Let's blame the Jews

petros

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The Shah was a brutal dictator put in place and supported by the US. When the people kicked his sorry ass out of the country, the pendulum swung the other way. People saw the Shah as a western puppet and and in a fit of zealous outrage rejected western culture and installed religious fanatics to replace the dictator. The swing was so radical that they ended up in almost the same predicament. The only reason the US has a hard on for Iran is they lost control of the oil.

When it comes to secular states being scary, the US tops my list.
We never had their oil, Europe did.
 

Ron in Regina

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Dr. Manhattan? What were we talking about again?




Wow, 25 posts shorter? I was reading what you didn't cut and thought it was pretty bad. :p

and

Meanie!

Hey what's with the snot green anyway.
Is that supposed to scare us?
Why don't you use a more manly color like lavender or fuschia.


Did what I could, in the time I had, and skimmed off the nastiest. The Bold Green Ink is just the
system that was already in place when I started, so as to be distinctive from the other posts
(including other Mods, or my own) when I'm force to stop play'n, & put on the green hat for
a while.
 

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To wearily engage with his logic briefly: yes, it is technically true that fewer Muslims (10) than Trinity College Cambridge members (32) have won Nobel prizes. But insert pretty much any other group of people instead of "Muslims", and the statement would be true. You are comparing a specialised academic institution to an arbitrarily chosen group of people. Go on. Try it. All the world's Chinese, all the world's Indians, all the world's lefthanded people, all the world's cyclists.


Secondly, if one is to try to address what Dawkins is really trying to say, which is that Muslims as a unit throughout history have done nothing since the Middle Ages, and that is clearly attributable to their stupid religion, then one must point out that a Nobel prize is not by any means a suitable or universal enough criterion. It has only been going for a little more than a hundred years, the prizes it awards are for excellence in academic research which is far superior in western scientific and academic institutions due to the socioeconomic development of the north, rather than due to any inherent cultural-religious deficiency in the south – which, should be pointed out, is made up not only of Muslims.




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Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
Anyone that has read the Nobel prize-winning piece of garbage titled The Tin Drum by the ex SS trooper Gunther Grass can have NO respect for the Nobel Prize in Literature......it has been a joke for decades, perhaps since since John Steinbeck won it back in the 50s.....I am exceptionally UNimpressed.

I would suggest that you read "Dog Years" Grass- 1963

Grass was honest enough to describe how he ended up in the SS, ( as a 1945 infantryman) & is very clear that his ethic heritage is Kasubian, but culturally that he is German.

If you find G Grass's work 'too complex'...... consider it the price of becoming educated.
 

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Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy
Anyone that has read the Nobel prize-winning piece of garbage titled The Tin Drum by the ex SS trooper Gunther Grass can have NO respect for the Nobel Prize in Literature......it has been a joke for decades, perhaps since since John Steinbeck won it back in the 50s.....I am exceptionally UNimpressed.

I would suggest that you read "Dog Years" Grass- 1963

Grass was honest enough to describe how he ended up in the SS, ( as a 1945 infantryman) & is very clear that his ethic heritage is Kasubian, but culturally that he is German.

If you find G Grass's work 'too complex'...... consider it the price of becoming educated.

Herr Grass's work is not "too complex"....

It is idiotic.

And I couldn't care less if he was an SS trooper or a Salvation Army trooper, or "Kasubian" or German, he is a literary train wreck....one of those "artists" that has somehow managed to con the gullible into believing they actually are producing something worthwhile.

Gunther Grass is the Jackson Pollock of the literary world.

Absolutely without merit.

Having subjected myself to The Tin Drum ALMOST to the end, I have no intention of shoving more literary bamboo splinters under the nails of my intellect by reading anything else he wrote....that's for sure.

Oh, and I have an education, Thank You
 

hunboldt

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Herr Grass's work is not "too complex"....

It is idiotic.

And I couldn't care less if he was an SS trooper or a Salvation Army trooper, or "Kasubian" or German, he is a literary train wreck....one of those "artists" that has somehow managed to con the gullible into believing they actually are producing something worthwhile.

Gunther Grass is the Jackson Pollock of the literary world.

Absolutely without merit.

Having subjected myself to The Tin Drum ALMOST to the end, I have no intention of shoving more literary bamboo splinters under the nails of my intellect by reading anything else he wrote....that's for sure.

Oh, and I have an education, Thank You


Actually, Colpy, I've always considered your intellect towering, but a little 'edge rough'. I never read The Tin Drum, but I have read Grass's other works.

That said, I would really recommend 'Dog Years'. which should have been his Nobel Prize work.

Grass's work 'delves deep' into Prussian Baltic myth and how it affects their lives and collective history. He's not an easy read. In Dog Years, he explains how he ended up in the SS infantry- along with his school mates.

And he is not anti Jewish. The hero of Dog yers, Ansell, is half Jewish.
 

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Actually, Colpy, I've always considered your intellect towering, but a little 'edge rough'. I never read The Tin Drum, but I have read Grass's other works.

That said, I would really recommend 'Dog Years'. which should have been his Nobel Prize work.

Grass's work 'delves deep' into Prussian Baltic myth and how it affects their lives and collective history. He's not an easy read. In Dog Years, he explains how he ended up in the SS infantry- along with his school mates.

And he is not anti Jewish. The hero of Dog yers, Ansell, is half Jewish.

Well, honey more than vinegar...lol

I might be forced to take you up on that...........
 

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Ansell, is half Jewish.
So are all Christians, the Bible is by Jewish authors, Paul calls (converted) Gentiles 'children', so does the beloved disciple. Now where are those interest free loans and which way to the cottage-cheese salad bar?

2Jo:1:13:
The children of thy elect sister greet thee.
Amen.

Really, when you blame God on them it, wait for it, ..... it doesn't seem like such a bad thing.