Liberals offically lift gag on scientists

CDNBear

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NDA's, empolyer intellectual property.

Means nothing to the trendy and vapid.

"Free speech" Bwaaahahaha!!!

"Muzzled" Bwaaahahaha!!!
 

davesmom

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Yes they can speak freely to the media but can they speak their own minds freely or can they only speak freely using what they are told to say?
We wouldn't want any scientist whose research has found smoking to be no threat to society to speak openly, would we? There are quite a few who could tell a different story than what we have been brainwashed with but they were silenced right from the beginning as was all media personnel.
Or what about the scientists who differ on climate change and global warming? Methinks what they say 'freely' had better conform with what the government is saying.
 

CDNBear

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Yes they can speak freely to the media but can they speak their own minds freely or can they only speak freely using what they are told to say?
We wouldn't want any scientist whose research has found smoking to be no threat to society to speak openly, would we? There are quite a few who could tell a different story than what we have been brainwashed with but they were silenced right from the beginning as was all media personnel.
Or what about the scientists who differ on climate change and global warming? Methinks what they say 'freely' had better conform with what the government is saying.
Govt scientists work for the govt. Any and all research is the property of the govt.

Like most private sector NDA's or intellectual property clauses.

Now they can speak up against ecofascism.
Bwaaahahaha, I doubt that will happen.
 

Twila

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Govt scientists work for the govt. Any and all research is the property of the govt.

Like most private sector NDA's or intellectual property clauses.

Bwaaahahaha, I doubt that will happen.



Intellectual property:
a work or invention that is the result of creativity, such as a manuscript or a design, to which one has rights and for which one may apply for a patent, copyright, trademark, etc.


Ip doesn't apply to gov't research, I don't believe. But if research the gov't funded DID fall under intellectual property, wouldn't the fact that the gov't a representation of the people of Canada mean that then all that information is ours?

And even if it did not mean this, the science learned about our world should be available to the people.

What could the scientists learn that would need to be protected from us?
 

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<chuckles at " mental loss".

Mental Loss :lol:



Global Warming Alarmists Caught Doctoring '97-Percent Consensus' Claims

Global warming alarmists and their allies in the liberal media have been caught doctoring the results of a widely cited paper asserting there is a 97-percent scientific consensus regarding human-caused global warming.
 

davesmom

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Govt scientists work for the govt. Any and all research is the property of the govt.

Like most private sector NDA's or intellectual property clauses.

Science is funded by government and 'he who pays the piper calls the tune'.
Not only scientists have been silenced but other professionals too have faced consequences for speaking their minds.
There was a certain journalist with a Toronto newspaper who wrote an article about the fallacy of the anti-smoking movement. She has not been heard of since.
There was a Chemistry Professor who questioned the false 'scientific' information and asked the city to remove the false information from the pamphlets they were posting because he didn't think it was right to deceive people. He was informed that he had better keep his nose in the classroom and out of politics if he wanted to keep his job.
These intimidated professionals talk to their families and friends so word gets out. One of my relatives is a doctor who admitted to family that since government pays their wages they are forced to follow government policy one of which is to preach the evils of smoking. This doctor admits privately that it is not smoking per se that is harmful it is the excess, as with any substance that is harmful. Ie, chocolates, fast foods, alcohol, etc. can safely be tolerated by the human body if ingested moderately.
 

Twila

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As is the case with other ‘surveys’ alleging an overwhelming scientific consensus on global warming, the question surveyed had absolutely nothing to do with the issues of contention between global warming alarmists and global warming skeptics. The question Cook and his alarmist colleagues surveyed was simply whether humans have caused some global warming. The question is meaningless regarding the global warming debate because most skeptics as well as most alarmists believe humans have caused some global warming. The issue of contention dividing alarmists and skeptics is whether humans are causing global warming of such negative severity as to constitute a crisis demanding concerted action.

“Cook et al. (2013) is based on a straw man argument because it does not correctly define the IPCC AGW theory, which is NOT that human emissions have contributed 50%+ of the global warming since 1900 but that almost 90-100% of the observed global warming was induced by human emission,” Scafetta responded. “What my papers say is that the IPCC [United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] view is erroneous because about 40-70% of the global warming observed from 1900 to 2000 was induced by the sun.”

