Lady Gaga Fights For Gays

[shadowshiv]

Re: Lady gaga's phone number!!!!!

This is lady gaga's agents phone numbers prob gunna change them soon now that the public has them.

Moderator's Edit: Phone number removed.

There are two reasons why posting phone numbers is discouraged at CC:

1. The numbers could lead to a location different than the one listed(and then that place would have the phone numbers of the people that called and could continually harrass them with soliciting or some other nefarious plans).

2. Giving out another person's phone number, especially without their permission, while perhaps not illegal is certainly not cool. Would you like someone to post your telephone number on the internet?

I'm going to respond to this edited post so that people that have already read the previous page will not miss this.

 

[L Gilbert]

I've given up posting links.. but feel free to google 'negative effects of homosexuality'.. you will find info that lists them in the length of small books.

Of course the homosexual lobby/industry has been busy posting their own counter claims.. but any incisive look at them will reveal them couched in the rationales and lexicon of post structural society.

Take your choice.. but take a caveat as well.. nothing good, at the level of the individual or society, has or ever will come from homosexuality or its legitimization. The characterization of it as being 'normal' or 'genetically predisposed' is in fact only 40 years old, and its effects have yet to be fully realized.

I question why i get such bitter responses to this view. Essentially, in the West, the enshrinement of homosexuality as an idol worthy of worship, is in almost complete control of the agenda. You'd think its practitioners and supporters would celebrating this Brave New World, but instead they wallow in self pity and misery. I guess it just comes with the territory.

If you do not provide substantiating evidence for your position, then what you post is simply baseless opinion. And even 4 year-olds can spew opinion without anything to support them. And one can google anything and find what they want, in book form or not. IOW, you aren't convincing.

You mean the "homosexual lobby/industry" has an opinion? You don't want it to have an opinion?

40 years? Does that mean that before that, the science investigating the human mind and body was ignorant of the idea? I would think so. But then, did you know that before science discovered the world was roundish, we were ignorant of the fact and even thought that the world was flat?
Did you know that just last year we had no idea that we could turn off the food allergen gene in mice and now we can?
It's called progress, you know.

I don't see it as enshrinement. I see it as simply the measured response to the bigotry aimed at homosexuals.

Perhaps you should take off your rose coloured glasses. The church conducted the Inquisition and witch burnings which brought on the end of learning through torture and repression. They stifled scientific inquiry and burned or hid all knowledge that did not sanctify their totalitarian reign of terror. The new age of enlightenment is something the church fears because their loss of power will be total. Their reign of terror is almost over, ignorance is being replaced by knowledge, bigotry by tolerance. You are becoming a dinosaur and the church will too if it does not reinvent itself. I cannot see that happening under the present pope who seems to be headed in the opposite direction.

The RCC hasn't quit yet. There is still the issue of secrecy about pedophilia that has deep-seated roots in the RCC. And the RCC has had this "code of secrecy" in it since the early 300s. That's 700 years of secrecy.

It doesn't work that way.. and Dark Ages last centuries, perhaps half a millenium of collapse of technology, population and rampant disease, famine, pestilence.. and a restoration of tribalism with its pagan blood cults and incessant violence and warfare. And as with the collapse of the Greco Roman Civilization, the spark of learning and order of a civilized society was kept alive Catholic monastaries in farflung places.

Homosexuality in legitimate and celebrated fashions is a symbol and accelerant of a process of degeneration. But it is certainly not the only factor. It reflects a loss of moral structure on which our entire socio-economic framework is constructed.

We see the results in the asecendent jungle of the predatory economics that is leading us into a Great Depression unlike any we have seen before, at least in the last 1000 years. And the loss of any sense of value in human life, as we see in the 50 million abortions in North America over the last 40 years, and the 'sacrifice' of human embryos to medical research, and the growing euthenasia cults.

It's all well advanced. There is a gathering storm that will hit us with avengance, within our life times and beyond.

Yeah well, that's your opinion. So what? You probably blame Toyotas manufacturing troubles on homosexuality, too.

I've already mentioned them, but maybe you don't think rampant disease, anonymous promiscuity, drug and alcohol dependence, depression, suicide, loneliness, dramatic decrease in life expectancy are sufficiently persuasive enough. Those are just some of the material effects.. i won't even touch on the spiritual costs.

And those "material effects" are exclusive to homosexuality, in your view? lol

The illusion of the happy homosexual couple, living a life of domestic bliss and monogamy is a myth. The reality is a life of carnal consumption, a nightmarish existence of fantasy ridden and unquenchable appetites, and increasing isolation for the aging homosexual.

More mere unsubstantiated opinion. So?

They aren't the effects of homosexuality but you have to admit, the risk of these things goes up dramatically in the gay community. I don't have anything against gays either but that's just the facts.

Again, this is not fact; but unsubstantiated opinion.

 

[TenPenny]

The illusion of the happy homosexual couple, living a life of domestic bliss and monogamy is a myth. The reality is a life of carnal consumption, a nightmarish existence of fantasy ridden and unquenchable appetites, and increasing isolation for the aging homosexual.

I think someone's bizarre personal fantasies are showing!

