It's Time to Upgrade Free Speech to Fair Speech

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Race doesn't have to be exclusively based on aesthetic.

Many people assume that only because it's the most obvious distinction.

But you can actually think of different cultures as individual races as well.
 

Vbeacher

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I believe in open borders, and one could interpret any opposition to open borders except maybe for the most legitimate security reasons as being motivated by nationalism or discrimination on the basis of nationality, and some understand discrimination on the basis of nationality to be as illegitimate as discrimination on the basis of age, race, sex, language, religion, etc.

So, should we ban all expressions of opposition to open borders as hate speech?

I generally find those who believe in 'open borders' don't pay taxes. Of those who do pay taxes, they usually accompany their support of open borders with an added belief that the welfare state should be eliminated so it's every man for himself.

Being a taxpayer, and not believing in the elimination of all social services and support, I vehemently oppose open borders, as well as immigration without very, very careful screening.

Of course.

But let's not assume that legislation truly represents everyone's values.

That's why a 'Canadian Values' test is a disingenuous moniker.

That's a nonsensical meme of the Left, that Canada has no values which can be agreed upon.
Here'a universal value: We don't cut off little girls clitorises. Here's another. We don't imprison or kill gay people. Nor do we require our females to walk behind us on the sidewalk nor cover their faces so as to not incite lust in men. Nor do we accept that atheists should die, nor apostates, and we're just fine with mocking religious figures, including Muhammad and Jesus. If you can't accept all that, we don't want you in this country.
 

Jinentonix

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Race doesn't have to be exclusively based on aesthetic.

Many people assume that only because it's the most obvious distinction.

But you can actually think of different cultures as individual races as well.
Bullshit. You're saying that Muslims are a separate race from the rest of the Arabs and Persians in the area? How about all those Asian Muslims in South Asia and Australasia? How about the White Muslims in Albania?
Are White, American Christians a different race than non-Christian, White Americans? How about Black Christians vs non-Christian Blacks. Are they different races too?

Just f*ck off with your revisionist bullshit already. Nobody is buying your crap except the grossly ignorant.
 

White_Unifier

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I generally find those who believe in 'open borders' don't pay taxes. Of those who do pay taxes, they usually accompany their support of open borders with an added belief that the welfare state should be eliminated so it's every man for himself.

Being a taxpayer, and not believing in the elimination of all social services and support, I vehemently oppose open borders, as well as immigration without very, very careful screening.

Or it's motivated by the religious belief that there is only one human race.
 

MHz

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Good Lord!
I can assure you that should the goo Lord come soon that you would be found lacking and the term 'lord' coming out of you does not apply to Jesus or to GOD so one has to ask who is your 'lord' when your posts are taken into consideration. That leaves the OT God as viewed by the Jews that God had removed from the Promised Land as they started killing Prophets sent to them by Almighty God. Stephen was a Christian killed by the some ones who control Judaism this very day. The only other option is your Lord is Satan himself and you do the bidding of his minions. (take your time picking which one you follow as they are one and the same anyway)

Do you really want to fight shoulder-to-shoulder beside Mentalfloss?
Probably mind against mind but then what good does it do pointing things out to you?

Have you had a frontal lobotomy?
By somebody using a shoulder against him?? More like it is your brain that is no longer functioning in a clear and rational manner.

BTW, for the 10,000th time, ISLAM IS NOT A RACE
It is when you specify the Muslims with a darker brown skin than yours. Both kinds of Indians are races as is anybody whose physical body had traits. A religion can attract many people from different races. Converts to Christianity or Muslim are allowed. A man converting to Judaism has to serve as a 'slave' first as it is still being run as an OT based religion except for the punishment against sin, nobody is killed. That is saved for Gentiles who break some law or offends them somehow
And I do not hate Muslims, I hate the religious/political ideology that is Islam.

Yes, yes you do and you take every opportunity to point out flaws in their religion while devoting zero time to the other 2 religions that pray to the same exact God. You are hate fulled even down to denying it before anybody has accused you of being a racist and a bigot.

That ideology is very close to Naziism........except the Nazis treat women better.
Really??
That mean you are lying when you claim 6M Jewish women and kids and 5M Gentile women and kids were murdered by said Nazis??
Looks like you need some education on the Holocaust as it pertains to Gentiles as you already have the stats claimed by said Jews.

I just about spewed my pop out in laughter over that one. :lol: Man, where did you get this Mary Poppins perspective from anyway?
Old Testament as taught by an outdated Rabbi.
 

