committing a felony.
 

MHz

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You got that right, they should all be chucked and replaced with four random picks from the zoo.
BY 4 members of a zoo. Might I suggest, monkey, jackass, elephant, ??????? as being the judges in who should be in the Gov.

To bad the unions made chain gangs a thing of the past.
At least as far as the sheeple know, the slave trade ended just in time to see the creation of something called a 'company town'. Reports from the American coal mines would not put them as being any better off than any slave in the deep south before any civil war.

Today personal debt would seem to be the upgrade to what the company town used to do. They are just larger versions of the former and no real progress is made, you have the elite and you have the down-trodden.
 

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BY 4 members of a zoo. Might I suggest, monkey, jackass, elephant, ??????? as being the judges in who should be in the Gov.
I don't think your family members should be picking who should run the country. The mess they made of your family precludes them from making reasoned choices.

At least as far as the sheeple know, the slave trade ended just in time to see the creation of something called a 'company town'. Reports from the American coal mines would not put them as being any better off than any slave in the deep south before any civil war

Today personal debt would seem to be the upgrade to what the company town used to do. They are just larger versions of the former and no real progress is made, you have the elite and you have the down-trodden..
And that has what, to do with chain gangs, and how unions have fought to keep them from being?
 
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MHz

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And that has what, to do with chain gangs, and how unions have fought to keep them from being?
I don't see unions as being more powerful than the corporations (which the Gov is). They are an illusion of power, same as a civilian authority is. Those rights can vanish with the invoking of 'military law' and the PM can do that easier than they could when Trudeau did it and there was no voting on the issue.

Say hospital workers went on strike, how long before the public would demand they get back to work rather than support an endless strike where the general public is the one being hurt the most. The elite would simply get treated at a military hospital or get treated in another Nation. Those option are simply not there for anybody the union represents, and if union leaders were sick they would seek treatment elsewhere with no qualms about crossing any picket lines.
 

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Is that called 'dance like an Egyptian'?
No. It's called "Your version of reality isn't worth offering anything other than."

It's either that or this...

Either, or, they're both applicable to the bulk of your posts.
 

JLM

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Well Harper has just laid out his plan of action for the future, which in my mind is far more preferable than a coalition comprised partly of the Bloc. :smile:
 

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Daryll used to be sorta hot. Now she's just creepy.

Give me Uma Thurman any day of the week.



She is a fine piece of woman and I would board her in my stable any time. Take to the crop and spur to which is an asset of any filly. Of course Daryl remains a gorgeous woman in her own way and I would never turn her away on a cold Saskatchewan night. They're bigguns awright but I ain't afeared none.


I will give Jack credit for one thing. His message has been pretty much unchanged.

We've met a couple of times and he is a charismatic chap with I think a good heart, though slightly misplaced
he really does mean well.

Go back and check on the history of Ignatieff regarding corporate tax cuts.

Check on Ignatieff threatening to call an election if the Conservatives did not spend more to head off the recession.

When it's down to a confidence vote as Harper has threatened in the past, the wise move is to hold the status quo until a better opportunity presents itself. Very Sun Tzu.

Iggy has never had a scandal, never been held in contempt of parliament and never lead the country into a war that isn't our business to wage. Harper on the other hand has done all of that and more.

All this posturing about deficits is hillarious, considering that the opposition supported the spending.

Right up until we have to pay for it. Taxes do that and it's going to come out of each of our pockets like it or not. But do remember what I said about threatening to use anything the opposition doesn't want to support as a confidence vote when the other parties are low on cash and weak in the polls. One thing you can say about the Liberals, is that when the Progressive Conservatives were kicked out of the House en mass, the Liberal majority took pity on them showing the sort of compassion the Neocons simply don't have.

For that matter remember who it was that screwed the government up so bad that when it came down to a vote, the Bloc were left as the official opposition in the House. Since that election the rightards have never held a majority government what the next 7 trips to the ballot boxes?

Sure some would say it's crazy to try the same thing over again and expect a different result, but you are still one of the least crazy chimps in this zoo, and for that, I admire you money boy! ;-) now no more flinging poo

Face it! Ignatieff is going to be replaced.

Of course they all are. If Harper doesn't return a majority, his turn at bat will end. If Iggy doesn't manage to bring the seats back to the middle, he will be replaced by the many contenders for the job. Layton I think is breaking down and looks for an exit after this campaign so that he an Olivia can enjoy some life together in peace and without all the demands of political life. I think they have earned it. He's always been a good politician fighting for the left and seeking what is right for the little guy. May Who?

