Kathleen Wynne urged to toughen penalties for political staff who destroy records
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Yup and I live under a bridge as well .
I will sell you a share . That is if you can afford it after paying your hydro bill .
So who was in charge the last 11 years as the rates soared? Certainly not McGuinty or Wynne.
You too, Walter the spineless twit. Lotsa red and no balls
Who killed Ontario Hydro and deregulated the industry allowing crooks to do as they please? - and yes, that includes the next guys who hope to fix Harris f-ups with their own ...
AB went through our deregulation some years ago and like yourself, the prices jumped.
That said, when you crunched the numbers, the price increase was a reflection of the real costs of the stuff, more so than a money grab by the private sector.
All the time prior to dereg, the AB gvt was operating those services at a loss in order to offer cheap energy, but although the monthly bill was lower, the gvt made up the difference in taxes.
.... And no, when the gvt sold-off the facilities, they did not lower the taxes
It seems to me the energy cost increase is more caused by McSquinty's closing of all those coal power plants without replacing the power. Less supply, same demand = higher prices.
Privitization may or may not have been a good thing but Wynne and McSquinty have been around since 2003. Plenty of time to correct the situation if they so desired. I contend McSquinty made it worse.
Also imagine the provincial deficit if the Ontario governent was still absorbing Ontario Hydro's deficit.
Should have gone for the coal fired plants instead of the expensive alternative energy ones.
They had the coal-fired ones - and bowed to the people who saw smoke so they went to gas - and set them up in a place where urban growth was overtaking the site - and cancelled the project halfway through. Nobody said you needed brains to be a government - but anyone knows a system has to be maintained (except, maybe, Ontario governments of EVERY stripe)
They were replacing the power. Did you hear about a gas plant scandal? McGuinty tried correcting the situation by setting up a competing system. That went over well
Hydro's deficit would never have been so high had somebody not "fixed" HEPCofO's original mandate to provide power AT COST
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They tried to but then they cancelled it because they were in Lieberal ridings and they didn't like them. They also tried to replace them with windmills and such but I don't think they have actually replaced the power. I think they are importing more power (all coal powered ironically) from the US which is more expensive.
So who was in charge during the orgy of nuclear power plants with attendant cost over-runs? So who was in charge when Hydro Electric Power Commission of Ontario's mandate was changed from power at cost for the people of Ontario to subsidized? So who was in charge when maintenance of the plant and system was deferred due to cost constraint? So who was in charge when Hydro started selling in upstate New York at LESS than cost? So who was in charge when Hydro was offed (along with its debt) to the for profit sector? Point fingers at one particular party if you want ... then check out some reality. It's the stupidity of ALL Ontario governments in their efforts to chase profit
I think you'll find Ontario hydro is sold to the United States at LESS than cost
Anyone know where I can get a high-efficient extension cord 60 miles long so I can plug into Hydro Quebec?
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That is just stupid. Certainly this could have been corrected since 2003?
I would try Canadian Tire.
Could have been ... but then the sales would go to Hydro Quebec and Ontario would be producing over demand. You can shut down a turbine ... but not a reactor. Someone just isn't wearing their thinking cap
;-) You shoulda seen the look on the counter guy when I asked. I half expected people with butterfly nets to follow me past the door....
It looks good to the conned ... but it's still there. The debt is still being paid by the same people, only it's downloaded into a "debt retirement fee" in your hydro bill.
Windmills. Gas Plant cancellations. Dormant windmills that net 50 G a year per annum no matter what. It ain't all Harris LS?
Did I say it WAS all Harris? Deregulation opened the door to a lot of bullshyte....