Jamaica gov't again mulls marijuana legalization

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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...3/jamaica_marijuana_080203/20080303?hub=World

KINGSTON, Jamaica -- Jamaica is again considering the legalization of marijuana.
A seven-member government commission has been researching possible changes to the Caribbean country's anti-drug laws.

Deputy Prime Minister Kenneth Baugh says the commission is now preparing to report to the prime minister on the legalization issue.

In 2003, a government commission recommended legalizing marijuana in small amounts for personal use.

But legislators never acted, saying it might entail the loss of their country's U.S. anti-drug certification. Countries that lose it face economic sanctions.

Marijuana is revered by members of the island's large Rastafarian population who say smoking it is part of their religion. Many in the police force also complain that the courts and jails have become clogged with marijuana-related cases.

A U.S. State Department report Friday said that Jamaica is the largest producer of marijuana in the Caribbean and a major hub for drugs bound for the United States.

Whoa wait a minute right there..... last year the US claimed Canada was the largest hub for drugs bound to the US (Shortly afterwards Canadian officials who specialize in that department debunked their unfounded claims) ~ So how can one put faith in the above claim?

Members of the Rastafarian movement, which emerged in Jamaica in the 1930s out of anger over the oppression of blacks, have long lobbied for the legalization of the drug that they say brings them closer to the divine.

There are an estimated 700,000 Rastafarians in the world, most of them among Jamaica's 2.6 million people.

Opinions?

I say legalize it and screw the US War on Drugs (It's a failure and waste of tax dollars)
 

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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...3/jamaica_marijuana_080203/20080303?hub=World



Whoa wait a minute right there..... last year the US claimed Canada was the largest hub for drugs bound to the US (Shortly afterwards Canadian officials who specialize in that department debunked their unfounded claims) ~ So how can one put faith in the above claim?

Who do you suppose has billions of dollars invested in the phamaceutical industry, the lumber industry, the textile industry, the paper industry, the alcohol industry, the cosmetics industry, the chemicals industry - and really HATES the thought of competition?


Opinions?

I say legalize it and screw the US War on Drugs (It's a failure and waste of tax dollars)

Fear for they who run afraid from such a friendly weed....

Woof
 

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I support legalization and not only in Jamaica. For Canada it would bring much more revenue in taxes and decrease spending on the war on drugs. It would also shrink prison population, new jobs would be created out of it as well.

It's a win/win situation. Btw, I am not a smoker, tried it couple of times and never enjoyed it.

Edit: Also it would be beneficial to legalize it asap, so when we have a stable production of the plant we would be one of the leading exporters along with Netherlands once other countries allow it.
 

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I see no reason to put a stop to marijuana use anywhere in this world. We allow harmful synthetic drugs to get people hooked, tobacco, alcohol etc. But make it illegal to use a harmless natural product like pot is really government stupidity at it's best.
 

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Jamaica can now exploit that reputation they have for the ganja, all inclusive smoke fests.... I would buy a week of that. :)
 

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My avatar shows better ganja than this oregano on the page.
I grew this as a project really in the hot sun, it got to be over six feet, and boy was it stinky.
 

Praxius

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My avatar shows better ganja than this oregano on the page.
I grew this as a project really in the hot sun, it got to be over six feet, and boy was it stinky.

Yeah actually when posting that image from the article my first thoughts were that it was Oregano.... or Cat Nip.... either way it didn't look like the stuff I'm used to..... meh *shrugs*

I see no reason to put a stop to marijuana use anywhere in this world. We allow harmful synthetic drugs to get people hooked, tobacco, alcohol etc. But make it illegal to use a harmless natural product like pot is really government stupidity at it's best.

Don't forget about the millions of perscriptions being unloaded on us everyday.... which apparently seem just fine to sell legally, despite all the side effects most come with.

Maybe the War on Drugs should be more about the War on Pharmaceutical Companies.