Sounds like all scientists agree that climate change IS an issue, just not what's causing it. At the end of the day, since we can't control the things that humans haven't done, but we can control the things we are doing that we KNOW contribute, doesn't that mean we should control what we can control?

IF we can control 50% shouldn't we?

Again, though seems that they all agree there IS climate change though.
 

Twila

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There was a certain journalist with a Toronto newspaper who wrote an article about the fallacy of the anti-smoking movement. She has not been heard of since.
There was a Chemistry Professor who questioned the false 'scientific' information and asked the city to remove the false information from the pamphlets they were posting because he didn't think it was right to deceive people. He was informed that he had better keep his nose in the classroom and out of politics if he wanted to keep his job.
These intimidated professionals talk to their families and friends so word gets out. One of my relatives is a doctor who admitted to family that since government pays their wages they are forced to follow government policy one of which is to preach the evils of smoking. This doctor admits privately that it is not smoking per se that is harmful it is the excess, as with any substance that is harmful. Ie, chocolates, fast foods, alcohol, etc. can safely be tolerated by the human body if ingested moderately.

so why would the gov't, who made lots of money from the taxing of cigarettes, STOP someone who had research that showed that cigarette smoking wasn't harmful?
 

Twila

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Repeat this ten times:

the bank of Evil and Evil Corp LLC are behind everything BUT the AGW scam.

If you still believe it, you are an ecofascist.

what is the definition?

What's the bank of evil

What AGW scam?
 

davesmom

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so why would the gov't, who made lots of money from the taxing of cigarettes, STOP someone who had research that showed that cigarette smoking wasn't harmful?

Have you noticed the build up to legalizing pot which has now come to fruition? Need I say more?
There is always a political reason for social engineering. .
 

Twila

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Have you noticed the build up to legalizing pot which has now come to fruition? Need I say more?
There is always a political reason for social engineering. .

I can't see a connection. cigarette smokers would still smokes tobacco. In fact, smoking pot helps to lessen the inflammation in cigarette smokers. So pot is good for cigarette smokers. They wouldn't need to demonize either and the could promote both and of course make lots more money.
 

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Yes they can speak freely to the media but can they speak their own minds freely or can they only speak freely using what they are told to say?
We wouldn't want any scientist whose research has found smoking to be no threat to society to speak openly, would we? There are quite a few who could tell a different story than what we have been brainwashed with but they were silenced right from the beginning as was all media personnel.
Or what about the scientists who differ on climate change and global warming? Methinks what they say 'freely' had better conform with what the government is saying.
Do you really think that gov't politicians and bureaucrats are more aware of what can be hazardous than scientists who research the stuff? Or that gov't bureaucrats and politicians know more about climates and weather? Interesting.

Now they can speak up against ecofascism.
That, too.

But I am sure that politicians and bureaucrats can say more about what is scientific BS than sceptical scientists, right, davesmom?

Intellectual property:
a work or invention that is the result of creativity, such as a manuscript or a design, to which one has rights and for which one may apply for a patent, copyright, trademark, etc.


Ip doesn't apply to gov't research, I don't believe. But if research the gov't funded DID fall under intellectual property, wouldn't the fact that the gov't a representation of the people of Canada mean that then all that information is ours?

And even if it did not mean this, the science learned about our world should be available to the people.

What could the scientists learn that would need to be protected from us?
About the only thing I can think of is what gov't told us before about some science or other that is actually BS. Gov't cannot have people calling "BS" every time it says something about science, right? lol Oh, and stuff about genetics that may lead to a lot of scrapping over what is ethical and what is not.

It is much harder to lead sheeple by the nose if they actually are knowledgeable and informed.

what is ecofascism?
Gov't imposing carbon taxes and rigid rules about ecological stuff because of faulty or erroneous scientific information, I think.
 

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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post
what is ecofascism?

Gov't imposing carbon taxes and rigid rules about ecological stuff because of faulty or erroneous scientific information, I think
non-scientific fear mongering and muzzling the opposition. If Evil Corp LLC runs everything they are running the AGW scam. When you get the public to pay for replacing your inefficient antiquated industry and lauding you for it all while the puppet Govt. ups taxes to finance the infrastructure for the industries you've hit gold. Ecofascism.
 

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could you use this explanation/definition with information.
is there such a thing as infofascism?
the definition seems the same,just with information.
auditing for infofascism is my speciality.

what is the AGW?