You've got it completely, unequivocally wrong. As I already told you, it was made clear to me very early on by the members of the forum here how to discuss "big" topics. I tried the approach you're looking for and it didn't get me very far. Therefore, it's not simply "Jesus loves you", instead full offense is needed like "Jesus loves you, he's the way, the only way, and here's why things like Islam and atheism which CONTRADICT Christianity are incorrect". As I said, I have NO CHOICE but to swing the bat as hard as I can because you all do - it's the name of the game and I hope you understand what I'm mean here.
Further, I'm criticizing beliefs, ideologies, philosophies, and religions, not individual people. I happen to know for a fact that I've never told someone "you're going to hell", because I don't know who's going to hell, because I don't know what the future holds for them. And for the times when I've criticized groups of people, like calling far leftists fascist, I'm still providing evidence and therefore reasons for my criticism.
Further, the discussion is constantly being directed to the Christian's beliefs by opposing members. This particular thread was suppose to be about the people on the flotilla and their intentions, but because I state an opinion, automatically it's the Christian perspective that comes under scrutiny, not the actual argument and evidence they're presenting!!!
Further, defending Christianity, or criticizing opposing views is only one part of the day. I've started several apolitical, secular threads all in the name of fun for me and others, and commented on hundreds of other topics that don't include religion or the sort, so don't try to make it look like criticizing others or their beliefs is all I do as a member here! Remember my ghost story LW? Remember?! :lol:
How?
I will completely take at face value that you have come across Christians who were both hypocritical and judgmental. But as you already know, how people act, what they say, or how they feel has NOTHING to do with what's true and what's not. Should I consider atheism or Buddhism false because one of their followers mistreats me? Of course not, it wouldn't be objective to do so.
Agreed. You don't need church to have Christ. And I don't want to pass judgment, I'd much rather hear EXACTLY what you believe about Christ because I've haven't seen you lay it out there yet.
But that's only one side of your goal posts(bad side)! This is more accurate for yourself:
Deluded Christian, Muslims etc.(bad).......................atheists/agnostics(good)
Which is fine, I'd just argue that the goalposts are different.
I wouldn't go as far as to say that life is void of gray, but a lot of folks easily forget that there is black and white as well. The first key is to realize that truth is absolute, something is either true or it is not. This is proven by the absolute laws of logic, and the either-or concept as opposed to the both-and concept, which you can read about in the OP of this thread.
When you realize that truth is absolute, and subsequently so is morality, you will better understand why the world is: either-or, true-false, right-wrong, good-evil, lightness-darkness, heaven-hell, black-white.
And don't kid yourself because no matter what you try, the either-or logic will emerge. If you say "No! life is not black-white, true-false, right-wrong" then you are in fact making an ABSOLUTE claim. That you are true and I am false. That EITHER party A is correct OR party B is correct. We can't both be right at the same time, it's either you or me!
My advice would be to stay away from mind poison like witchcraft in the first place.
And what they did was wrong. Fortunately, like I was telling LW, how people act has nothing to do with what is true and what isn't, if it did truth would be unknowable.
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