 

[damngrumpy]

Ask don't tell is the first admission that the government does not want to
confront the problem or perception of a problem in the first place. During
World Wars I and II I wonder how many service people were gay? The
figures didn't matter because our nations were in the fight of their lives in
an attempt to save our way of life and free those who were enslaved by
an evil system. Now it appears we are hell bent and determined to do
unto others, in our own land what we asked our young men and women
to fight against.
This eternal crap about America and Canada and so on supposed to be
a Christian Nation with all the institutions to go with it. The truth is some
of those who signed the famous documents of liberty didn't have God in
mind at all, except to have to foresight to ensure Church and State were kept
separate, because they anticipated the nut jobs that would follow and try to
do exactly what the likes of Palin and company want to do.
The fathers of North American society, were more about personal freedom,
even for people they didn't agree with. That includes, Gays, Christians,
non believers and so on. Democracy must be inclusive for all, for if it is not
there is no freedom, and you cannot have democracy without freedom.
The other thing, you know the majority rules? Most people leave out the other
half of the equation. In a democracy, the majority rules, however it is expected
that the will of the minority, is at least respected. That may not be the exact
wording but it was clearly the intent of those who conceived government
process, otherwise there would be no opposition benches in the parliaments.
In addition, when you are on a battlefield, you don't ask someone if they are gay,
or Christian, or Muslim, or Atheist, you ask if they can cover you to get to the
next objective. We are supposed to live in an open society, freed to worship
or not, free to love who ever they hell we want, and free to determine our own
course in life. We are asking the Muslim world to make hard decisions and
support attitudes they don't like and then we practice the same prejudice here
at home, its called hypocrisy, either you believe in democracy or you don't.
Don't hide behind history, or God or some other code of life and pretend you
are just following Christs orders or Gods orders, you live in a free and open
society. Do you believe in a free society or not? That is the question each of
us must ask ourselves. As hard as it sometimes is, I believe in a free society.

 

[coldstream]

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40 years? Does that mean that before that, the science investigating the human mind and body was ignorant of the idea? I would think so. But then, did you know that before science discovered the world was roundish, we were ignorant of the fact and even thought that the world was flat?
Did you know that just last year we had no idea that we could turn off the food allergen gene in mice and now we can?
It's called progress, you know.

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The characterization of homosexuality as 'natural' condition, in contravention of all evidence and common sense, is in fact a sociological phenomenon. In Western civilization you can find no precedent of a 'scientific thesis' for this prior to on set of post structural modernism in the early 1970s. It became the entrenched first in universities and by methodical process into public schools, professional organizations (specifically those of psychiatry and psychology) and finally political spheres.

It has nothing to do with science or progress. It is political agenda, providing a fabricated rationale. It is deeply antithetical to real science, which is founded on natural law and empirical evidence.. not superstition and political correctness.

 

[GreenFish66]

Lady Gaga is the perfect Lady to fight for Gay rights...I'll take her on !.....Don't ask about sexual preferences ..Don't tell ...

Alpha Dog leads the pack ...Rest like to chase their tail between their legs ...

How flexible are you ?

Huh?

 

[TenPenny]

It has nothing to do with science or progress. It is political agenda, providing a fabricated rationale. It is deeply antithetical to real science, which is founded on natural law and empirical evidence.. not superstition and political correctness.

So, where is your scientific proof of the 'physical harm' from being homosexual?

Still can't come up with it, can you?

 

[GreenFish66]

Survival of the fittest?...Breeding...?...Gayness is only accepted in Human society ..and it is affecting the Gentlemen of the world...Afraid to be too caring and sensitive for fear of being labeled as "Gay" ...In steps the Alpha dog ...Every man for themselves...Women Rule...All is lost ...As they fight for their rights..

 

[Tonington]

The characterization of homosexuality as 'natural' condition, in contravention of all evidence and common sense, is in fact a sociological phenomenon. In Western civilization you can find no precedent of a 'scientific thesis' for this prior to on set of post structural modernism in the early 1970s.

What nonsense. In-vitro fertilization was developed in this era- do you dispute that as well? IS it any finding that is inconvenient that you'll try to wash away with this non-sequitur?

It has nothing to do with science or progress.

Well, homosexual behaviour exists all over the animal kingdom. Your belief is not based on science, and is in fact the opposite of moving towards progress. It is retardation.

 

[GreenFish66]

x or y ?...z is genetic confusion ..Those who have both should not be held responsible ...The choice is theirs. 1 or the other?..Not ours to make...So Don't have to ask ..You can just tell

In the wild, the ones who chase the wrong tail, don't last very long ...

 

[gerryh]

x or y ?...z is genetic confusion ..Those who have both should not be held responsible ...The choice is theirs. 1 or the other?..Not ours to make...So Don't have to ask ..You can just tell

In the wild, the ones who chase the wrong tail, don't last very long ...

There is no choice in the matter, anymore than you have choice to be male or female, the same for hetro or GLBT. As much as you and the likes of coldwater would like to think, those are the facts.

 

[GreenFish66]

I am a Hetero Sexual Male ...Must be genetic...

 

[critter171]

no, she is trying to use her influence to make people do something..

so no clebriates can fight for a cause they believe in? i see... i see nothing wrong what she is doing. surley i don't care much for her music or her. but i respect her opioion and care in this case.

 

[Tonington]

I am a Hetero Sexual Male ...Must be genetic...

It's not all genetic, studies of monozygotic twins do not show 100% concordance for sexual inclination. That means the environment is playing a role as well. If it helps you to think about it this way, genetics loads the gun, and the environment is the trigger.

 

[Liberalman]

After a bad romance Lady Gaga wants to rub the disco stick.

 

[TenPenny]

After a bad romance Lady Gaga wants to rub the disco stick.

Haha, I see what you did there.

 

[petros]

I usually ignore people who wrap themselves in sandwich bags and make speeches.

 

[Bar Sinister]

I am a Hetero Sexual Male ...Must be genetic...

That may well be. But you started out female - all mammals do.