It's going to cost the Canadian public a ton of dough, but its the only way Liberals can get rid of him and save face.

After the lake next to the Great Lake Ontario, you should hang you head for even mentioning wasting money. Just the law suits stemming from the G20 penis extension Harper wanted is have already blistered past the costs of an election. They haven't even had the public inquiry yet and that in and of itself will cost a ton, they way the neocons withhold information from the public.

It is indeed interesting times we live in mate. :smile:
 

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We've met a couple of times and he is a charismatic chap with I think a good heart, though slightly misplaced he really does mean well.
Does that include the days when he and good ole Olivia were living in subsidized housing, while collecting fat Gov't cheques?

Iggy has never had a scandal, never been held in contempt of parliament and never lead the country into a war that isn't our business to wage. Harper on the other hand has done all of that and more.
Iggy's never faced as much partisan politicing as Harpo has either.

Right up until we have to pay for it. Taxes do that and it's going to come out of each of our pockets like it or not. But do remember what I said about threatening to use anything the opposition doesn't want to support as a confidence vote when the other parties are low on cash and weak in the polls. One thing you can say about the Liberals, is that when the Progressive Conservatives were kicked out of the House en mass, the Liberal majority took pity on them showing the sort of compassion the Neocons simply don't have.
Back to the neo-conspiracies I see.

;-) now no more flinging poo
Isn't that what you're doing?

I think they have earned it. He's always been a good politician fighting for the left and seeking what is right for the little guy.



After the lake next to the Great Lake Ontario, you should hang you head for even mentioning wasting money. Just the law suits stemming from the G20 penis extension Harper wanted is have already blistered past the costs of an election. They haven't even had the public inquiry yet and that in and of itself will cost a ton, they way the neocons withhold information from the public.
More neo-conspiracy.

It is indeed interesting times we live in mate. :smile:
Not as disturbingly interesting as watching you post verbal hand jobs on Layton.
 

JLM

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Iggy has never had a scandal, never been held in contempt of parliament and never lead the country into a war that isn't our business to wage.


:smile:

I haven't done any of those things either, but do you think that qualifies me to be Prime Minister?
 

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Judging from 2004, it could prove interesting if the Liberals win a party plurality, with Harper trying to revive the 2004 Bloc-Conservative-NDP coalition.

Not that I'd be against such a coalition (after all, should that coalition form a majority of the House, then it has more legitimacdy than a minority party plurality), though it would most certainly be embarrasing for the Conservatives after all the anti-coalition postering lately.

At least the NDP is honest about having participated in the attempted Bloc-Conservative-NDP colation in 2004 and has remained consistent in its belief in the necessity of coalitions for minority governments to function, unlike that flip-flopping Harper.

Now, if we could just get a conservative (notice the lower-case 'c') in my riding who is also open to coalitions and not intent on ensuring Parliament not work until he gets his way. I don't care what party he belongs to, as long as he's a fiscal conservative, intelligent, open to new ideas, and most certainly open to respecting the will of Parliament and making it work and be willing to work with coalitions without being so hypocritical to then attack it when other parties do the same.

in fact, the 2004 proposal was even 'worse' as per Harper's view, seeing that he was proposing a full-out Bloc-Conservative-NDP coalition whereas the last one was a Liberal-NDP coalition with the Bloc merely supporting it. Honestly though, I'd say the 2004 proposal was better since a full-out majority coalition would be more stable than a minority coalition merely being propped up by a third party. But through Harper's eyes, his own proposal was worse than the proposed Liberal-NDP coalition.

While granted none of the party leaders are in my riding, as far as party leaders go, it would seem Layton is the one most open to working with Parliament rather than do all he can to make it fail.

Thumbs up to Layton on that front. Shame really, seeing that I actually prefer many of Harper's economic policies over Layton's. but then again, democracy must come before economics.
 

JLM

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Am I missing something important? Why would anyone want to have anything to do with a government that is partly comprised of a faction that is hell bent on breaking up the country?
 

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Am I missing something important? Why would anyone want to have anything to do with a government that is partly comprised of a faction that is hell bent on breaking up the country?

Well, the Conservatives were prepared on forming such a coalition themselves. Also, consider for a moment that the Conservative Party and the Bloc actually share certain policy points in common, some of which I would agree with myself. However, owing to the Conservative Party's refusal to work with the Bloc, it thus shoots itself in the foot since some of these shared policy points are shared uniquely between the Bloc and the Conservative Party but are wholly rejected by the Liberals, the Greens and the NDP. So even though I may agree with the Bloc and the Conservatives on these points, since they are not willing to work with each other to achieve these common goals, then what's the point of voting for them?