White_Unifier

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I just about spewed my pop out in laughter over that one. :lol: Man, where did you get this Mary Poppins perspective from anyway?

Maybe the Sermon on the Mount, the story of the Good Samaritan, and other such texts have influenced my beliefs.
 

MHz

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Or it's motivated by the religious belief that there is only one human race.
One race with how many divisions? The ones with the money to do things tend to want two classes, Kings and surfs and Priests and the flock. The Bible's version has both of being 'sons of God' so that is how they are equal. Having the Jews act as Kings and Rabbis to the Gentiles is setting up a division where none should be.

M't:9:36:
But when he saw the multitudes,
he was moved with compassion on them,
because they fainted,
and were scattered abroad,
as sheep having no shepherd.

Joh:10:16:
And other sheep I have,
which are not of this fold:

them also I must bring,
and they shall hear my voice;
and there shall be one fold,
and one shepherd.

Only in the OT version can a Jew own a Gentile. Christians came into belief in God by the words written by Jews so we are their children, wayward but still brothers and not slaves like it is claimed Muslims are.

Maybe the Sermon on the Mount, the story of the Good Samaritan, and other such texts have influenced my beliefs.
How about the woman at the well story. Jesus taught their whole village for a weekend before He started preaching to the Jews. John was not yet in prison is the reason, btw.

As a Christian do you agree that all Gentile food was made clean for the Jews in Acts:10??
 

Vbeacher

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Or it's motivated by the religious belief that there is only one human race.

That's nice. So what? The human race is divided up pretty sharply between culturally and socially advanced, educated and technologically skilled westerners, and the rest. Most of whom are none of that, and almost none of whom live in countries which can even remotely be described as wealthy. You cannot have open immigration with a welfare state. Why would anyone work grubbing a living in some crappy third world country when life on welfare here would be so much better?

And if you think all those Muslims living in crappy countries would flock here for the welfare and then be content with whores, Jews and sodomites parading around in the streets you're really painfully naïve. They'd soon be voting in Sharia law.
 

White_Unifier

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That's nice. So what? The human race is divided up pretty sharply between culturally and socially advanced, educated and technologically skilled westerners, and the rest. Most of whom are none of that, and almost none of whom live in countries which can even remotely be described as wealthy. You cannot have open immigration with a welfare state. Why would anyone work grubbing a living in some crappy third world country when life on welfare here would be so much better?

And if you think all those Muslims living in crappy countries would flock here for the welfare and then be content with whores, Jews and sodomites parading around in the streets you're really painfully naïve. They'd soon be voting in Sharia law.

Who said I supported the present welfare state? A 20% wealth tax, 100% charity deductible at a 1:1 ratio would suffice. That's all the poor would get, so we'd have to stretch it thinly. That would not make Canada particularly attractive to people who could not support themselves. Beyond that, many rich people would probably voluntarily give even more than that. Where in the Gospel does Jesus teach making an idol of wealth?

One race with how many divisions? The ones with the money to do things tend to want two classes, Kings and surfs and Priests and the flock. The Bible's version has both of being 'sons of God' so that is how they are equal. Having the Jews act as Kings and Rabbis to the Gentiles is setting up a division where none should be.

M't:9:36:
But when he saw the multitudes,
he was moved with compassion on them,
because they fainted,
and were scattered abroad,
as sheep having no shepherd.

Joh:10:16:
And other sheep I have,
which are not of this fold:

them also I must bring,
and they shall hear my voice;
and there shall be one fold,
and one shepherd.

Only in the OT version can a Jew own a Gentile. Christians came into belief in God by the words written by Jews so we are their children, wayward but still brothers and not slaves like it is claimed Muslims are.


How about the woman at the well story. Jesus taught their whole village for a weekend before He started preaching to the Jews. John was not yet in prison is the reason, btw.

As a Christian do you agree that all Gentile food was made clean for the Jews in Acts:10??

I don't profess the Christian Faith, though I do believe in the Gospel as the word of God.
 

Bar Sinister

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Good Lord!

Do you really want to fight shoulder-to-shoulder beside Mentalfloss?

Have you had a frontal lobotomy?

BTW, for the 10,000th time, ISLAM IS NOT A RACE

And I do not hate Muslims, I hate the religious/political ideology that is Islam.

That ideology is very close to Naziism........except the Nazis treat women better.

But I believe that Semites are, so...