Laughing thugs poured acid over mother as she walked her kids home from school

skookumchuck

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Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. If you want I can give you more specifics of "Christians" bombing innocent non combatants.

Yep we would win all the armed conflicts, declared or not, by refusing to raise our weapons unless we saw a uniform. Sad little dodge.
 

Nick Danger

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I wonder about reacting from a place of vengeance in situations like this, but what's the first thing that comes to mind for people who leave their "homeland" for greener pastures but insist on bringing toxic baggage with them ? You bet, send 'em back.
 

B00Mer

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Any excuse to persecute Muslims will do, right?
I don't remember reading anything about religion in the article.

As I said, just making an observation.. all have Islamic last names.. could just be coincidence... or maybe not. Either way it won't help Islamic relations in Britain.

Are you that in love with the guy that you have to include Trudeau in every thread?

Infatuated .. :hello1:
 

EagleSmack

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Dresden, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. If you want I can give you more specifics of "Christians" bombing innocent non combatants.

Any Jews, Agnostics, Atheists, etc on those planes and/or giving the orders?
 

hunboldt

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I have a feeling that they will be well received in prison.
Pants Sir, no you will not be needing your top middle teeth either.
My name Sir, why they call me Ben, Ben Dover.
So come with me honey chile.


it'll cetand expand their current reasoning portal'.

BTW LG, not to belabour it, but a gorilla only gets an inch and a half erection.
http://www.*****sizedebate.com/page11_gorilla-chimpanzee.htm
 

Tecumsehsbones

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And the aforementioned attacks/wars were done in the name of Christianity or were they wars of state?
What difference does it make? People who loudly proclaimed their unquestioning belief in a deity whose last words on earth were "Love one another as I have loved you" deliberately burned tens of thousands, most of whom they knew were utterly innocent, to death.

By the way, I'm not in this debate. You asked a specific question, and I answered it. I really don't care who's more violent or more hypocritical this week, Christians, Muslims, Taoists, Hindus, Buddhists, Republicans, Trekkies, or Patriot fans. They're all nuts as far as I'm concerned. The fact that one or another may be a little crazier this week is not significant to me.
 

hunboldt

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What difference does it make? People who loudly proclaimed their unquestioning belief in a deity whose last words on earth were "Love one another as I have loved you" deliberately burned tens of thousands, most of whom they knew were utterly innocent, to death.

By the way, I'm not in this debate. You asked a specific question, and I answered it. I really don't care who's more violent or more hypocritical this week, Christians, Muslims, Taoists, Hindus, Buddhists, Republicans, Trekkies, or Patriot fans. They're all nuts as far as I'm concerned. The fact that one or another may be a little crazier this week is not significant to me.

What is terrifying about the Second World War was how quickly we went form the raid on Wilhemshaven in Sept 1939- where British pilots were forbidden to attack warships tied up at the docks, to the mass civilian fire bombings from the air.

the turning point I feel was the mass terror bombing of Rotterdam in May 1940.

In WWI millions of men died for acres of churned mud. I suppose that let the genie out of the bottle.
 

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What is terrifying about the Second World War was how quickly we went form the raid on Wilhemshaven in Sept 1939- where British pilots were forbidden to attack warships tied up at the docks, to the mass civilian fire bombings from the air.

the turning point I feel was the mass terror bombing of Rotterdam in May 1940.

In WWI millions of men died for acres of churned mud. I suppose that let the genie out of the bottle.

I think the German Blitz on London had a bit to do with it as well.
 

gerryh

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I think the German Blitz on London had a bit to do with it as well.


uh huh..... and while the allies screamed about the inhumanity of the nazi atrocities, like the London Blitz, they turn around and do the same thing, on an even bigger scale.
 

EagleSmack

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uh huh..... and while the allies screamed about the inhumanity of the nazi atrocities, like the London Blitz, they turn around and do the same thing, on an even bigger scale.

Uh huh... they sure did. When they had the means to respond they did so with full force. The allies knew who they were dealing with.

Its called war Gerry. I know you abhor it, with good reason, but that is what war is.

Sincerely,

Your favorite United S**t
 

Machjo

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so this woman is horribly disfigured, 44 years is not enough, they need to have to "do something" toward her plastic surgery...they need to have to work at something and send all of their pay to her weekly for the rest of her life...just jailing people isn't enough

Are you proposing prison labour?

O my! It's not like we have to work... Er, oh, wait...
 

skookumchuck

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Not a dodge, a fact. I see YOU dodged around it.