And wasn't it the CIA who actually made LSD so rampant back in the 60's? That worked well for the CIA.... hippies, cultural revolution and people who didn't listen to the system in which the CIA was a part of..... no wonder why they have the War on Drugs.... to keep the population from thinking outside of the box and to control easier.

A wise man once said "It's not a War on Drugs, it's a war on Personal Freedom, keep that in mind at all times."
 

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Did we come under any economic sanctions when it was de-criminalized?

I believe from memory that that was one of the threats from the US when we did it, also that they would toughen up the borders and make it harder for Canadians to enter..... then PM Jean chickened out and re-criminalized it a few days later.

Guess what? Canadians are still having a hell of a time entering the US due to 9/11 now..... so talk about a waste of time.
 

Praxius

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They do it all over the world, why do you Canada can/is immune to that?

Because We're Cool!

But I think the US has reached their extent of tollerance by the world.... it's time all the countries in the world flip the finger to Big Brother US and their dictating ways when it comes to telling us how to run our countries or else attitude.

And then I imagine I'll hear the phrase "Well the US puts so much money in your country and other's around the world and have helped soooo much that they should have a say in what happens."

And my response would simpily be that many other countries in the world help out one another and dish out money when it is needed.... yet I don't hear them on the same level as the US when it comes to telling those countries what to do with their internal matters.

I honestly don't see why all of us in the world have to take several steps backwards in progress to suit the US's desire for the War on Drugs which has been a complete failure since day one. The only thing it has done is to continually fuel and increase the illegal trade of the thing they are fighting.
 

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I think that war on drugs is to establish who controls the distribution. Basically the CIA types don't like competition. Free-lancers mess with their control. (like how much is distributed and for how much) Clinton chronicles covers this a bit.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6470450895164255089

These sites also have a bit of info that explores that same basic idea.
http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_drugsmoney.htm

http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/index.html?sort=15&search=drug&top_submit_search_button=Search
 

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Some countries need the criminalization mechanism to impose a class structure that they aren't supposed to talk about. Since you aren't suppose to mention class you also aren't supposed to do anything to rock the boat. "These people are criminals after all!"

Legalizing marijuana at this point in time comes with the added benefit of increased tourism in addition to tax revenue and the inclusion of black market funds into the legitimate economy. The economic sanctions would be like trying to stop a flood with a single sand bag.
 

Praxius

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Legalizing marijuana at this point in time comes with the added benefit of increased tourism in addition to tax revenue and the inclusion of black market funds into the legitimate economy. The economic sanctions would be like trying to stop a flood with a single sand bag.

True, which is why I never figured out why the hell it wasn't made legal to begin with.

Then again, once it became legal, I'd be growing my own to save money.... screw the taxes... I pay enough on smokes and beer as it is.

^ And there in lies the problem.... weed is too too easy to grow. If you can water a plant and stick it in the sun from time to time, you got weed. Of course if you want the high quality stuff that plants you on your arse for a couple of hours, then you need to get into the lighting and setup of some equipment.... but even that isn't that hard.

^ And a bounce back from that, not everybody will want to grow their own stuff, be that they suck at it, don't have time for it, or don't have the space, etc.... and will end up paying for someone else to grow it for them. Then you get a devide of those who are willing to pay taxes for a product that is regulated and they know what is in it, or deal some shaddy characters on the street for less, but more risk and unknowns. (Or a friend, which is always better)

^ But see, with that aspect, even though the government wouldn't get 100% of the taxes from legalizing it because of the above..... they'd still be getting money from people who do buy from them, like people do buying at the liqour store or smoke shop. Some is better then none. And if you legalize it, all those tax dollars which goes into enforcing these laws and throwing people in jail could go into other things.

It's a win win in my books no matter how you look at it.
 

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I'm sure more than a few would be willing to 'purchase a permit' that allowed for a person to grow a few for personal use. If you wanted to sell it you would need a business license, along with that comes income and expense reports. If you could sell $100,000 worth you should pay the same taxes as any other 'business venture.