Jason Kenney should hold referendum Alberta sovereignty

Durry

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It was the immigrants from useless countries that prevented Quebec from separating, so if AB is going to do it, it better do it soon eh!
 

B00Mer

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Only idiot Trumpites would think this is even a remotely good idea

STFU ya stupid troll..

If you have nothing worth saying, or not willing to read the link and comment on that.. then stay the fukk off my threads..

Cannuck, you're nothing but a fool and a troll.

Peter Zeihan says Alberta would be better off as 51st U.S. state

 

B00Mer

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If AB separated, I’m not sure the US has anything to bring to ABs table?

If Alberta became the 51st state, the US would gain another wealthy state nearly as big as Texas, the US would replace Canada as the second largest country on Earth, and the US would gain the third largest oil reserves of any country after Venezuela and Saudi Arabia. Adding Alberta’s oil production of 3.5 million barrels per day to the US oil production of 10 million barrels per day would make the US by far the largest oil producer in the world, well ahead of Saudi Arabia and Russia. It would be like having another Texas but with far fewer people and much more oil and gas. It would pretty much solve the US energy supply problems for the foreseeable future since the US could be counted on to exploit those resources and move them to market regardless of anybody trying to stop it.

From Canada’s perspective it wouldn’t be very good since Canada would lose 90% of its oil reserves It would lose much of its oil refining and petrochemical industries and become a heavy net importer of crude oil, gasoline, and diesel fuel from the US. It would also lose 35% of its farmland, and 60% of its beef cattle, and BC would be cut off from the rest of of Canada. The federal government would lose much of its tax revenue and would be unable to fund its generous revenue equalization payments to Quebec and the Atlantic Provinces any more. Universal medical care would be much harder to fund. The Canadian dollar would drop drastically as a result of the loss of oil export revenue.

Albertans would notice that their taxes went down and that the GST disappeared completely, along with carbon taxes. Their new US dollars would buy a lot more than their old Canadian dollars did. Gasoline prices would go down to US levels. They would all rush out and buy even bigger 4x4 trucks than they already drive.

I don’t think most Canadians realize just how important Alberta is to the Canadian economy. They just know that Albertans are richer than other Canadians for some inexplicable reason and feel resentful about it.
 

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The WTO or UN (or some such international body) has laws in place the prevent nations without ocean access from being unable to trade.


All the same, an agreement in place with the US in advance can mitigate this circumstance, let alone the reality that Canukistan would be getting their financial azzes handed to them without the resource revenues.


My bet is that they'd be pretty motivated to make a deal sooner rather than later
 

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We would still be land locked and unable to sell our oil eastward or through BC.
As a US state the oil would flow south to the US markets and to US ports.
If the globull warming truthers are to be believed it could have been pumped through NWT and loadd on tankers in the ice free Arctic for the past 6 years.
 

Durry

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If someone like Jason lead a referendum for AB to separate, AB would probably vote to separate.

I would vote for separating
 

Ron in Regina

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We would still be land locked and unable to sell our oil eastward or through BC.

As a US state the oil would flow south to the US markets and to US ports.
....and BC would be annexed by some Asian Nation within our lifetimes. It's already happening but this would speed it along. Before long it would have a 15 million person population and English would be a curiosity when heard, and its resources would be harvested wholesale on an crazy industrial scale and not to BC's benefit. Oh well...
 

Kreskin

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Albrexit? Why? It already borders the US. Cut a pipeline deal with them.
 

Cannuck

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STFU ya stupid troll..
If you have nothing worth saying, or not willing to read the link and comment on that.. then stay the fukk off my threads..
Cannuck, you're nothing but a fool and a troll.


Anger is unhealthy. You need to calm down
 

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If Alberta wants to really leave Canada, then TBH no one should stop them.

Same for Quebec.


But like so many say with Quebec, the buck stops the instant they leave. And they pay back any share of debt they owe Canada and so on and so on.

For me personally... I think if Alberta left, either a good chunk of population would leave as well (if the vote even passed) OR the province would quickly want to GTFO of the US not long after joining.
 

B00Mer

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....and BC would be annexed by some Asian Nation within our lifetimes. It's already happening but this would speed it along. Before long it would have a 15 million person population and English would be a curiosity when heard, and its resources would be harvested wholesale on an crazy industrial scale and not to BC's benefit. Oh well...
Actually I don't think so.. if Alberta joined the USA, there would be a domino effect and the rest of Canada would follow pretty quickly.

The USA would not allow some Asian country to take BC.

Canada on its own is not economically viable. Its economic activity is a long strip just north of the border stretching for thousands of mile. No depth to markets and excessive connectivity costs.

Moreover, Canada needs to learn to compete. Its creative juices are .. Well what creative juices?

USA is a powerhouse of innovation, resourcefulness and the currency has reserve status allowing it to weather huge storms. Not so long ago US had been written off - and look where the loonie is today.

Just like Zambia, or similar places Canada is resource rich and that is the curse. It ignores the most resourceful capital it has Human Capital. Not only are its markets uncompetitive, its people are undervalued, and end up doing jobs that do not lever their training or interests.

In Arts or Culture nothing/ no one has succeeded in Canada until they have succeeded in US, Celine Dion or Shania or Paul Anka.

It would be best for Canada to join and be one or more states of USA.

If for nothing else, a Canada US merger would make the likes of Cannuck go bat shit crazy.. Oh to late he already is.. :lol:


Should the U.S. and Canada Merge?
 
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