Look what a technical activist did to a NYC skyscraper as OWS crossed Brooklyn Bridge

[DaSleeper]

Yep.. It's one of those consistencies that we've come to know and love him for.

Yup....The forum equivalent of a motormouth;-)

 

[captain morgan]

We've gone over this. I'm NOT Bloomberg.

Then you'd be wise to not speak on his behalf

 

[petros]

He didn't deny them?

I'm guessing that the State requirements are subservient to the municipal laws in place. I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that you won't find a lot of camping spots in the city that are recognized by the muni gvt. within the city limits.

NY State sets the standards. Want a link or can you find it on your own?

Jolted, Wall St. Protesters Face Challenge for Future

Published: November 15, 2011

Mr. Wolfson hoped to work through the Bloomberg administration’s problems with what it saw as an increasingly lawless and unmanageable campground in the pulsing heart of the financial district. The protesters wanted to discuss only the need for toilets and tents. Mr. Wolfson told them their requests for permits had been denied, and the negotiations were over before they had begun.

Courtesy NY Times.

 

[captain morgan]

you can't deny someone a camping permit when they didn't ever apply in the first place.

 

[petros]

you can't deny someone a camping permit when they didn't ever apply in the first place.

7-3.6 Variance and waivers

• (a) In order to allow time to comply with a provision of this Subpart, an operator may submit a written request to the permit-issuing official for a variance. A request for a variance will not be considered unless the operator demonstrates that the health and safety of the public will not be prejudiced by the variance, and that there are practical difficulties or hardships in immediate compliance with the provision. An operator must meet all terms and conditions of an approved variance.
• (b) In order to obtain a waiver permitting alternative arrangements that do not meet the provisions of this Subpart but do protect the health and safety of the occupants and the public, an operator may submit a written request to the permit-issuing official for a waiver from a specific provision of this Subpart. Such request must demonstrate that the alternate arrangements provide adequate protection of the health and safety of the occupants and public. The permit-issuing official shall obtain and be guided by the recommendation of the State Department of Health prior to granting or denying a waiver. An operator must meet all terms of an approved waiver. A waiver will remain in effect indefinitely unless revoked by the permit-issuing official or the facility changes operators.

Read!

Jolted, Wall St. Protesters Face Challenge for Future

Published: November 15, 2011

Mr. Wolfson hoped to work through the Bloomberg administration’s problems with what it saw as an increasingly lawless and unmanageable campground in the pulsing heart of the financial district. The protesters wanted to discuss only the need for toilets and tents. Mr. Wolfson told them their requests for permits had been denied, and the negotiations were over before they had begun.

Courtesy NY Times.

 

[captain morgan]

The protesters wanted to discuss only the need for toilets and tents. Mr. Wolfson told them their requests for permits had been denied, and the negotiations were over before they had begun.

Here's a wee hint for you. Zucotti Park is NOT a camp ground, ergo, acquiring a camping permit is not possible.

This isn't that difficult to grasp Petros

 

[petros]

(b) Campground. Any parcel or tract of land including buildings or other structures, under the control of any person, where five or more campsites are available for temporary or seasonal overnight occupancy.

Already posted....you can read can't you?

 

[captain morgan]

State law... Find the muni bylaw that allows for it and you might have a chance.

 

[petros]

State sets the laws on "camping". Public Health Law Section 225

 

[captain morgan]

Muni sets their own bylaws and Zucotti Park is still not considered a camp ground.

 

[petros]

Not in this instance. Want the link or you can find it on your own?

 

[captain morgan]

Part 7, Subpart 7-3 Campgrounds

 

[petros]

f) Permit-issuing official. The State Health Commissioner, the health commissioner or health officer of a city of 50,000 population or over, the health commissioner or health officer of a county or part-county health district, or the State district director having jurisdiction, or any county or public health director having all the powers and duties prescribed in Section 352 of the Public Health Law.

The city only issues permits under the State health laws.

 

[captain morgan]

Here's an important little tidbit you might want to consider:

Notice

The information contained on this website is not the official version of the Compilation of the Rules and Regulations of the State of New York (NYCRR).

 

[petros]

New York City is in New York State Sherlock.

READ

f) Permit-issuing official. The State Health Commissioner, the health commissioner or health officer of a city of 50,000 population or over, the health commissioner or health officer of a county or part-county health district, or the State district director having jurisdiction, or any county or public health director having all the powers and duties prescribed in Section 352 of the Public Health Law.

 

[captain morgan]

Tell ya what Petros, you can piss and moan all you like about what ought to be. In the end, your novice foray into fed, state and muni laws is naive at best.

The reason that they were denied a camping permit is because NYC doesn't allow for it at all.

There is no 2-ways about it, nor does it matter what you want to believe, it is what it is and no amount of internet debate will change that.

 

[darkbeaver]

What a lovely opportunity to build a giant dung pile to bury bankers in. Later the city could build permanent public outhouses on the very spot.

 

[TenPenny]

I see Petros has started his usual silly dance.....

I see that CM has started his funny dance in reply - Petros plays the tune, and CM follows exactly what he's being led to do.

 

[captain morgan]

I see that CM has started his funny dance in reply - Petros plays the tune, and CM follows exactly what he's being led to do.

Still nothing to offer, eh?

I will say this.. You do excel as a troll... Kudos on that.

 

[TenPenny]

Still nothing to offer, eh?

I will say this.. You do excel as a troll... Kudos on that.

You're still dancing to the tune that others play, I see. I'm glad you're living up to your potential.