Justin Trudeau abandons Alberta

#juan

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Did he kick out ONLY the Albertan senators?

No. He threw all the senators out of the Liberal caucus. They no longer represent the Liberal party. The senators can support who or what they want but they will do it independently....not as part of the Liberal party.
 

#juan

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smoke and mirrors...:rolleyes:

Hey. It was more than Harper did. Harper promised not to appoint any new senators. Colpy wants to say that Harper was forced by the liberals to appoint all those senators but that is nonsense since Trudeau threw all the Liberal senators out of the caucus. Harper says he wants a non-partisan senate. Why doesn't he do what Trudeau did? or has he another agenda?
 

WLDB

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but why would any Albertan vote for a Lib is beyond me!!

Yet they still do. Not enough to elect a member in awhile but some do vote liberal both provincially and federally.


As for the Senate thing, does anyone really feel represented by the Senators from their province? More so than by their MP? Personally I do not which is part of why I don't care for the institution.

Actually, as I keep telling people, Harper did not appoint Senators until the Liberals began using their majority in the Senate to thwart the will of the elected House. Then Harper had no choice....it was let the Liberal Senate run the country against the will of the House, or appoint Conservative Senators. He did what was necessary.

The Senate is something we'd like to change...........really change, not "pretend" change.

And then those Senators he appointed refused to go along with any of the Reforms he wanted. Funny how people who are given a secure job til 75 just dont want to give it up regardless of which party they are a part of.
 

taxslave

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No, but that's besides the point. It's like idiots like Durry complaining or putting down Trudeau for what he just did on the one hand, and the other implying that any Albertan with a brain would never vote for a Liberal. If that was the case, then what the fu ck is the problem with Alberta having no Liberal Senators?

SOmeone has to represent brainless Albertans.
 

DaSleeper

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Hey. It was more than Harper did. Harper promised not to appoint any new senators. Colpy wants to say that Harper was forced by the liberals to appoint all those senators but that is nonsense since Trudeau threw all the Liberal senators out of the caucus. Harper says he wants a non-partisan senate. Why doesn't he do what Trudeau did? or has he another agenda?
Symbolism will placate a Liberal......while it takes real money to placate a Conservative......
 

Colpy

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Absolutely Pythonesque.

Whereas Thursday we had the People's Front of Judea, today we have the Judean People's Front.

(see "The Life of Brian")
 

damngrumpy

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I have a friend who always says if a group of people all agree one hundred percent
in one thing and vote that way they are all wrong.
Yes we should see people from all parties represented in the House preferably some
from each province that way we could have some real consensus.
I think both the Liberals the NDP and the Greens should abandoned Alberta it is a waste
of time. The minority in Alberta might just as well stay home. Not something to be proud
of but for the most part true. I wouldn't vote for Harper if my life depended on it.
 

Durry

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If the other parties had a decent leader that had some good business skills, then they might be worth considering voting for.

In managing a country like Canada you need good business skills, legal skills and a good sense of what is practical in implementing polices for the well being of Canada.

Right now, Harper is head a shoulders above the others.

Mulcair is a socialist and socialism hasn't worked anywhere.
Trudeau is a dumbo and a loser. No education and he couldn't be counted on to run a household let alone a country.
 

#juan

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Mulcair is a socialist and socialism hasn't worked anywhere.
Trudeau is a dumbo and a loser. No education and he couldn't be counted on to run a household let alone a country.

Hardly a loser. Trudeau picked a tough seat that had been BQ for years and won. He ran for the party's leadership and won. If a federal election were held today Trudeau would win. Face it, Harper is on the way out.
 

GreenFish66

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So who's to blame for any faults of the Senate now?

What are they discussing/Voting on in the Senate? Final approval on the XL pipeline?

Political positioning?

Too many leading Questions?
 

Durry

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Hardly a loser.
. He ran for the party's leadership and won. .
Yep, a bunch of losers selected to be run by another loser. Nothing new here!!

Isn't this what happened to the previous two leaders?? Hahaha!!
 

damngrumpy

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Harper appointed Senators because the Liberal Majority were thwarting his plan.
Nice condemns him right there. If he had an election and elected fifty nine of
them great he didn't he appointed them. Under the system we have he is
supposed to work with them to get a resolution and resolutions require compromise
Harper does not understand compromise Harper is also a man of questionable
judgement the ones he did appoint some turned out to be pretty bad apples and we
know who they are Now only Conservative Senators remain therefore they will be
the political bait as the Liberals like the NDP have no Senators. Oh I know until last
week that wasn't true but it is now
 

Durry

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The Senators will not be the issue in the next election. Every fool knows that when it comes to the Senators there is enough blame to go around and even blame to those who formed this system. So Senators is a non issue!!

The issue in the next election is going to be what it's alway been, it's Jobs and the Economy!!
Screw the rest, if this is working well the rest can always be worked out!!
 

gerryh

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The Senators will not be the issue in the next election. Every fool knows that when it comes to the Senators there is enough blame to go around and even blame to those who formed this system. So Senators is a non issue!!

The issue in the next election is going to be what it's alway been, it's Jobs and the Economy!!
Screw the rest, if this is working well the rest can always be worked out!!


Cool, so harper is double screwed. Love it.
 

Colpy

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If the other parties had a decent leader that had some good business skills, then they might be worth considering voting for.

In managing a country like Canada you need good business skills, legal skills and a good sense of what is practical in implementing polices for the well being of Canada.

Right now, Harper is head a shoulders above the others.

Mulcair is a socialist and socialism hasn't worked anywhere.
Trudeau is a dumbo and a loser. No education and he couldn't be counted on to run a household let alone a country.

I am pissed at the Conservatives, and not for the first time.

please, some one, offer us an alternative!!!