So you call me a dodger for stating the obvious? It would be convincing if you could show me where Christians have splattered people with acid, charged women with a crime for being raped, beaten and raped women for wanting to got to school, made a bomb and planted it in a runners marathon lately. All this time, silence from the Muslims, our religions were the same way but mostly have changed.
Nah, go ahead and switch to wars to cover your butt.
 

gerryh

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So you call me a dodger for stating the obvious? It would be convincing if you could show me where Christians have splattered people with acid, charged women with a crime for being raped, beaten and raped women for wanting to got to school, made a bomb and planted it in a runners marathon lately. All this time, silence from the Muslims, our religions were the same way but mostly have changed.
Nah, go ahead and switch to wars to cover your butt.


Killing/maiming/beating...... doesn't matter how it's done, it is all the same in the end.

Your favorite United S**t


actually, you would be ONE of my favorites. ;)
 

lone wolf

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So you call me a dodger for stating the obvious? It would be convincing if you could show me where Christians have splattered people with acid, charged women with a crime for being raped, beaten and raped women for wanting to got to school, made a bomb and planted it in a runners marathon lately. All this time, silence from the Muslims, our religions were the same way but mostly have changed.
Nah, go ahead and switch to wars to cover your butt.
Does the Spanish Inquisition fit? Failing that, read Hitler's love for Jewry. No religion is free from its own persecutions. I haven't seen any evidence that this hate crime was religion motivated.
 

Sal

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Hence my reasoning why their future freedom should be heavily restricted if not removed entirely. There is no society on this earth that should have to put up with the likes of these two wandering around in it.
it would mean life sentences for all without parole...I have no problem with that

Eye for an eye, on one hand it has an element of fairness to it but basically, for me, it often also means that we, as a society, are lowering ourselves collectively to their levels in order to fulfill it. It's not about whether it's fair for them, not about whether they deserves something or not, but it's about what it says about us, where we have to go in order for this 'fairness' to happen Bottom line it's the same reason I don't support the death penalty.
An eye for an eye means the victim is compensated equally. I have zero problem with that but like you would also draw the line at the death penalty. I have toyed with the idea of allowing it in extreme cases but have decided the cost is prohibitive due to the number of appeals allowed and the length of time it takes and the damage done to us as a society when a life is purposely taken.


We don't do enough, in my opinion, to rehabilitate the individuals who could be rehabilitated. And they are out there.
I agree. It is also extremely irritating knowing that the cost of incarceration could frequently be avoided with proper social nets for kids who suffer abuse, hunger, neglect etc. Would be so much cheaper to nip it in the bud but many can't see the larger picture, have zero understanding of human psychology, can't connect the dots, like to keep things minimalistic causing a huge problem down the road.
But in the case of these men, and others like them, given how unlikely it is that they could be rehabilitated, what is the point in trying? Really? Do we put the same kind of effort into their rehabilitation as we would into the rehabilitation of those who are likely to succeed? Particularly given that by doing so we spread it (money, time,etc resources) so thin as to not really do an adequate job with any of them.
Perhaps, I see your point but I think we still have to try.

Are you proposing prison labour?

O my! It's not like we have to work... Er, oh, wait...
No I don't like the term "hard labour" it conjures up images of other countries with abusive penal systems. I just want them to work at something and send a large portion of that money to the victim. It still has to be fair.
 

SLM

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it would mean life sentences for all without parole...I have no problem with that

Strange as it may seem, I have no problem with that either, lol. Life without parole for anyone who commits a particularly heinous and vicious crime against persons.

An eye for an eye means the victim is compensated equally. I have zero problem with that but like you would also draw the line at the death penalty. I have toyed with the idea of allowing it in extreme cases but have decided the cost is prohibitive due to the number of appeals allowed and the length of time it takes and the damage done to us as a society when a life is purposely taken.
And I look at the cost more as what it costs us personally. Because it does cost us personally, individually.


I agree. It is also extremely irritating knowing that the cost of incarceration could frequently be avoided with proper social nets for kids who suffer abuse, hunger, neglect etc. Would be so much cheaper to nip it in the bud but many can't see the larger picture, have zero understanding of human psychology, can't connect the dots, like to keep things minimalistic causing a huge problem down the road. Perhaps, I see your point but I think we still have to try.
On that, stemming the problem before it becomes a bigger problem, I agree completely. If we spent half as many dollars on crime prevention as we do on locking people away after they've committed a crime, we wouldn't have as many people committing crimes. I'm certain of it.